UK unemployment hits 14-year high.

[Matt]

The number of people unemployed in Britain has hit a 14-year high, official data showed on Wednesday, as the Bank of England forecast only a slow recovery for the recession-hit British economy.

British unemployment climbed by 220,000 to 2.43 million people in the three months to June -- the highest level since September 1995.

The unemployment rate rose to 7.8 percent in the three months to June, hitting a 13-year peak, according to official data

<_< Wasn't going to post this, of fear of opening another can'o'worms, having another argument/big massive discussion, going round in circles with the discussion again, however without wanting to start any of that and I have no facts and figures but I have to question and bring the subject up again - How many 'foreigners' were here 14 years ago? How many of them had jobs and lived in England? I would imagine it would be alot less than now, it would be nice to see a case study and get some facts and figures on it.

[MC Prussian]

Given the current economic situation, this is hardly a surprise. But when you think of it, a new high after 14 years is not that bad when the global economy is/has been in its worst state in 70 (?) years.

You also have to consider the fact that unemployment rates and the publication thereof always lag behind by months, so they're an indicator of times already past - or put another way, the economy's already progressed past that low point (and is already on the rise, if you believe the current trends).

[davieG]

<_< Wasn't going to post this, of fear of opening another can'o'worms, having another argument/big massive discussion, going round in circles with the discussion again, however without wanting to start any of that and I have no facts and figures but I have to question and bring the subject up again - How many 'foreigners' were here 14 years ago? How many of them had jobs and lived in England? I would imagine it would be alot less than now, it would be nice to see a case study and get some facts and figures on it.

So not wanting to open a can of worms you then decided to do so in the next sentence because simply knowing the facts about immigration doesn't tell the full story.

[Matt]

So not wanting to open a can of worms you then decided to do so in the next sentence because simply knowing the facts about immigration doesn't tell the full story.

Not really, just a query, question and fact I would like to find out, it wouldn't answer all the questions, after all this is a worldwide recession, every country in the world is in money trouble causing redundancies and unemployment, e.t.c so that has alot to do with unemployment reaching a high, so to blame it on the influx over the last 14 years of those pesky foreigners would be very unfair on them, but just to compare and contrast.

[MC Prussian]

Not really, just a query, question and fact I would like to find out, it wouldn't answer all the questions, after all this is a worldwide recession, every country in the world is in money trouble causing redundancies and unemployment, e.t.c so that has alot to do with unemployment reaching a high, so to blame it on the influx over the last 14 years of those pesky foreigners would be very unfair on them, but just to compare and contrast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England

The population in the UK hasn't really risen THAT much - by 3 million between 1991 and 2005 (and I guess the rise will be about the same between 1995 and 2009).

White British are still the predominant majority with close to 85 percent of the total population.

So, in terms of "foreigner hunt" , make of that what you want.

[purpleronnie]

Same everywhere though, it will get better eventually, I remember leaving school with unemployment at 3 million.

[Fox92]

Got a job two weeks ago at Sainsburys and its a good thing too, I regard my self quite lucky to now have one.

Used to sit there at home when not a college and think I need to get a job but then think there isn't none so what can I do and what can you do

The unemployment is sad and at a very poor figure but as the country has no money (apparently) this is going to happen but it should get better...

Living in a town, there arn't many shops and businesses, well the big ones include the likes of B&Q, Tesco, Sainsburys, and Comet but there isn't much. Not sure about where most of you live, obvisouley most of you live in Leicester and as it is big there must be a lot of organizations there (I only see abit of the City when going to watch Leicester) but seeing as the country is in a poor state there is most probably no employment opportunities which is quite bad and sad.

Still, always look on the bright side because this will get better as the country expands and recovers from this 'credit crunch'. Hopefully.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I cannot understand why a couple of people already, appear to have taken offence at Matt's question, which was perfectly harmless and sincere?

It would seem that certain people are already trying to change the direction of the post, to we all know what. This is so sad.

It is extremely worrying that some experts are expecting the figure to possibly rise to over four million unemployed.

[Daggers]

The French and German economies both grew by 0.3% between April and June, bringing to an end year-long recessions in two of Europe's largest economies.

"The data is very surprising. After four negative quarters France is coming out of the red," said French Finance and Economy Minister Christine Lagarde.

Must be something to do with the increased levels of legal and illegal immigrants in those countries then, using Matt's logic.

[Munzie]

I'm now set to increase the overall figure by one I'm being made redundant two days before my birthday!

[Daggers]

I'm now set to increase the overall figure by one I'm being made redundant two days before my birthday!

Maaate - sorry to hear it.

[Dr The Singh]

I'm now set to increase the overall figure by one I'm being made redundant two days before my birthday!

That's really shit news, you've not been lucky on the job front buddy, have you!!

[Guest]

I'm now set to increase the overall figure by one I'm being made redundant two days before my birthday!

I hope that you aren't out of work too long.

[Tommy G]

Got a job two weeks ago at Sainsburys and its a good thing too, I regard my self quite lucky to now have one.

Used to sit there at home when not a college and think I need to get a job but then think there isn't none so what can I do and what can you do

The unemployment is sad and at a very poor figure but as the country has no money (apparently) this is going to happen but it should get better...

Living in a town, there arn't many shops and businesses, well the big ones include the likes of B&Q, Tesco, Sainsburys, and Comet but there isn't much. Not sure about where most of you live, obvisouley most of you live in Leicester and as it is big there must be a lot of organizations there (I only see abit of the City when going to watch Leicester) but seeing as the country is in a poor state there is most probably no employment opportunities which is quite bad and sad.

Still, always look on the bright side because this will get better as the country expands and recovers from this 'credit crunch'. Hopefully.

Probably a better analysis by a 16/17 yr old of the unemployment and credit crunch issues than Mr Darling could offer!

[MC Prussian]

I'm now set to increase the overall figure by one I'm being made redundant two days before my birthday!

And I had to quit mine a few days ago.

Luckily enough, I'm not increasing the UK figure.

[Flynny]

Probably a better analysis by a 16/17 yr old of the unemployment and credit crunch issues than Mr Darling could offer!

Probably not but I take your point. Hopefully optimism will be back on an upward curve now.

On the other hand social problems caused by recession lag behind a bit so we should be enjoying an increasing crime rate very soon. Hooray.

[Jon the Hat]

Fear has driven a lot of the slowdown in consumer spending. As much as less credit has in my opinion, aside from big things like cars and homes, most people still do not actually need to use credit for their spending. People have been nerviously saving money and overpaying on their mortgages out of fear. As this recedes things will pick up. And also the companies who are taking advantage of the downturn to cut jobs will soon be done.

[ob1kanobe0]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England

The population in the UK hasn't really risen THAT much - by 3 million between 1991 and 2005 (and I guess the rise will be about the same between 1995 and 2009).

White British are still the predominant majority with close to 85 percent of the total population.

So, in terms of "foreigner hunt" , make of that what you want.

Goes down around 2.3% every 4 years, so it'd be 82.4% now, minus of course the illegals and asylum seekers, could be 4 in 5.

In 2001/02, white people were far less likely to be unemployed than any other racial group of people http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=271 New Labour have tried very hard over the years to get non whites into jobs ahead of whites, so its likely that will have changed slightly.

Interestingly, women percentagely tended to gain employment alot more than men, and now women are thought of for job recognition over men.

btw, using wikipedia isn't the best source for factual information. There are alot of lies on that site.

[Koke]

I expect 15+ pages before the Ipswich game.

[Uncle Monty]

WooHoo!

[Thracian]

a) Given the current economic situation, this is hardly a surprise. But when you think of it, a new high after 14 years is not that bad when the global economy is/has been in its worst state in 70 (?) years.

b) You also have to consider the fact that unemployment rates and the publication thereof always lag behind by months, so they're an indicator of times already past - or put another way, the economy's already progressed past that low point (and is already on the rise, if you believe the current trends).

a) Try telling that to the 2.4 million and the next million who are likely to join them - a huge number of whom are young Brits who should be at making their way in life but who are in fact feeling totally let down and frustrated.

b) The prediction two days ago was that unemployment would continue to climb for the next year or so at least.

I've seen very few genuine signs of encouragement for the economic future. Morrisons and one or two other supermarkets may find a few thousand jobs for youngsters which is encouraging if enough of those jobs go to members of the indigenous population.

And Portmeirion, profitable even in the midst of the recession, have taken over the Royal Worcester and Spode brand names and declared that at least some of the production will be clawed back from the Far East and returned to England.

Otherwise though, I see the public having to pick up ridiculous bills to pay for Labour's wacky philosophies, their economic irresponsibility and ever-increasing welfare provision, and having little or nothing left over to ensure the health of manufacturers, retailers and service providers.

Day by day you see more "for sale" or "for let" signs on the High Streets as retailers and auxiliary businesses find it impossible to cope with unrealistic rents, a diminishing footfall, customers' empty purses and increasing problems of access to in-town premises.

Where is the groundwork being provided to kick-start the cycle of earning and spending?

Where are the electrical charging points needed to keep the new fleets of electric vehicles on the move? Why is our nation's construction industry on its knees when the need for housing a fast-nearing 70m population is so pressing?

Why is there no major theme park in the South Midlands and why is Britain's tourist industry feeling so sorry for itself?

While the dole queues grow like the tendrils of rampant triffids the reaction of those responsible is to relax for weeks on end with the Prime Minister reportedly being hidden from view for political safety's while Mandy, of the Soft Shoe Shuffle, works on a new production of the Grand Illusion.

Not that bad?

You sound like the sort who'd find toothache orgasmic.

[Guest]

[MC Prussian]

You sound like the sort who'd find toothache orgasmic.

I like the sensation, but I find your comparison a little bit far-fetched and ill-constructed.

You tell me what theme parks and the current economic climate have in common.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Btw, I'm currently unemployed myself, so I guess that should finally kick-start my drinking career and I ought to consider becoming a burglar because my future's so bleak. Right.

And like I said, unemployment rates and the publication thereof always lag behind the current economic trend by months.

Do I have to repeat myself a second time?

[lou]

I like the sensation, but I find your comparison a little bit far-fetched and ill-constructed.

You tell me what theme parks and the current economic climate have in common.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Btw, I'm currently unemployed myself, so I guess that should finally kick-start my drinking career and I ought to consider becoming a burglar because my future's so bleak. Right.

And like I said, unemployment rates and the publication thereof always lag behind the current economic trend by months.

Do I have to repeat myself a second time?

It doesnt matter about you being unemployed apparently as youre not part of the "indigenous population" or a "Brit"

Thats a point youre a foreigner so you must be a criminal anyway

[Saladin]

I graduated a month back and have been applying for at least 2 jobs a day ever since, still nothing . It's not just me, all of my mates from uni are experiencing the same problem. Just can't see no end in sight, it's bloody depressing!