Guest Posted 6 September 2009 Posted 6 September 2009 It is everything. It's not, but it's damn close
Thracian Posted 6 September 2009 Posted 6 September 2009 Jehovah's Witnesses, like all religious zealots, have much to answer for. There is no special merit in "being ordinary" though the Marxists seem hellbent on us all being ordinary, or in abandoning what I'm sure Knowles would describe as God-given talents. If everyone were persuaded down that road there would no motivation and no achievements. Amputees would be without their man-made limbs, children would be dying of afflictions they can survive today thanks to people inventing remedies and we'd still be tilling land with the plough which would be disastrous given how much good the world needs to produce. As for preaching no-one has the right to direct the life course of another. Offer them access to knowledge by all means and help them find answers to their enquiries. But to seek power over people's minds is shameful and by definition done only for selfish reasons or reasons of often illogically blind faith and ignorance. What man can stand arrogant enough to believe they know the answers even concerning this life let alone any other? Knowles says he was a flawed individual as a footballer. Who's to say he's not just as flawed now. And what was to stop him becoming a better footballing person anyway? Footballers don't have to be arrogant or dismissive of others. I don't blame him for quiting football if that was really his own choice rather than the consequence of having his mind turned by trained and clever manipulators. But to imagine that decision somehow gave him the right to try and influence others? Very debateable. And I wonder how he'll feel if he ever gets proof that he's wrong. Or any other "preachers" for that matter.
Raj Posted 7 September 2009 Author Posted 7 September 2009 Raj, that kid has ****ed you up! :thumbsup: You told me you'd missed 6 games..... At the minute, football's quite important to me. I love going to watch City play. As soon as the final whistle goes, I'm already thinking about the next match. I get to see a lot of people who I don't get to see that often and just have a good time, regardless of the result. Weekends were made for Football and without going to watch City, or see the lady, the weekends are extremely dull. Maybe in a few years time the outlook will change, there'll be different things going on, and I'll have more responsibilities in my life which would probably make it harder for me to get to games. I can't stand it when I'm not there right now, because at this stage in my life, I know I could be at every game and in a few years time, that may not be the case, but I'm ready for that because I know the change will happen, but the good thing is, that it's just not yet. In 10 years time, if the same question was asked, after having certain other things done in my life, football will probably not be the top of my priority list. Interesting Stuff Robert. Peter Knowles - The guy who packed up football at 23 when he got religious. Never heard of the bloke but good read and story!
AyewJoking Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 I've become synical about football as I've got older and wont throw money at it like I used to do. The highs and lows and general passion of the game are still strong for me but I can enjoy the highs and anticipation and not be devestated when it all goes wrong!
Granno Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 You told me you'd missed 6 games..... I blame education or inter-breeding. You'll never know
Guest Bilo Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 I have to say I hate missing games, but uni is the most important thing to me at the moment for the simple reason that a good degree will help me to get the career that pays well enough to go to plenty of City games in the future. LCFC certainly influenced me in my choice of university, and has influenced my decision to remain in Leicester post-graduation. As others have said, when you're young, single and childless it's difficult to see what else you're going to spend your time and money on. I'd much rather be at Vicarage Road or Home Park cheering on my team than just going round the shops looking for something to do on a Saturday. It does become something of an addiction, as whenever you aren't at a game all you can do is listen to it on the radio or keep checking for the result on Teletext, which drove my colleagues nuts in August! Of course, the whole experience is all the more enjoyable when you have friends to go to the match with, something this forum has helped me with immensely. I've met some great people from here and know I will continue to do so throughout the season. The camaraderie experienced in football is a major part of its appeal for me. You meet people from all walks of life who may have nothing in common apart from City, but that's all you need to make friends with them or at the very least start a conversation. I honestly can't think of anything else in life that gives you that opportunity. Life without football would be more than a little dull frankly, and I have no idea what I'd be doing or where I'd be without it.
Granno Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 You meet people from all walks of life who may have nothing in common apart from City, but that's all you need to make friends with them or at the very least start a conversation. I honestly can't think of anything else in life that gives you that opportunity. Life without football would be more than a little dull frankly, and I have no idea what I'd be doing or where I'd be without it.
Dr The Singh Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 it's a big part of my life, anything that takes time away from the family etc must be important!!
CosbehFox Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 Personally I am giving it a reet good go when I am young and have little responsibilities. They will no doubt come a time when I've had enough and lose such a major interest.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 Football is probably everything to me! If City arent playing at the weekend due to Sky or whatever, I get really pissed off and have to see another game to try and make up for it. I get really pissed off with international breaks too as I feel when City dont play it kind of spoils the weekend! And summer is the worst! Do nothing all day but watch SSN to see if we have signed a player! I cant wait for the Blackpool game.
hairy Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 Raj does this mean you will be going to A & A's house warming on Saturday rather than the match?
The Doctor Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 Football is probably everything to me! If City arent playing at the weekend due to Sky or whatever, I get really pissed off and have to see another game to try and make up for it.I get really pissed off with international breaks too as I feel when City dont play it kind of spoils the weekend! And summer is the worst! Do nothing all day but watch SSN to see if we have signed a player! I cant wait for the Blackpool game. 'snot even as if many championship players bar the ones from the three relegated clubs that haven't jumped ship get called up for their nations. should be like in league 1 last year where unless there were more than a certain number of players away on international duty the game should go ahead as planned. that way you'll have less evening games so more people can make it to the majority of the matches.
Durnerz Posted 7 September 2009 Posted 7 September 2009 Football has always been a massive part of my life, always giving me something to look forward to and bringing out and touching all the emotions inside me, some of which I never knew I possessed (sp?). Now i'm an addict, I go looking for it everywhere and although ive had to concentrate on my job a lot in the last couple of years to make a living and a career football has never been far away, i'm going abroad to sample the scenes and I feel that stepping back from the commitment of going to city every week has made me love and appreciate football more as a whole.
Raj Posted 8 September 2009 Author Posted 8 September 2009 Raj does this mean you will be going to A & A's house warming on Saturday rather than the match? Was going to ask you that!! I may pop in before the game!!!(orafter if its still going on!) Cya there!!!(and say Hello this time!)
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 The other Football (AFL) plays an important part in my life, mainly cos i have that many mates that follow football and talk football. A few of my closest mates support the same team so it is great to go and we always make a day/night of it. An outlet away from work and a reason to have fun and a laugh. Pretty similar to Melbourne Victory i guess but AFL is my first sporting laugh and supporting the leagues most unsuccseful laugh stock of the comp this season has been great and we are now a win away from a grand final berth. where we have only been 6 times in 113 years and we have won the comp once in that time compared to 27 wooden spoons. So atm it is playing a huge part in my life as we have been the dominant team this year all you read about is can we do it, so u are constently reading, watching and thinking about footy. It is all i can think about starved of success and a few good years were we have choked all you can think about "is this finally our year" I guess only someone who has been to Melbourne and realized how big AFL is over here and how the importance of how well your team going well can effect your mood and give you bragging rights.
Asha Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 But to imagine that decision somehow gave him the right to try and influence others? Very debateable. Not speaking for other faiths, as I'm not certain on their beliefs, but a main part of the christian faith is the need to tell others. It's in the bible thousands of times that we (believers) need to evangalise. I don't know if you believe in an 'afterlife' or not, but it says in the bible that only those who believe in God can get into heaven. Which would mean our loved ones, and even those who do amazing acts of charity all their lives, that don't believe, wouldn't. As a believer, it's hard to imagine such people perishing simply for the reason that they don't believe. Because of this, a lot of believers give their lives to telling others: Jehovah's witnesses. Why does the decision to become one make him think he's got the right to try and 'influence' others? Because it's what he believes. It might sound a little strange from an atheists perspective, but he's trying to save as many people as possible. Those who come church regularly and hear the word of God every week have already been saved. And even though most people will despise receiving a visit from the Jehovah's witnesses, because of that very small percentage of people who may have a question, or be curious about something, it'll be worth doing from their point of view.
ozleicester Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Like the grass mentioned earlier, football (and i hope LCFC) was here before i walked the earth and will be around long after i have gone. It is part of my genes and part of society and teaches much. Here i am at some ridiculous age hobbling because of a twisted ankle from playing 5- Aside last night, and at midnight on Saturday i will be sitting at my computer, banging my hands on the desk with despair or delight purely based on what 11 men 12,000 miles away are doing. I have been playing, watching, listening to football since i was 5 years old, ive met best friends playing, had fights playing, met the love of my life in the club after a game, wtached every world cup on TV with my daughter since she was born. Football isnt life and death, its much more important than that.
Raj Posted 8 September 2009 Author Posted 8 September 2009 Like the grass mentioned earlier, football (and i hope LCFC) was here before i walked the earth and will be around long after i have gone. It is part of my genes and part of society and teaches much.Here i am at some ridiculous age hobbling because of a twisted ankle from playing 5- Aside last night, and at midnight on Saturday i will be sitting at my computer, banging my hands on the desk with despair or delight purely based on what 11 men 12,000 miles away are doing. I have been playing, watching, listening to football since i was 5 years old, ive met best friends playing, had fights playing, met the love of my life in the club after a game, wtached every world cup on TV with my daughter since she was born. Football isnt life and death, its much more important than that. Believe me,it's nowhere near as important as life and death.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Believe me,it's nowhere near as important as life and death. WOW!!!!!!! After over 9,000 posts you appear to have made a sensible post
Raj Posted 8 September 2009 Author Posted 8 September 2009 WOW!!!!!!!After over 9,000 posts you appear to have made a sensible post Same again at 18,000 then if im still around!!!
deep blue Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Can't see the link between "becomes a Jehovah's Witness" and "has to give up professional footy" - but don't get me started on that! I started joining in with classmates playing footy on way home from school, aged about 7, and first went to Filbo at about 9. Into other sports too at about the same age. Got absolutely bitten. At 63 I still play footy, and other sports, and am still an avid City fan, even though I moved away from the area when I was 20. It's just something that's either deep in you, or not at all. I can't see my enthusiasm for sport, footy esp, and LCFC ever being diminished. (Have to agree with someone earlier though, the whole scene gets more anodyne with every passing year - would love to see a City side stocked with ex-academy players, taking us up to the heights of the Prem). BTW Love Thracian's accounts of the academy matches and players. Keep 'em coming.
Simi Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Football used to be a lot more important to me, seems strange saying that when I'm 18! I've met a lot of very good friends from going to watch City, but I don't enjoy it like I used to a couple of years ago. Gave up having a Season Ticket this year and to be honest I don't really miss it one bit, I thought I would though. I still enjoy going to the away games, but only the ones where I know there will be good craic because of the people that are going. Until a lot of things change in football I can't see myself going to every game again like I have done for the previous two years.
Fosse Boy Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Not quite as important as cricket, but a very close second.
Samilktray Posted 8 September 2009 Posted 8 September 2009 Bores me now. Main thing I was interested in was England, and now I'm not even bothered by that.
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