Bert Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 - Had nothing to do, decent distribution. Morrison 7 - Solid as you like, put some decent balls into the box. Bruno 6 - Gone off the boil a little bit, but still did ok. Brown 7 - Always in command and his passing was so much better than it has been all season today. Hobbs 6 - His mistake at the end could've cost us, but he redeemed himself with a great tackle, good in the air. Oakley 5 - Bar a few decent bits of play, failed to show up. Dyer 6 - Looked dangerous before he went off. Wellens 6 - Not the Wellens we seen at the start of the season, needs to stop moaning. King 7 - Was awesome first half, but faded a bit after the break. Howard 6 - Won lots in the air, has a great touch, but huffed and puffed his way through. Fryatt 7 - Worked hard, tracked down well, one sublime run in the first half. Waghorn 5 - Offered little. Kermorgant 6 - Glimpses of class, one brilliant cross field ball. They clearly came for a point, and even in a pretty dull affair with only one clear chance for each team, we still should've won. It seems both teams seemed happy with a point with 15 minutes to go. Still, looking on the bright side, a clean sheet and it's another game where we've not lost.
C-man Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 6 - Not a lot needed, kicking was good. Morrison - 7 - Worked well down the right, found himself in acres a lot of the time, pity about the final ball. Defensively sound. Berner - 7 - Good game against a decent player in Lee Croft. Reads the game terrifically. Brown - 7 - Solid. Passing was 100% better. Hobbs - 6 - Decent game, not really troubled until the almost-fatal error at the end. Good recovery, mind. Oakley - 4 - Please look after the ball better, Matt. Dyer - 7 - Looks to have found a bit of confidence, I like how he attacked Derby today. Wellens - 5 - Drifted in and out of the game, definitely not at his best. King - 3 - Anonymous. (Best he's played all season - 8) Howard - 6 - Should have been replaced towards the end, but didn't play too badly. Fryatt - 6 - Marshalled well by the Derby defence. Waghorn - 5 - Poor first touch, but makes room for himself quite well. Kermorgant - 6 - Didn't see why he was brought on and it really had a detrimental effect on our shape.
Ozwin Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 - Bugger all to do. Morrison 7 - So much better than Nielson, has a good cross and looked like he could take his man on. Bruno 6.5 - Not a lot to do really, made some good tackles/interceptions Brown 7 - Agree with the comment about his distribution, it's like he's reviewed himself and sorted his hoofiness out. Hobbs 7 - Had Rob Hulse in his pocket all game, shat me up at the end, I thought he brought the player down in the box but it was actually a great tackle. Oakley 6 - Tried to make an impact against his former side but never really got going. Dyer 6.5 - Made a few dcent runs but NEEDS to get on the wing, seriously he's inside far too much for a 'winger' Wellens 6 - Like Oakley tried to make an impact but he was lacking ideas and didn't have much going on in front of him tbf. King 7.5 MOTM- His best game of the season, made some great tackles and took pressure off players around him with simple passes. Could have got his goal as well which would've been nice. Howard 6 - First Half - Won everything, Second Half - Barely won a thing. Fryatt 6.5 - Not bad, looks to have gained a bit of pace from what I've seen. He chased balls down and actually got close which didn't happen before. Waghorn 5 - Barely touched the ball, made a nice run with the ball near the end which didn't amount to much. Kermorgant 6 - There's definately something about him that makes me think he's going to be class for us, but he didn't have too much time to make a difference. Wasn't he played in midfield as well? Strange one.
Jimmy Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 sod all to do Morrison 7 Hobbs 6 Brown 6 Berner 7 Oakley 4 if you're not gunna stay wide or impose yourself through the middle kindly sod off King 7 Wellens 6 Dyer 5 Howard 6 Fryatt 7 Waghorn 5 Kermit 5 Pearson 4 poor tactics Oakley wide right won't work at this level, poor decision to take Dyer off for Kermit we lost and width we had and never looked like scoring after
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 Morrison 6 Bruno 6.5 Brown 7 Hobbs 6 Oakley 6 Dyer 7.5 Wellens 6.5 King 3 - Didn't know he was playing, I either need to be more observant or King needs to get more involved. Howard 7 Fryatt 6.5 Subs: Waghorn 6 Kermorgant 6
CosbehFox Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 King was super today. As was Hobbs until his mistake. Howard fine first half but he was marked out of the game. Fryatt didn't get the right service, he should have been given the ball at feet against donkey Buxton. Dyer did well too. Wellens and Oakley disappointing. Pearson can we actually starting playing the one winger for us who can cross a ball ie. Adams. That is all.
Thracian Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6.5 (May well have got a vital touch to turn Savage's free-kick onto a post. Otherwise, apart from a shaky throw-out at the start he earned what must have seemed like the easiest pay packet of his life). Morrison 6 (Defensively solid enough without being greatly pressured but City's trying to utilise him as a makeshift winger was so naive as to be almost laughable. His pre-match comments about a clean sheet didn't impress me at all. You win nothing for keeping clean sheets. You win things by scoring goals and everyone needs to contribute to that end. It's not an optional extra.). Bruno 6 (Defended well early on but didn't look nearly so solid second half when Derby finally stirred themselves with at least one cross from his station very nearly leading to a goal). Brown 6.5 (Okay in what was rarely testing circumstances). Hobbs 6 (I'd refer you to Bert's comment which mirrored my view). Oakley 5 (Had a goal disallowed after a move involving King and Howard but had little impact otherwise).. Dyer 6.5 (Had several threatening runs but either failed to shoot early enough or mishit the ball). Wellens 6 (Played deeper than King for much of the game and was so clumsy at times gifting possession to Derby on several occasions when simply trying to do too much or make something out of nothing. Ironic really after he stood and moaned at a team-mate about a misdirected pass (the first time I've seen anyone in the team do it this season). King 7 (Might have shaded man-of-a-poor-match for a near flawless first half. Close to scoring with a curling shot which hit the goal stanchion and then delivered the deft cross to Howard which led to Oakley putting the ball in the net for a "disallowed" goal after the break. Found it much harder second half when Derby risked pushing up more and when we seemed to have ever fewer players looking for the ball). Howard 6 (Should have scored with one headed chance on the far post but was mostly well contained. In fact that header apart, he never threatened to score and I was surprised Pearson didn't take him off and allow DJ to try to disrupt some clearly tiring defenders ) Fryatt 6 (Typical Fryatt on a non-scoring day. Early effort but faded quickly in the second half. The ease with which Leacock dealt with him only emphasised his limitations against decent defenders). Subs: Waghorn 5 (Looked what he always has apart from his goal at Coventry and very rare moments of sparkle - a blind alley merchant who doesn't get his head up enough. Pre-match warm up showed he has a devastating left-foot but there's much more to being an effective striker than that and comparisons to Rooney are ridiculous). Kermorgant 5 (He might have a touch or two but they're not needed miles from goal and he doesn't look quick enough or sharp enough to impress at Championship level - unless he's holding it all back!).
maddog Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 No one in the team even deserves a 7. I would say they were all 5s and 6s.
MPH Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 King 7.5 MOTM- His best game of the season, made some great tackles and took pressure off players around him with simple passes. Could have got his goal as well which would've been nice. King 3 - Didn't know he was playing, I either need to be more observant or King needs to get more involved.Subs: Waghorn 6 Kermorgant 6 King was super today. As was Hobbs until his mistake. That is all. How is that possible? i mean , really... how?
fatboy Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Kermorgant 5 (He might have a touch or two but they're not needed miles from goal and he doesn't look quick enough or sharp enough to impress at Championship level - unless he's holding it all back!). Probably because he was playing the left side of midfield of a diamond formation, and had defensive duties, he wasn't playing as a striker!!!! Weale 6.5 (May well have got a vital touch to turn Savage's free-kick onto a post. Otherwise, apart from a shaky throw-out at the start he earned what must have seemed like the easiest pay packet of his life). Morrison 6 (Defensively solid enough without being greatly pressured but City's trying to utilise him as a makeshift winger was so naive as to be almost laughable. His pre-match comments about a clean sheet didn't impress me at all. You win nothing for keeping clean sheets. You win things by scoring goals and everyone needs to contribute to that end. It's not an optional extra.). Bruno 6 (Defended well early on but didn't look nearly so solid second half when Derby finally stirred themselves with at least one cross from his station very nearly leading to a goal). Brown 6.5 (Okay in what was rarely testing circumstances). Hobbs 6 (I'd refer you to Bert's comment which mirrored my view). Oakley 5 (Had a goal disallowed after a move involving King and Howard but had little impact otherwise).. Dyer 6.5 (Had several threatening runs but either failed to shoot early enough or mishit the ball). Wellens 6 (Played deeper than King for much of the game and was so clumsy at times gifting possession to Derby on several occasions when simply trying to do too much or make something out of nothing. Ironic really after he stood and moaned at a team-mate about a misdirected pass (the first time I've seen anyone in the team do it this season). King 7 (Might have shaded man-of-a-poor-match for a near flawless first half and the deft cross to Howard which led to Oakley putting the ball in the net for a "disallowed" goal after the break. Found it much harder second half when Derby risked pushing up more and when we seemed to have ever fewer players looking for the ball). Howard 6 (Should have scored with one headed chance on the far post but was mostly well contained. In fact that header apart, he never threatened to score and I was surprised Pearson didn't take him off and allow DJ to try to disrupt some clearly tiring defenders ) Fryatt 6 (Typical Fryatt on a non-scoring day. Early effort but faded quickly in the second half. The ease with which Leacock dealt with him only emphasised his limitations against decent defenders). Subs: Waghorn 5 (Looked what he always has apart from his goal at Coventry and very rare moments of sparkle - a blind alley merchant who doesn't get his head up enough. Pre-match warm up showed he has a devastating left-foot but there's much more to being an effective striker than that and comparisons to Rooney are ridiculous). Kermorgant 5 (He might have a touch or two but they're not needed miles from goal and he doesn't look quick enough or sharp enough to impress at Championship level - unless he's holding it all back!).
Lichfieldfox. Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 - Intellegent distribution, nil to save Morrison 6 - Best player second half when we tried to go to a 3-5-2 Bruno 5 - Steady Brown 5 - Did everything he needed to Hobbs 6 - Apart from error at the end was very impressive Oakley 4 - Off the pace today, only play him centre MF please. Gallacher, Gradel and Adams better on right wing Dyer 6 - Did well first half but final delivery not good enough Wellens 5 - Good first half, less effective second. Gave ball away too much King 6.5 MOM for me. Simple passes took time on ball and helped defence directing them where to play the ball. Today for first time I saw qualities that will make him a future Captain Howard 5 - Huffed and puffed but not enough service from the channels Fryatt 5 - Struggled to get one over on Leacock Subs: Waghorn 5 - one good run, tried but made no impact Kermorgant 5 - out of postion, didn't understand the substitution. Pearson 5 - first half we should have sealed the game. Tried to change things as they packed the midfield second half but for me made the wrong subs Ref 7 - excellent game
Mikey Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 6 Morrison - 7 Hobbs - 8 Brown - 7 Berner - 7 Oakley - 6.5 Wellens - 6 King - 8 Dyer - 6.5 Howard - 6.5 Fryatt - 6 Subs: Yann - 6 Waggy - 6
clazkel Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 7 Morrison - 7 Hobbs - 7 Brown - 6.5 Berner - 7 Oakley - 7 King - 7 Wellens - 7 Dyer - 6.5 Howard - 7 Fryatt - 6.5 I thought for the first half we were the far better team and should've made the most of it and scored. I thought the whole team looked up for it, closed them down and didn't give them time. I'm not sure what Pearson said at half time but it didn't seem to inspire the players, they seemed deflated. I didn't think Dyer should've went off as he was the only width we had apart from Morrison who was isolated alot on the right. We lost our shape with bringing Kermagont on, why not stick with 4-4-2 and play Adams wide and bring Oakley back in the centre and take king or wellens off. Why can't Howard play behind Fryatt and Waghorn, as even though Fryatt didn't have his best game he did look like he was causing them afew problems. We need wingers who will take players on and put a decent ball in the box or dont play wingers and play Howard behind the front 2 and 3 midfielders
dandannieldanok Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 Morrison 7 (Admirable job covering the whole right flank, both defensively and offensively) Brown 7 (Won everything in the air, solid display) Hobbs 6 (Very nearly cost us but recovered, ok display) Berner 6 (Not bad, Dyer's anonymity didn't help his performance) Oakley 5 (Started really well but faded completely to the point where he continually lost the ball) Wellens 5 (I don't see what everyone sees in this guy, most of the time he passes blind, never worth £1m) King 6 (Best of a bad midfield bunch, solid and assured) Dyer 5 (Promising start, but then just drifted infield and left a gaping hole at left wing) Howard 5 (First half proved a real danger, second half just a moaning idiot) Fryatt 5 (Anonymous bar a few glimpses) Waghorn and Kermogant 4 (No improvement) The wrong starting line-up and the Kermogant substitution was baffling (left us with no wingers at all), a thoroughly disjointed formation.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 - Sod all to do. Morrison 7 - Solid as you like, good crossing by the lad. Bruno 7 - Not as good as he normally is going forward solid in defence though. Brown 7 - Probably his best game all season. Hobbs 7.5 - Marked Hulse out of the game for nearly the full 90 mins. Oakley 6 - Prefer him in the middle, but not a bad game. Dyer 6.5 - Looked dangerous but without the finish to the odd cross or shot. Wellens 6.5 - Few good balls over the top but has had better games. King 7.5 - Shades MOM for me, looked better and always came back to get the ball off the Derby midfield. Howard 6 - Not great but didnt have help from the knock downs. Fryatt 6 - Off game for me, didnt do much and doesnt seem to want to pass the ball to Dyer. Waghorn 5 - Didnt do much at all. Kermorgant 5 - In midfiled which was odd, did nothing wrong though.
davieG Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 Morrison 6 Bruno 6.5 Brown 7 Hobbs 6 Oakley 6 Dyer 7.5 Wellens 6.5 King 3 - Didn't know he was playing, I either need to be more observant or King needs to get more involved. Howard 7 Fryatt 6.5 Subs: Waghorn 6 Kermorgant 6 Or he could wear a long blonde wig, argue with the ref, dive for a penalty, contribute next to nothing to the game, behave like a complete knob, play for opposition and he will have his own thread people will be talking him for ages.
Father Ted Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale 6 Morrison 7 Hobbs 6 Brown 6 Berner 6 Oakley 5 Wellens 7 King 7.5 Dyer 6 Howard 6 Fryatt 6 Kingy and Wellens were fantastic but neither got forward enough. The defence had very little to do. Very impressed with Morrison. People are complaining about Fryatt - they are morons. With the service he will score and he didn't get the service today. Oakley was anonymous on the right. Derby were terrible. We should play 4-3-3/4-5-1 next match with Oakley, Wellens and Kingy playing the central 3 with Dyer and Waghorn playing as wingers in defence and strikers in attack with Fryatt the main striker.
milan_foxes Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale-5 Morrison-6 Hobbs-6.5 Brown-4 Berner-7 Wellens-5 Oakley-6 King-9 Dyer-7 Howard- 9 for first two mins, 6 for the rest. Fryatt-7.5 SUBS; Waghorn-6 Kermo-6.5
Thracian Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Kermorgant 5 (He might have a touch or two but they're not needed miles from goal and he doesn't look quick enough or sharp enough to impress at Championship level - unless he's holding it all back!).Probably because he was playing the left side of midfield of a diamond formation, and had defensive duties, he wasn't playing as a striker!!!! I'm well aware of that but it was goals and people in the box we needed.
Guest Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 No idea why King is getting such low ratings from some people, MOTM for me. Alright not a fantastic game, but thought we deserved a win more than the sheep. Proper ratings to come later
fatboy Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 I'm well aware of that but it was goals and people in the box we needed. That was obviosly Pearson's call, should have gone 4-3-3
lou Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 6 - Not his most testing days work Morrison - 6.5 - Didnt do a lot wrong. Berner - 7 - Played well against Croft and I dont miss Mattock one bit Brown - 7 - Solid defending just disappointed he didnt get a chance to crock Savage Hobbs - 6.5 One bad mistake but good apart from that Oakley - 5 not one of his better days Dyer - 7 - Back to his best today, took it to them Wellens - 6.5 Did ok but not as well as he can King - 7.5 MOTM His 1st half performance was sublime Howard - 6.5 - Worked tirelessly just wish he could score now Fryatt - 6.5 Didnt get much of a chance they defended well against him. Got an extra point purely for that brilliant run in the 27th Min! Quality that was. Waghorn - 5 - Didnt do anything for me much Kermorgant - 5 Wasnt the game for him Id have rather seen DJ bought on
teblin Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 6 Didn't have to make any saves, didn't have anything to do. Morrison - 6 defends well, but does struggle when in the final third but he didn't get much support out there. Berner - 6.5 - Solid as always Brown - 7 - One of his better games. Hobbs - 7 played really well, other than his mistake at the end. Oakley - 6 huffed and puffed didn't do much. Dyer - 6 think he struggled due to the whole midfield was too narrow. Wellens - 6.5 Did ok but not as well as he can King - 7 Best i think king has played this season, though still not sure he would be in my starting 11. Howard - 6 didn't get much decent service should've scored too. Fryatt - 6 wasn't really in the game. Waghorn - 5 - Can't make my mind up about this lad doesn't seem to do the simple things. Kermorgant - 5 Didn't really get mucgh chance play one very good ball to waghorn
20mj08 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Weale - 6 Didn't have to make any saves, didn't have anything to do. Morrison - 6 defends well Berner - 7 - par performance Brown - 6 - One of his better games. Hobbs - 7 not the best but saved his and our arse at the end with a world class tackle Oakley - 6 had a below par but linked up with most players well Dyer - 6 think he needs to forget the shooting aspect of the game Wellens - 6 like oakley linked up well not much else King - 7 played well first half and kept lilly savage quiet for parts Howard - 6 did all he could do i suppose. fryatt- 7 made some good runs shame it didnt come to anything subs 6 would have liked to see adams run rings around them but i think pearson went for the 'if its not broke why fix it' approch
chesterfox Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 if there any qualified coaches out there, please confirm this but my mate who is a Level 3 and therefore has some credence says re King he is a coach's dream - as it what he does off the ball and without it and consequently goes un-noticed by most that makes him such an asset.
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