SirBlueFoxington Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Well at least some agree that McGiven is getting too much stick.
lildave3 Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Just me who enjoyed watching it then! Didn't think it was as bad as everyone is making out, although it wasn't a great performance. Far too much sloppy passing/hoofing from just about everyone today. Wellens was shit. Neilson was worse. Brown was often ludicrous. I said pre-match that i'd take a 1-1, and i'll stick with it. Not a problem for me, another point on the board. Oh, and Mcgivern had a decent second half I thought. Still prefer Berner, obviously.
Guest Bilo Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 I don't care if Mandaric has to raid his grand-children's piggy banks, we desperately need new full-backs on the evidence of today. Berner is excellent but there is no replacement for the bloke if he isn't in the squad. McGivern was woeful again today, desperately short of pace and awful distribution. Neilson tries SO hard, he really does but the poor guy is completely out of his depth. No pace, poor passer of the ball and clueless against tricky wingers. We need to bring back Gilbert or any other right-back as well as a new left-back because the situation as it is could well cost us a play-off place.
Flynny Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 I don't think there are any other left-backs, they're a lot scarcer than right-backs. I'd go as far as to say I'd take Sheehan back, at least he could take set-pieces
Tommeh Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Dyer was by far our best player and most persistant threat. Weale made a few good saves and helped us get the point. McGivern wasn't as bad as everyone's making out, did incredibly well under pressure and was no worse than a 6. This coming from Bruno Berner and Chris Powell's bumboy. We were direct, King and Wellens struggled to get on the ball and missed the usually decent distribution from the back of Hobbs. Robbie Neilson really is not cut out for it here. McAuley seemed to have the knowledge on Fryatt from the 1st kick, unsurprising really. We're still 5th, anyone would think we were in Derbys position. Moaning, fickle fu cktards.
Rich Fox Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Was gutted when I found out Wayne Brown was playing he gives the ball away so easily and it comes straight back at us, he never even looks like scoring from set pieces he is our worst player utter shit. Mcgivern is nearly as bad his positional play is awful and he too gives the ball away all the time, nielson is not much better, If we can replace these 3 fools with players who can actually play football then we have a decent side, we should drop oakley and get a right winger in his place as he is no good on the wing, i feel gallagher is a decent player and would do ok in fryatts position if we sold him and invested the money in the areas ive mentioned we would get to the play offs. People who think Pearson is a poor manager are also fools he makes a few mistakes but has a winning mentality and is overall doing a good job.
Guest ttfn Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Can't play well every week. We played poorly today but we're FIFTH.
sam_lcfc Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Same old story every week now.No right winger, awful fooking Captain Oakley had yet another shocking game to add to his large selection this season. No pace or cutting edge up front, Howard did well for him today but the goal was a gift, Fryatt was a lazy twat all game. We must be the worst team in the world at set pieces, didn't Wenger say once we took the best set pieces in Europe not anymore, must have wasted 15+ today, most of them down to Shitty fooking bastard captain crap Oakley. Even Wellens has been shite recently, King did well, Dyer did very well but you can't expect 2 players alone to keep the midfield going. The Neilson moans are an absolute fooking joke, yes he's fooking woeful on the ball cannot cross or pass, but he always gets forward on the right wing and gets into space and good positions, the only reason he has to do that is because we have no right winger Oakley is nowhere, Neilson is doing 2 jobs. It's actually ridiculous some of the Neilson comments i heard, thats Oakleys fault for not being in his position, if Neilson improves his basic ball skills he will be a really good player. McGivern is shit, and compared with Berner very shit. Brown was poor. Morrison was fantastic and is probably Pearsons best signing at present. Weale was good. Weale, Morrison, King and Dyer and possibly Howard were our only hopes today. Pearson got his subs wrong today, i feel so sorry for Dany N'Guessan, what the fook has he got to do to even get a sub appearence, and Yann should have probably been starting ahead of Howard, his goal was a gift. Same old story every week though, no width on the right, shit Captain, no pace or cutting edge upfront and woeful set plays, Pearson needs to sort it out because it's been like that all season apart from a few great all round performances. Howard's goal was only a gift because he made sure he got a fanastic block in and then finished it off well. Howard played well today, won good knock-downs and actually directed them into the path of our players - who then fooked it up. NOT HOWARD'S FAULT
IOWFOX Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Just remembered Brown's overhead kick, couldn't stop laughing when he went for that
acooling08 Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Dreadful performance, we wouldn't have scored if we'd been there all night.The fact we could barely string a pass together or deliver a corner past the first post is very worrying. On the plus side, we've got a point in a game we didn't ever turn up to. You mean like Howard did?
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Went: - Morrison and Hobbs are both better than Brown. - Why Adams isn't used even a tiny bit more to give some bite in midfield in games like today is beyond me. - I don't see the fuss over Wellens. - Gallagher cannot cross for shit. - Howard's attitude is appaling. HOWEVER - People like to focus on the negatives after a game like today which, in all fairness, was a point against one of the divison's form teams. Clearly it wasn't great to watch but a point's a point. There are alot of good things about this team that people seem to erase from their brain when they opt to spout shit. I'm not going to start saying "we'll not make the play-offs," and "this is the worst team I've ever seen," (much like the twat sat behind me), City are fifth with a couple of games in hand, for Christ's sake, the team's over acheived massively. Strengthening is needed but alot of the people in the stadium need a reality check, severely.
shen Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Just me who enjoyed watching it then! Didn't think it was as bad as everyone is making out, although it wasn't a great performance. Far too much sloppy passing/hoofing from just about everyone today. Wellens was shit. Neilson was worse. Brown was often ludicrous.I said pre-match that i'd take a 1-1, and i'll stick with it. Not a problem for me, another point on the board. Oh, and Mcgivern had a decent second half I thought. Still prefer Berner, obviously. The first half was OK, even if we were shit for most of it. But apart from the point-blank save at the start of the second, there was nothing to get excited about. The hoofing, wayward passing and lack of a decent cross especially after that subs came on was highly frustrating, don't you think?
Lillehamring Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Well at least some agree that McGiven is getting too much stick. definitely, i thought he put in a real shift today, and compared to his previous perfomances, and despite the ignominy of the unfortunate own goal, i thought he was easily our best defender... didn't think neilsen was that bad either. i mean people are criticising them because they aren't playing killer balls, yet that was sorely lacking in all areas today. i can't believe people are being so kind to morrison, some of his many many sliced balls were just horrific, but as i said, i think brown's ineptitude brought out his nerves, bring back hobbs. that said, his attempted bicycle kick was priceless
chesterfox Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Went:- Morrison and Hobbs are both better than Brown. - Why Adams isn't used even a tiny bit more to give some bite in midfield in games like today is beyond me. - I don't see the fuss over Wellens. - Gallagher cannot cross for shit. - Howard's attitude is appaling. HOWEVER - People like to focus on the negatives after a game like today which, in all fairness, was a point against one of the divison's form teams. Clearly it wasn't great to watch but a point's a point. There are alot of good things about this team that people seem to erase from their brain when they opt to spout shit. I'm not going to start saying "we'll not make the play-offs," and "this is the worst team I've ever seen," (much like the twat sat behind me), City are fifth with a couple of games in hand, for Christ's sake, the team's over acheived massively. Strengthening is needed but alot of the people in the stadium need a reality check, severely. thank fook for a little reason - I haven't even read the rest of the threads because you start to get to know what to expect, but hey onwards and upwards. It's not that I'm not aambitious but this season has already been a success, so carry on supporting and stop the booing!!!
Captain... Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 We must be the worst team in the world at set pieces, didn't Wenger say once we took the best set pieces in Europe not anymore, must have wasted 15+ today, most of them down to Shitty fooking bastard captain crap Oakley. On Sky they kept on referring to how dangerous we were from free kicks and how we were dead ball experts, I had to laugh, he was clearly confusing this team with the MON team 10 years ago (easily done I know). The Neilson moans are an absolute fooking joke, yes he's fooking woeful on the ball cannot cross or pass, but he always gets forward on the right wing and gets into space and good positions, the only reason he has to do that is because we have no right winger Oakley is nowhere, Neilson is doing 2 jobs.It's actually ridiculous some of the Neilson comments i heard, thats Oakleys fault for not being in his position, if Neilson improves his basic ball skills he will be a really good player. I agree that having Oakley in front of him doesn't help Robbie (and have posted it on here before), but Morrison looked some much better in that position using the same formation so it's not all Oakley's fault. Robbie did get forward but his distribution and crossing were poor, which again wouldn't be such an issue if we had a right winger and he could concentrate on defending rather than being our only option on the right. I'm still not sure what was worse today Oakley's corners or Neilsen's "long" throws, laughable.
Ozwin Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 I just checked all my toes are in tact after sitting on my arse in the most cold conditions I think I've ever experienced at a game. Right, Robbie Nielson, I've had it. I don't care anymore, he's had chance after chance and just hasn't improved at all. No doubt someone will stick up for him but he's clearly only half the footballer of anyone else on our team. He can't cross, he takes half hour to take a first touch, he can't take his man on, he has no pace (his fault for the goal) and his supposid long throws are abysmal. Also, why the fook does he boot it to the corner flag area everytime he gets the ball? SOME VARIETY MOTHER ****ER, GET WITH THE PROGRAMME! We need 2 right backs in January. I can't believe teams havn't pinpointed him more, he's such a weak link it's not even funny anymore. I did however think McGivern had a great game bar one or two moments. He looked much more composed and was talking to players around him which to me shows he's become a bit more confident. The same goes for Morrison who also had a decent game in defence. Brown did well but he does have a few strange moments (like when he shielded the ball for Weale when under pressure from a player.)
davieG Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 I went, I enjoyed it, it may not have been the best of performances, but still miles better than the last time we were in this division but it was a pretty an edgy game that made for a bit of tension (most caused by Brown ) and excitement. Onwards and upwards.
Edmund Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 - Gallagher cannot cross for shit. It's obvious he only plays as we spent a large amount of money on him even if it means he's out of position. Like you said why not Adams or N'guessan or even our own Gradel. And Oakley on the wing again. I'm happy with the point and not going to get carried away and overreact like most on here but if we ironed out these small flaws it would put us in good stead.
WardyisPukka Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Just remembered Brown's overhead kick, couldn't stop laughing when he went for that That was class!!! we were crap for 1st 20 mins , but looked ok still a bit dodgy at the back , pearson seriously needs to look at a new right back someones whos solid , cause neilson is just a complete liability , king should of buried that chance he had in 2nd half !! still we are 5th ppl and i would have certainly taken that at the start of our season , anyone moaning should look at derbys result yesterday 4-1 AT HOME AGAINST SCUNNY
lildave3 Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 The first half was OK, even if we were shit for most of it. But apart from the point-blank save at the start of the second, there was nothing to get excited about. The hoofing, wayward passing and lack of a decent cross especially after that subs came on was highly frustrating, don't you think? Plus there was a scuffle! Guess you had to be there to get excited about that one Yeah it was frustrating, we just ended up laughing about it though, mad eit much easier
Cropwellfox Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Below-par performances from the majority of the players meant we couldn't dictate the game. I think Ipswich did a pretty effective job on us, made it difficult for Fryatt and Howard, and closed us down very well until they dropped back with about 20 to go. Not good from us today, but for all of the players' shortcomings my view is that you cannot fault our commitment, (Oakleys goal-saving tackle, McGivern getting stuck in after the OG, Neilson doing his best to be our RW with Oakley drifting inside.) Far too often in the last few years pride and commitment has been sadly lacking, but not the case at all with this group of players. There are a couple of positions where we clearly need more strength. Both FB areas stand out, and if Tunch doesn't come back we really need another clever/quick CB, but I'm sure Pearson knows what he is doing. Might be we have to sacrifice one or two of our forwards to sort it - I wonder how long Gallagher might stay with us, really hard to see a regular role for him in our side and for a reported £1m+ we can't afford him as a bit part player. Also wonder whether Adams will go elsewhere - surely today would have been made for him to come on and take the game to their full backs once they started dropping deeper and deeper. Onwards and upwards, massive 3 weeks for us now.
Lillehamring Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 it really does surprise me how critical everyone is being, in the second half when gallagher, waghorn and kermo came on ipswich could hardly get hold of the ball, even our defence we're looking fairly assured. the only thing missing was a decent final ball, and the real evidence of how dominant we finished the game was by the nervousness of the ipswich fans in the pub with us, because as poor as some people are making us out to be, the ipswich lot were bricking it and we were just waiting for that one killer ball.
lou Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Not the best game Ive ever seen but definately not the worst.... didnt see their goal as I was still getting my gloves on and putting the phone away! Heard a load of cheering and looked up to see Weale picking the ball out of the sodding net. All a bit "Meh" really
Matt Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Not happy, Not unhappy, slightly disappointed, the result was acceptable, we'll move on.
shen Posted 10 January 2010 Posted 10 January 2010 Plus there was a scuffle! Guess you had to be there to get excited about that one Yeah it was frustrating, we just ended up laughing about it though, mad eit much easier That's the spirit Well done for being out there in the cold for two hours!
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