Edmund Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 I honestly believe that we were a better team last year.... Kerry was better than Nielsen, joe was better than Ryan, tunch much much better than donkey brown, max better than gallagher, add to this the super loan signings of cleverley and mark davies and it's clear we have gone downhill I reckon... Your forgetting the opposition is a step up from league 1. Gallagher is playing right wing when I'm certain he is a striker?! We have Dyer on the bench, Adams out on loan and have just let Gradel go. Why can't we play players in their natural positions?! I can guarantee if Gallagher cost £200k, he wouldn't be accomodated wherever Pearson can stick him in. Poor signing and poor management. I tend to find myself agreeing with you This is definitely one of the worst/pointless signings in recent years and like you said the fee dictates that he starts. It wouldn't surprise me if he started in goal if Weale was injured I'm glad other people are now agreeing with me on this as I started a thread on this a little while back which was quickly closed and merged by the hierarchy (third reich) to feed individual interests. Again before people start saying disabled etc if you can't see that a striker playing on the wing is hindering us then I'm lost for words. I'm not panicking or overreacting/knee jerking as I'm looking at the bigger picture but it's been evident for so long that Gallagher is a weak link in the side. I think half way through a season is a fair time to make a valid judgement on a player.
Dylan Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Why did we bring on King for Nguessan. If were gonna bring him on, take off one of our centremids, like Oakley who cant pass to save his life. Not our winger, so we have to play 2 players out of position. Think Dyer should've come on instead, leaving Waghorn on, with Fryatt. I think Pearson keeps playing Gallagher to try and justify his signing, but hes just not good enough for the wing. Hes a striker, if you're gonna play him, PLAY HIM UP TOP.
Dylan Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Gallagher will and never has been anywhere near a 20 goal a season striker. He only averages about 7 a season, so is on track with the 2 he's scored so far for us.Best position for me is probably playing tucked in behind the front 2. His best position for me is on the bench.
purpleronnie Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Christ, did people think we were genuine play off contenders? I thought people would realise we were playing above ourselves and although a blip wasn't a certainty, it's hardly a shock... I don't think many did, I probably got a bit too excited after our start but never really thought we'd do it. I said at the start I think a mid table finish would be a good achievement with the team we have and I think thats where we'll finish. IMHO The team isnt good enough to reach the playoffs, we definately need a few better players.
Daggers Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Completely agree with Tilley's comments. Pearson's mediocre signings and questionable management decisions are now catching up with him and others teams have identified our weaknesses. I'm getting sick of the hoofball football we play as a result of our defenders being unable to pass, our midfielders being able to create space and keep the ball and our strikers being unable to hit the net. We're setting off with a handicap by playing no wingers and playing players out of position.Our squad is definitely weaker this season than last season and that's a damning indictment of Pearson's decisions and transfers.
Corky Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Our squad is definitely weaker this season than last season and that's a damning indictment of Pearson's decisions and transfers. Can you really compare them, being in different divisions?
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Why did we bring on King for Nguessan. If were gonna bring him on, take off one of our centremids, like Oakley who cant pass to save his life. Not our winger, so we have to play 2 players out of position. Think Dyer should've come on instead, leaving Waghorn on, with Fryatt. I think Pearson keeps playing Gallagher to try and justify his signing, but hes just not good enough for the wing. Hes a striker, if you're gonna play him, PLAY HIM UP TOP. This. Gallagher was a waste of money. IMO he isnt good enoguh to play up front but certainly isnt a winger. Bit like Kermorgant as well. Kermo hasnt done anything up front and yet he is suddenly being played ahead of Howard/Fryatt who have scored more and offer far more to the team. Oh and why the fook does Gallagher take corners and free kicks? They are woeful, surely it cant be that hard to practice it during training.
Liamlcfc1 Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 what a load of crap we need to get rid of oakley and bring in darren ambrose and maybe marcus bent some one who can pass anyway pearson need to get his team right and stop swaping everyone around
RowlattsFox Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Our squad is definitely weaker this season than last season and that's a damning indictment of Pearson's decisions and transfers. Or maybe its because we are playing at a higher level? The team we currently have would have walked League 1 just as much as last seasons team did. The main players in last seasons team have had their chance this season (expect maybe Gradel but I don't think he was a first choice player last year) so I don't get that argument at all. Obviously very disappointing to lose again, we need to regain some confidence. I can't tell you how anyone played tonight so I can't say who needs to be dropped. I would say I'd rather have Oakley out right than Gallagher.
Leicfox Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 If that is the case then such a substantial fee shouldn't have been wasted on a player that quite clearly doesn't fit into our system and style of play. Yeah i do agree with that. I was chatting with a Preston fan today at work about him and their fans really liked him. I'm sure he said they played him more as a AMC too. He couldn't believe we were playing him out wide though.
Salieri Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 I'm a little suprised - after seeing the result I was expecting a 'sack Pearson' thread but no one's done that yet. Ony a matter of time. As some have said on here, we have over-acheived in the early part of the season and reality is beginning to kick in now. With the current squad a mid-table finish is likely which, in our first season back in the Championship would be acceptable. The biggest disappointment for me is that after getting ourselves into such a good position prior to the transfer window, we haven't seen the (promised) investment in the squad which could have seen us maintain our position.
reynard Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Can't say I am at all surprised. We simply don't have the quality to reach the play offs. Our strike force is useless really and our midfield little better. Until we address these area with some quality and especially up front some pace we will continue to be mediocre. The most important thing now is to get the 6 wins which would mean we won't be relegated. As others have said the quality of players we signed pre season simply isn't good enough to get us into the premiership.
Nationwider Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Agree with Anish, sadly. You've only been here five minutes - you'll soon get out of that habit.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Can't believe nobody's posted their player ratings yet. Sort it out! Well Peterboro fox was adimit we got robbed of 2 peno decsions that were clearly penalties as far as he can tell from the radio. So he might be able to sort out some ratings for you
leicesterseddon Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 I think the punching above our weight comment had it pretty much spot on. We've done well to remain as high as we have done given the standard of the team. We can still attain a play-off place but it's becoming increasingly clear that in order to do that we'll need to add quality to the team. Personally I can't see us doing this, but I hope I'm proved wrong.
Unit Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 I don't care about the politics of this message board, who posts what etc, all i can say is that I'm really disappointed we didn't win tonight. I know we're not at our peak but it's still frustrating to be losing after such a successful streak. bah. It's not like we're leicester circa 2005 so as far as i'm concerned it's still going well, it's only a loss.
andyh1884 Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Middlesbrough have two points less than us and were one of the pre-season favourites to go up. All things considered, are we really doing that badly considering we were 2 divisions below them last season and have a much tighter budget? I'd say their squad had far more quality than ours. I don't see Chelsea/Man U/Liverpool being linked with our young winger. Ours went to Leeds. Get a bleeding grip. We're 8th and over halfway through the season, where the fuck did people expect us to be? If the answer to that is 'challenging for promotion' then that's your fault for being so ludicrously over-optimistic at the start of the season. Interesting how Pearson's tactics worked for the first half of the season, but suddenly a couple of bad results and he's lost the plot. What exactly is he doing differently to the previous 24 games? Please? Someone? I have every faith that Pearson will be able to address any issues that he is able to, given the obvious restrictions he's operating under. After all, we did alright last season and we had a few difficult times towards the end of the season, when similar mongy opinions were posted on here about his tactics, substitutions etc.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Long ball football at it's best tonight. Hopefully Nobby will pass the ball around and lead by example on this, We need to start playing on the ground. Saturday: Probably a near sell out game, (even sell out maybe) Playing top of the table, Playing a team with great fans and History. I've got a feeling, that we will up our game, Do forest a favour, and get something out of the game.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Middlesbrough have two points less than us and were one of the pre-season favourites to go up.All things considered, are we really doing that badly considering we were 2 divisions below them last season and have a much tighter budget? I'd say their squad had far more quality than ours. I don't see Chelsea/Man U/Liverpool being linked with our young winger. Ours went to Leeds. Get a bleeding grip. We're 8th and over halfway through the season, where the fuck did people expect us to be? If the answer to that is 'challenging for promotion' then that's your fault for being so ludicrously over-optimistic at the start of the season. Interesting how Pearson's tactics worked for the first half of the season, but suddenly a couple of bad results and he's lost the plot. What exactly is he doing differently to the previous 24 games? Please? Someone? I have every faith that Pearson will be able to address any issues that he is able to, given the obvious restrictions he's operating under. After all, we did alright last season and we had a few difficult times towards the end of the season, when similar mongy opinions were posted on here about his tactics, substitutions etc. You deserve a medal, Excellent post.
Finchy Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Middlesbrough have two points less than us and were one of the pre-season favourites to go up.All things considered, are we really doing that badly considering we were 2 divisions below them last season and have a much tighter budget? I'd say their squad had far more quality than ours. I don't see Chelsea/Man U/Liverpool being linked with our young winger. Ours went to Leeds. Get a bleeding grip. We're 8th and over halfway through the season, where the fuck did people expect us to be? If the answer to that is 'challenging for promotion' then that's your fault for being so ludicrously over-optimistic at the start of the season. Interesting how Pearson's tactics worked for the first half of the season, but suddenly a couple of bad results and he's lost the plot. What exactly is he doing differently to the previous 24 games? Please? Someone? I have every faith that Pearson will be able to address any issues that he is able to, given the obvious restrictions he's operating under. After all, we did alright last season and we had a few difficult times towards the end of the season, when similar mongy opinions were posted on here about his tactics, substitutions etc.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Our squad is definitely weaker this season than last season and that's a damning indictment of Pearson's decisions and transfers. So this is compared against Pearson's decisions and transfers last season yes? How can the two be such polar opposites? If it was true, surely we'd be in a similar position as Peterborough? S****horpe aren't fairing much better? I tell what we do need though, and that is hungarian wingers! Why haven't we tried that? Someone called Bsolt and another called Zori? People seem to forget that when we've signed wingers and played them before and we haven't liked them anyway so maybe square pegs in round holes is the better option at the moment? A lot of people have slated Gradel as being unable to cross, many think the same of N'Gussian and Dyer, and out and out wingers don't grow on trees. Who would we sign in that position Leicester made it's name by being hard to beat, solid. That's what we have been, but lost our way a little. We're never going to out play a team on the deck, so we need to play the direct pass every now and then and build attacks from there. True it seems players are not living up to standards set earlier in the season, but then consider we are half way through what is a much tougher season, injuries have taken its toll and we haven't been able to rotate the squad much due to lack of quality in depth I think that puts some things in prespective. Bristol City lost 6-0 at home to Cardiff tonight - so teams like us can get bad results and go on bad runs, but a win will bring back the confidence and we'll be on our way again. On a further point brought up by many, Gallegher is a bright player, and I think what pearson is trying to achive is a fluid formation of a solid 442 in defense that turns into a 433 in attack. I remember watching Leicester play under Mr O'neil, looking at the line up and not knowing whether we were playing a 352 or 442 and that used to work in our favour. It will come right - have faith, and show it with your voice on Saturday - the players will need it (sadly I won't be there yet again)
reynard Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Middlesbrough have two points less than us and were one of the pre-season favourites to go up.All things considered, are we really doing that badly considering we were 2 divisions below them last season and have a much tighter budget? I'd say their squad had far more quality than ours. I don't see Chelsea/Man U/Liverpool being linked with our young winger. Ours went to Leeds. Get a bleeding grip. We're 8th and over halfway through the season, where the fuck did people expect us to be? If the answer to that is 'challenging for promotion' then that's your fault for being so ludicrously over-optimistic at the start of the season. Interesting how Pearson's tactics worked for the first half of the season, but suddenly a couple of bad results and he's lost the plot. What exactly is he doing differently to the previous 24 games? Please? Someone? I have every faith that Pearson will be able to address any issues that he is able to, given the obvious restrictions he's operating under. After all, we did alright last season and we had a few difficult times towards the end of the season, when similar mongy opinions were posted on here about his tactics, substitutions etc. Sadly it is not so simple as people being over optimistic. Any side in the play off positions at Christmas has a reasonable chance of making the play offs at the end of the season and fans have a right to be disappointed if that doesn't pan out. Some investment now might lead to the play offs where anything can happen. Also of course it may not happen, but the same can be said for next season as well. There is no guarnatee that we will do anything like as well next season and could even be at the other end of the table. The question is do we have an owner and a manger ambitous enough to try and take the chance whilst it is there.
Matt Posted 26 January 2010 Posted 26 January 2010 Long ball football at it's best tonight. Hopefully Nobby will pass the ball around and lead by example on this, We need to start playing on the ground. Saturday: Probably a near sell out game, (even sell out maybe) Playing top of the table, Playing a team with great fans and History. I've got a feeling, that we will up our game, Do forest a favour, and get something out of the game. This was one of my pet hates before the Pearson era though, Ok it's a big team but why should we only 'up our game' for Newcastle, Why shouldn't we 'up our game' and show teams such as Barnsley respect and know we can't just turn up and beat them.
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