Guest MattP Posted 7 October 2011 Posted 7 October 2011 Tbh,We're ****ing England supposedly in the top ten in the world with out national team and we've drawn twice to Montengro.... Who aren't a bad side, it's part of what was Serbia. Not exactly a minnow nation.
New England Fox Posted 7 October 2011 Posted 7 October 2011 Did rooney's dad bet on his son being sent off? Made me laugh that did!
J.Lisemore Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 I can't wait till the Euro's are over to be honest (Every sane person knows were gonna get nowhere), Capello will be gone and we might just give an ENGLISH manager the chance manage the ENGLAND team.
The Doctor Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 What would it matter if the manager was English? Your side is utter dobbins, you've got precious few good prospects coming through and the nationality of the manager won't make a shred of difference to that.
Webbo Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 What would it matter if the manager was English? Your side is utter dobbins, you've got precious few good prospects coming through and the nationality of the manager won't make a shred of difference to that. Says the plastic jock.
The Doctor Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 ey? Our side is crap and we've not got much coming through (although I'd be tempted to say more than England coming through) but we recognise that and don't think getting rid of Levein and appointing a foreign manager will automatically improve us.
ScouseFox Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Scotland have more young prospects than England?! Some of the worst trolling I've ever, ever seen. And if you're actually being serious, well, just give up.
VinceNoir Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 If you fancy a good match on tuesday evening try find a stream of Denmark - Portugal. Currently, both teams have 16 points and this match will decide who wins the group. It has all the ingredients to be an interesting match.
accessory Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 I can't wait till the Euro's are over to be honest (Every sane person knows we're gonna get nowhere), Capello will be gone and we might just give an ENGLISH manager the chance to manage the ENGLAND team. Such as?
BlueSi13 Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Who aren't a bad side, it's part of what was Serbia. Not exactly a minnow nation. They have the same size population as Glasgow.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2011 Author Posted 8 October 2011 I must know nothing about British football. I genuinely didn't realise Scotland had better than Smalling, Jones, Young, Welbeck, Cleverley, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Lansbury, Henderson and co'. What sort of idiot watches United's start to the season and then dismisses England's youth prospects?
J.Lisemore Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Such as? The way I see it mate, Is that its embarrassing to have an italian bloke (who can barely string an english sentence together) in charge of our National football side. I don't give a s*it if hes the bees knees and won all these domestic league titles, If he aint English, its not good enough for me. But hey, the FA knows best. Theyll be asking foreign players to play for us next.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2011 Author Posted 8 October 2011 The way I see it mate, Is that its embarrassing to have an italian bloke (who can barely string an english sentence together) in charge of our National football side. I don't give a s*it if hes the bees knees and won all these domestic league titles, If he aint English, its not good enough for me. But hey, the FA knows best. Theyll be asking foreign players to play for us next. This strikes a little of severe jingoism. That said, I am a little on the fence when it comes to this debate. Certainly I think, while it's the rules, I have no problem with having foreign managers. But at the same time part of me thinks it should be within the rules that criteria for a manager should be the same as a player. Though I can understand that this might be problematic for smaller or less experienced nations (though, that said, Japan performed considerably better on taking on a local coach.)
BlueSi13 Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 What would it matter if the manager was English? Your side is utter dobbins, you've got precious few good prospects coming through and the nationality of the manager won't make a shred of difference to that. They are your side too Our future prospects aren't looking bad at all actually it has to be said with Jones, Smalling, Richards, Cleverly, Wilshere, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Welbeck, Sturridge, McEachran, Carroll, Walker, Kelly, Gibbs, Albrighton, Delph, Henderson, Lansbury, Moses, Ranger, Hoyte, Rodwell, Shelvey, Sears, Delfouneso, Sterling, Flanagan, Wickham etc etc etc To be honest i fancy Wales to be far superior to the Scots over the next 5-10 years.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2011 Author Posted 8 October 2011 We're far superior to the Scots now, truthfully. We were the better side when we beat them comfortably in 2004, we were the better side when Ramsey tore them apart in Cardiff. They might have won the last game between the two of us but if you look at the squads we both put out in that championship in Dublin I don't really think it's an accurate reflection of our squads. Our biggest problems is injuries and a lack of depth but any Scotsman that wants to claim they can put out a stronger 11 than us is an idiot. Who do they have of the calibre of Ramsey, Bale or Bellers? We're getting closer and closer to being able to put out an entire side of Premiership players and some of the youngsters Tosh blooded are starting to really come into their own.
BlueSi13 Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 We're far superior to the Scots now, truthfully. We were the better side when we beat them comfortably in 2004, we were the better side when Ramsey tore them apart in Cardiff. They might have won the last game between the two of us but if you look at the squads we both put out in that championship in Dublin I don't really think it's an accurate reflection of our squads. Our biggest problems is injuries and a lack of depth but any Scotsman that wants to claim they can put out a stronger 11 than us is an idiot. Who do they have of the calibre of Ramsey, Bale or Bellers? We're getting closer and closer to being able to put out an entire side of Premiership players and some of the youngsters Tosh blooded are starting to really come into their own. I agree with this totally, could the Scots have outplayed us at Wembley from the 1st minute to the last like Wales did? Not a chance, the future of Welsh football looks bright to me
Corky Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Who do they have of the calibre of Ramsey, Bale or Bellers? Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness and Alan Hutton.
J.Lisemore Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 This strikes a little of severe jingoism. That said, I am a little on the fence when it comes to this debate. Certainly I think, while it's the rules, I have no problem with having foreign managers. But at the same time part of me thinks it should be within the rules that criteria for a manager should be the same as a player. Though I can understand that this might be problematic for smaller or less experienced nations (though, that said, Japan performed considerably better on taking on a local coach.) Don't you think its an embarrassment in itself that the FA are not comfortable in appointing an English manager of their nation? Its a big kick in the teeth for the decent English managers we have in this country, their written off way to early in my opinion. Its a case of work with what you've got... if your a small nation and using a local coach so be it? make a name for yourself.
BlueSi13 Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Don't you think its an embarrassment in itself that the FA are not comfortable in appointing an English manager of their nation? Its a big kick in the teeth for the decent English managers we have in this country, their written off way to early in my opinion. Its a case of work with what you've got... if your a small nation and using a local coach so be it? make a name for yourself. I don't think its the FA's fault, the fault lies with the Premier League who have been allergic to appointing English managers for the top jobs for at least 15 years now. Therefore our top players are used to working with foreign coaches with huge CV's that they got by winning trophies with the top clubs in their own countries. Our managers look distinctly lightweight in comparison.
Bugg Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Last time the FA appointed an English manager (not long ago) we didn't even qualify for the European Championship.
J.Lisemore Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Last time the FA appointed an English manager (not long ago) we didn't even qualify for the European Championship. Thats a fair point and that appointment didn't pay off. I don't know about you, but I'm proud to be English and I dont feel we need to rely on other countries to deliver us success.
accessory Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Thats a fair point and that appointment didn't pay off. I don't know about you, but I'm proud to be English and I dont feel we need to rely on other countries to deliver us success. Right now, the only successful England team are the cricketers - and even that's due to a Zimbabwean coach and half a dozen Springboks...
Bugg Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 Thats a fair point and that appointment didn't pay off. I don't know about you, but I'm proud to be English and I dont feel we need to rely on other countries to deliver us success. I agree, I was just pointing out that gambling on a manager because they are English isn't always the correct decision. If we are to appoint and English manager it can't be someone like McLaren again who is already involved in the set up and too "matey" with the players.
J.Lisemore Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 I agree, I was just pointing out that gambling on a manager because they are English isn't always the correct decision. If we are to appoint and English manager it can't be someone like McLaren again who is already involved in the set up and too "matey" with the players. But thats the thing, I feel we should work with what we've got. Maybe I'm old fashioned, I don't know anymore to be honest. Just out of curiousity, do you think Stuart Pearce would be a bad choice? (think he ruled himself out, might be wrong though)
accessory Posted 8 October 2011 Posted 8 October 2011 But thats the thing, I feel we should work with what we've got. Maybe I'm old fashioned, I don't know anymore to be honest. Just out of curiousity, do you think Stuart Pearce would be a bad choice? (think he ruled himself out, might be wrong though) He has ruled himself out. Not that we should be grieving about this - Psycho hardly covered himself in glory during either of his previous spells of club management.
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