Jackirius Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 The problem isnt Normal 17/18 year olds... The problem are the sort of people my age which go out wearing trackies and a white tank top, also known as chavs. Let these guys out on the road in a car and you might aswell be giving them a gun. Im 17 and havent past my test yet but all of my friends drive sensibly and dont 'show off' to their friends whilst driving. Its only a small majority... And their not hard to spot.
Guest Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Don't agree with the banning at certain times of the day etc. But somebody on the BBC made a good comment about when you learn to ride a motorbike you can only use certain engine sizes until you've passed more tests to upgrade, that in my opinion is the best way to do it. That's not a bad point at all. Not sure it'd entirely resolve the issue but it'd definitely be a start
dandannieldanok Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Don't agree with the banning at certain times of the day etc. But somebody on the BBC made a good comment about when you learn to ride a motorbike you can only use certain engine sizes until you've passed more tests to upgrade, that in my opinion is the best way to do it. Maybe, but I'm pretty sure 70% of newly qualified drivers already drive cars with small engines because of the extreme insurance quotes for anything above a 1.2l. Possibly worth considering but does engine size really make you less or more likely to cause an accident. You can still get to dangerous speeds in 1.0l cars very easily.
lildave3 Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Alternatively, just don't be a twat when driving.
Jay Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Young drivers aren't helped as there are millions of poor role models out there on the roads. I must get at least 10 separate occasions per journey (over 10 miles) where some middle-aged bloke is up my arse trying to goad me to go quicker because I'm deemed too slow at the 30mph limit. The stats don't lie, a large percentage of traffic accidents are caused by youths who drive dreadfully, but you can't restrict it for one age group when the other age groups are not a lot better themselves. Experience = complacence. Sometimes I feel like a right twat because I am actually going at the speed limit, a prime example is the A46 to Leicester currently this is a 40mph road due to the roadworks, yet it seems it's only me who is able to see the 40mph signs ALL the way along the road! the number of cars right up my arse is just stupid, overtaking in stupid places etc
hairy Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I think they should impose a curfew on women and older drivers too while they are at it. Only seems just to me
z-layrex Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 So, the student nurses at my work can hep us treat critically ill patients in itu, very competently I might add, but they won't be able to drive to the fooking hospital in the evening for a night shift? What an absolute joke.
StanSP Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I think they should impose a curfew on women and older drivers too while they are at it. Only seems just to me I'd like to see some stats actually on if women cause more accidents than men...
hairy Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I forgot the caravans! All caravans should not be able to use the roads between the hours of 7.00am and 10.00pm! and those lorries that restricted to 40mph should also have to use the roads between those hours too.
Webbo Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 So, the student nurses at my work can hep us treat critically ill patients in itu, very competently I might add, but they won't be able to drive to the fooking hospital in the evening for a night shift? What an absolute joke. I wouldn't worry about it. This has zero chance of happening.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 There are shocking drivers in all age groups but the reason they're targetting young drivers is because they specialise in the headline grabbing multiple death super accidents that skew the casualty figures against them. Old people have loads of accidents but most of them are just for a new bumper after they reverse into a bollard for the millionth time. They tend not to drive an overloaded fiesta into a tree at 65 mph at 3am, which is just the sort of accident that the proposed restrictions are looking to prevent. On a vaguely related subject, I received an insurance industry bulletin the other day which included a rather self congratulatory piece about how the number of uninsured vehicles in the UK has been reduced from 1.3 million to a mere 1 million. I suppose in percentage terms that's significant, but I cannot believe that having 1 million uninsured vehicles on the roads is doing wonders for road safety
Jon the Hat Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 On a vaguely related subject, I received an insurance industry bulletin the other day which included a rather self congratulatory piece about how the number of uninsured vehicles in the UK has been reduced from 1.3 million to a mere 1 million. I suppose in percentage terms that's significant, but I cannot believe that having 1 million uninsured vehicles on the roads is doing wonders for road safety Really? Can you think of a better reason for not wanting to be pulled over for speeding / driving like an idiot / crashing into something / someone than not having any insurance?
Bellend Sebastian Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Really? Can you think of a better reason for not wanting to be pulled over for speeding / driving like an idiot / crashing into something / someone than not having any insurance? You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But apparently not: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4535423.ece Paragraph near the end has figures. Been saving yourself a few quid, have you Jon?
Bellend Sebastian Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 People go to Uni to research this shit I did worse shit than this at university
caz05 Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I think they should impose a curfew on women and older drivers too while they are at it. Only seems just to me
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I fear we're going saftey mad here - we're taking away the human natural selection here. I appreciate there is the added issue that these idiots can also kill innocent others but sometimes you just have to let prats be prats and pay the concequences.
Alexikokopops Posted 22 September 2010 Posted 22 September 2010 I disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvP7Jv8rUK4&feature=related
ACF Posted 22 September 2010 Posted 22 September 2010 Similar scheme over here, doesnt work. It's the alcohol, not the age of people driving.
Matt Posted 22 September 2010 Posted 22 September 2010 I did worse shit than this at university Unbelievable. In fact on second thoughts, maybe not.
Durnerz Posted 23 September 2010 Posted 23 September 2010 Similar scheme over here, doesnt work. It's the alcohol, not the age of people driving. I agree with this, theres people of all ages on the road who are complete twats and drive in a way that matches. Having driven on various different motorways and being a designated driver on a few occasions it poses as a real eye opener as to the stupidity of motorists at all points of the day in all the different speed zones. I feel its unfair to restrict solely younger drivers as when I passed my test I found that I learned more on the road by myself than I had in my entire tuition, some people have been on the road for years and still treat it as an alcohol fuelled race track.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 September 2010 Posted 23 September 2010 I don't think they're arbitrarily pointing the finger at young drivers and saying 'it's all your fault'. They're simply looking at why younger drivers make up a disproportionately large part of the casualty figures for road accidents and why they're involved in so many accidents full stop, and suggesting ways of addressing this, which you may or may not think are fair or will help. It's fair enough saying that drivers of other ages can be crap as well, and I don't think anyone would argue this. However, you only have to look at your insurance premiums compared to those of older people to see where the insurance companies think the risks lie and when it comes to cold hard statistics they know more than most
purpleronnie Posted 23 September 2010 Posted 23 September 2010 Why not just ban cars. That will lower the death rate even more.
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