So who messed up the silence?

[Fox92]

I did hear Birch say that the Last Post will be played and then that will be followed by a minute silence after the ref's whistle.

There may have been a little confusion, but as soon as the last post stopped I thought L1 started singing so Derby replied. Don't quite understand why people started singing 'wa**ers' after, Derby were just singing back.

Anyway, there was some people making stupid sheep noises before the silence (and maybe during) - Very uncalled for.

It was just a misunderstanding though, because some of the players broke away after the Last Post.

[Jimmy]

the club know this fixture occurs every year as I believe they ask for it so why can't the put an order of service on the website, in the mercury and both local radio stations with similar sent to the visiting club detailing exactly what they have planned to do to pay tribute to our fallen heroes

[phillthefox]

all this abuse saying our fans have no respect is a disgrace, even after the post horn some of the players broke away so clearly the instructions wernt very clear, and from the KOP i could hardly hear them...... but what i will say is the chants sounded like they were from those scummy derbt C***s

maybe for once the club takes responsability and not push the blame once again on the fans..........

I cannot believe some fans abuse of fellow fans on here its as disgraceful as those not respecting the silence........

BLUE ARMY BLUE ARMY

[Jimmy]

the derby fans reacted to L1

[diggler]

I also found the poor sound quality of the last post very disrespectful. The club should have spent the helicopter money on getting a new PA

[Webbo]

Tbf It was very hard to hear the instructions in L1. Ironically I saw lads singing through the minutes silence then turning and shouting willy puller at the Derby fans when they sang back.

As others have said what's done is done now. Let's get over it and make sure it doesn't happen again.

[lcfcbradyboy]

in the derby forum there saying it was only us and one or two of them were telling us to shut up

but from were i was sitting it was the derby fans and the LCFC fans started shouting at them to shut up ?

[stripeyfox]

It about sums things up when people need a list of instructions to be able to shut up for a minute. Even if some weren't sure, then the fact that 20000 other people who managed to understand what was going on should have been a pointer. Maybe err on the side of caution if you weren't sure?

I'm going to tesco's this morning but don't expect to get issued with instructions on what I'm supposed to do at 11.

There's always one twat who shouts something, but best just not to respond, until afterwards

[SheepShagger]

Right, i thought i'd pop over to add a different perspective to this mess.

It all seemed to start when some fans in L1 chnated ingerlund at the end of the horns, in turn, a lad from our end shouted get some fooking respect which didn't go down to well and was greeted with some sheepshagging insults,finally both sides then decided to call each other wankers.

I think it is crucial to remeber that it was a very small minority the sound enhanced as 25,000 people were obversing the silence impecabbley. As for the chants of "Derby" and "Leicester" these came from outside the ground as a late police escort of ours had just turned up.

Anyway fair play yesterday, you look a good outfit, the return game should be good if we are both still on tracks for the play offs.

[fleckneymike]

For heavens sake. You don't need instructions. It's called a conditioned response. This is not the first year the club have held a remembrance day match (this is the 5th year at least I can remember. We came up with the Poppy on the shirt idea which every other club has adopted), unless everyone in L1 started coming for the first time this season how could they not know what to do? I spotted very helpful visual clues as to how I should behave like large poppies being held by young service people. A helicopter landed on the pitch too. Someone played the last post on a bugle, infact the microphone was really bad and the sound kept cutting out but I still knew it was the last post, as did 20,000 other people who managed to keep quiet, not boo, not baa, not clap, not heckle.

Don't try and defend the ignorance of others.

Do they need reminding what to do on Christmas Day? I mean that only happens once a year too!

[SheepShagger]

Right, I've just got in, and I can't be arsed to read four pages. I was right amongst our lot next to the Derby fans so let me just clear this up:

The remembrance tune was played by the PHG bloke. Now in fairness I remembered right at the end of him playing that there is usually supposed to be a minute silence, having remembered previous rememberance weekend games. Now I don't know whether it was just due to being in a particularly atmospheric area of the ground (it probably was) or turning up 5 minutes before kick off (which many others would have done) but I was not aware of any information on the minute silence before the horn was played. That is why I say, I realised that there would be a minute silence from memory only. Also bare in mind that it was not actually rememberance day today, which may have confused some people, as the 2 minute silence is on rememberance day.

Now don't try and tell me that the Leicester fans in L and K block have no respect for the brave deceased. (Like I said, I haven't read the comments so I'm not accusing anyone of saying so). It was very obvious that several Leicester fans DID NOT REALISE that there was supposed to be a minute silence after the horn. Now you can put that down to confusion, stupidity or even drunkenness if you like, but not disrespect. After about 10 seconds of singing other Leicester fans had got there message across, and those singing realised that they should be quiet. The Leicester fans then became silent.

But I'm sorry, the real trouble and embarrassment was from the Derby fans. They just wouldn't let it go. Once everyone fell silent, you'd just expect everyone to just honour the silence. But no. A number of Derby fans continued to ruin it by shouting 'you've got no respect', 'shut the fook up', and 'you're a fooking disgrace'. It wasn't just 5 seconds, it was continuous abuse. Eventually, some Leicester fans reacted to them and told them to shut up.

By this time, the minute silence was an absolute embarrassment. Whilst I think the Leicester fans made an honest mistake, the Derby fans were an utter disgrace and it was their reaction that was really disrespectful - they WERE AWARE that they were supposed to be silent. And before you say people should no better - well frankly rememberance day is only once a year, not once a week, and not everyone goes to a football match and remembers that you have a silence there too. If they were not at the match they would have just had the 2 minute silence on Thursday, not today. Like I keep saying, it was a mistake, people forget things sometimes, it wasn't meant to be disrespectful from our fans, they just forgot. Shame the Derby fans couldn't just let the mistake go.

All in all it was a complete shambles, disgrace and embarrassment of a minute silence, but I blame those dirty sheep shagging scumbags. On a positive note, I think the whole incident fuelled a few tempers and it made the atmosphere in the game all the better.

fooking glad we wiped the floor with those dirty C U N T S!

LULZ, your well fuuny.

If the fans in L1 and K1 can't here the PA system how the fook are were we meant to hear it, having said that most did know and it was spoiled by a minority on both sides so fook off if you think we were deliberatley disrespectful.

Oh and glad we made your saturday by fox loving chum.

[Bugg]

Biased shit

Kitchandro, you seriously can't blame it on one section of fans. Our fans were just as bad as the Derby fans and saying that they were the ones causing the trouble is completely unreasonable.

[Guest MarshallForEngland]

I wish some of these clowns would get off their high horses. Should the players who misunderstood be ashamed of themselves too?

[Arkie Bennett]

It might be better to have the minute's silence first, then the Last Post.

[AndyBrew]

It might be better to have the minute's silence first, then the Last Post.

to be honest I think there's a set order to events and always has been the Last Post introduces 1/2 minutes silence, it's not rocket science

I'm surprised some of these people can find their way to the ground in the first place

[broughtonblue]

to be honest I think there's a set order to events and always has been the Last Post introduces 1/2 minutes silence, it's not rocket science

I'm surprised some of these people can find their way to the ground in the first place

Sat nav!

[Arkie Bennett]

to be honest I think there's a set order to events and always has been the Last Post introduces 1/2 minutes silence, it's not rocket science

I'm surprised some of these people can find their way to the ground in the first place

It was the other way round at the Cenotaph this morning.

[AndyBrew]

I thought it was ended by the playing of the "The Rouse"??

Edit: I didn't see the event this morning as I'm at work.

[Arkie Bennett]

I thought it was ended by the playing of the "The Rouse"??

Edit: I didn't see the event this morning as I'm at work.

Fair enough. The Big Ben chimes started the 2 minutes' silence, then the Last Post ended it. I think, yesterday, if they started a minute's silence with the referee's whistle, followed it immediately with the last post, and used the referee's whistle to mark the end of the ceremony, it might have been clear what was happening, even to the least intelligent. Then again, perhaps it is just too ambitious to expect a bunch of morons to keep quiet.

[Babylon]

I can accept people making a mistake and shouting when not knowing what they were supposed to be doing (presuming that's why they did it and I can't believe there is another reason). But the idiots who continued the "You shut up. No, you shut up" for the minute are the bigger idiots.

If they knew what they were meant to be doing then they should have kept quiet themselves, the people who started singing soon realised what was going on and went quiet pretty quickly.

Fleckneymike can bang on about 91 years as much as he wants. Not everyone is aware of the ettiquette though, in fact i'm not even sure there is a set one as I have seen different events done in different ways. A lot of these people could quite possibly have never been involved in one before, so it doesn't make them ignorant or stupid if they didn't hear the instructions.

[Petchy]

No offence to the op, but making a topic about this was a bad idea as all it leads to is people moaning and arguing over it. No matter what anyone says the silence was broken. Doesnt matter who started it.

[Guest Mee-9]

No one wants to see such an unedifying spectacle.

Its not a case of who started it, its more a case of why get involved?

He was just trying to help. Did you go to the match mate? Why let it dampen your mood on a fantastic 3 points.

Anyway, This would never of happened if DJ Campbell was still at the club.

[fleckneymike]

I can accept people making a mistake and shouting when not knowing what they were supposed to be doing (presuming that's why they did it and I can't believe there is another reason). But the idiots who continued the "You shut up. No, you shut up" for the minute are the bigger idiots.

If they knew what they were meant to be doing then they should have kept quiet themselves, the people who started singing soon realised what was going on and went quiet pretty quickly.

Fleckneymike can bang on about 91 years as much as he wants. Not everyone is aware of the ettiquette though, in fact i'm not even sure there is a set one as I have seen different events done in different ways. A lot of these people could quite possibly have never been involved in one before, so it doesn't make them ignorant or stupid if they didn't hear the instructions.

I can assure there is a set one (it involves being silent, theres a clue in the tern 'a minutes silence'). It's last post then silence. The only variation is after the silence where the Rouse can be played.

Unless you have lived outside of the United Kingdom for the majority of your life I fail to see how you wouldn't have been involved in one. At EVERY school you observe a minutes silence, it's on EVERY UK news programme, it's on EVERY radio station, EVERY terrestrial TV station, it's been at the Walkers for EVERY home game prior to Remembrance Sunday for the past 8 seasons. You'd have to try incredibly hard to not know, or you'd have to be so self absorbed as to not pay attention to what you have been doing for nearly every year since you were born.

[Fosse Boy]

People can hark on about "missing instructions" and "the players breaking off" all they like but when every other ground in the country was capable of observing the silence perfectly it does make you wonder what kind of people we're attracting to our ground. Common sense should surely override any ignorance of PA announcements or provocation from other parties.

Also not sure what the point was in mixing up the parade so the WW2 Vets were mingled in with the various local youth teams. Was a bit cringe seeing all these little kids (and their coaches, who ought to have known better) going cock-a-hoop over the standing ovation that blatantly wasn't for them. I'm sure they all appreciated the "Ingurlund! Ingurlund! Ingurlund!" though...

[fleckneymike]

He was just trying to help. Did you go to the match mate? Why let it dampen your mood on a fantastic 3 points.

Anyway, This would never of happened if DJ Campbell was still at the club.

I did indeed, I go every week like those in L1, I've been going for years like those in L1 yet somehow I always remember to shut up during the minutes silence yet some of those in L1 don't. It's dampened my mood because I am struggling to comprehend how anyone can not know how to behave during a minutes silence. I hate this whinging attitude of seeking to blame others, it's no ones fault but your own if you made a noise.

We've now got ludicrous suggestions that we have a minutes applause because a small minority can't be bothered to take the time to learn how to behave. Decades of tradition and respect should be changed because morons cant keep quiet.