Wellens to Brum

[hackneyfox]

No he has a point bout all these ****** on here who rekon wellens is not one off our best players week in week out!!

Oh yes, you're anotherone that abuses those who disagree with your opinion, and it is only an opinion, not a fact.

These boards are here for people to discuss things and give their opinions not to be abused by slightly hysterical posters.

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[hackneyfox]

You first

Where?

You went very quiet and had a few posts pulled a few weeks ago.

[Kitchandro]

Check out Man City second goal. He made no move toward their player who set up Tevez. Wellens was 10 yards from him when the ball was played to him and 10 yards from him when it was crossed - ok he would not have got to him to tackle him, but an attempt to close him down would probably have meant he could have deflected the ball for a corner. Instead it was easy to play the ball past him.

Likewise I think it was the last home game for Vitor. We conceded a goal and even though Wellens was closest to their player in possession he was pointing to Vitor to come out of his back four position, come past himself ( ie Wellens ) to close down their attacker - YES lazy b*stard and of course they scored. Inconsistent does crap things, does good things = you got to know what you're watching and be able to see both the good and the bad, sorry!

The first one was his mistake yes - doesn't everyone make mistakes?

The one against Doncaster was Vitor's fault. He was outdone for pace and Vitor should have picked him up once he ran past him

I could pick out plenty of occassions where Abe and King have made mistakes too. Wellens is our most consistent performer and defifnitely not lazy.

[artursteppe]

I love how fickle people can be sometimes, where has the loyalty gone in football? Wellens has produced some of the best performances within our team both this season and last. It's the same with people who have now suddenly turned on Dyer (a player who has also been one of our best players this season even though Vassel has been favoured over him).

So what's the plan, sell Wellens and disrupt the midfield/team once again and try and find a player that can make hold his own against players like Vier / De Jong in the next couple of weeks just in time to make a real push for the play-offs? Wake up.

I am certainly not fickle. I have always thought Wellens was inconsistent and often lazy, since the first time I saw him, and I bet everyone who doesn't overrate him has been consistent with their opinion as well!

[Kitchandro]

Where?

You went very quiet and had a few posts pulled a few weeks ago.

erm, lets say pretty much everytime you engage in a debate with me.

I'm not doing this, I don't like you and you don't like me, so just ignore me and I'll ignore you

[Wymsey]

FFS Wellens is a player we need to keep. As this league is physical, we need his battling type presence to have a chance on winning games. He's no shite player at all.

[hackneyfox]

Wellens can go from the sublime to the ridiculous, he can look disinterested one week and the next he can be sent off for losing his rag and lashing out at players.

He has improved on that this season and has loked good in the last few games, he can still be replaced though.

[hackneyfox]

erm, lets say pretty much everytime you engage in a debate with me.

I'm not doing this, I don't like you and you don't like me, so just ignore me and I'll ignore you

oh no!!!!!!!

[lestajigs]

Oh yes, you're anotherone that abuses those who disagree with your opinion, and it is only an opinion, not a fact.

These boards are here for people to discuss things and give their opinions not to be abused by slightly hysterical posters.

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[Guest BlueBrett]

Wellens can go from the sublime to the ridiculous, he can look disinterested one week and the next he can be sent off for losing his rag and lashing out at players.

He has improved on that this season and has loked good in the last few games, he can still be replaced though.

Well you say that but by who? I really can't think of anyone realistic outside the Prem who could be a ready made replacement for Wellens

[artursteppe]

Wellens can go from the sublime to the ridiculous, he can look disinterested one week and the next he can be sent off for losing his rag and lashing out at players.

He has improved on that this season and has loked good in the last few games, he can still be replaced though.

Now that is absolutely spot, am in total agreement.

[hackneyfox]

Well you say that but by who? I really can't think of anyone realistic outside the Prem who could be a ready made replacement for Wellens

Perhaps Sven would look at a player from The Premier, would that be that surprising?

[martyn]

Kitchandro's points might be worth listening to except it's rather obvious from the tone of his posts that he couldn't possibly be impartial when referring to Wellens.

Lets face facts, Wellens spell at Leicester has had 3 obvious stages.

1) First couple of months after joining. Great, looked hungry and inventive, excellent signing by NP

2) A long inconsistent patch, delighting and infuriating fans in equal measure along the way. Divisions of opinions amongst fans forming here and thus shaping the differing contributions in this thread

3) A return to form for the past 2 or 3 months. Has looked superb ever since Abe came into the side/we adopted a 4-5-1 (I'm not necessarily suggesting this is linked).

The "told you so" brigade need to have a word, as well as the naysayers. Wellens is obviously a good footballer, he's shown he has the requisite ability on numerous occasions not only here, but throughout his career, however, he's not infallible and has had extended periods of poor performances (start of this season, periods of last season) whilst here.

As such, and also considering his age, I'd consider any decent sized bid from a PL side. I do think he would be easier to replace than King (where can you buy 15 goals a season from midfield for less than £2m without speculating?) and Abe (quick, mobile defensive midfielder with class on the ball, not many around), that's just my opinion.

I don't want this to come across as anti-Wellens, I'm anything but, however this thread has too much hysteria on both sides.

[hackneyfox]

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[Bilbo]

Sorry but what has Dyer actually achieved this season.

Yes he's fast and can terrorize a defence, until they realise that he doesn't actually do much, he can't cross a ball and his shooting just recently has been poor.

Thank god Vassel was favoured over Dyer, how else was he ever going to get match fit?

Some can watch Vassel achieve little in his first few games but know that there is a potentially good player out there for us who has already been successful in his career, others see Dyer running around all over the place and believe that he is the best thing since sliced bread when he has actually done nowt in his career.

It's all about opinions, but not all of them can be right.

So your arguement is based on the fact that Vassel has the "potential" to be a good player and "already been successful" in his career? If this is the right opinion then I would prefer being wrong.

Having been to most home matches this season Dyer does more than just run, he gives the team the attacking edge it needs and puts the oppositions defence on the back foot (Doncaster game for example). He has also had to deal with injury and losing his first team place, but does he sulk? No, he still plays with the same effort he always has.

My point though was more that I would rather support the players we have in the team at the minute rather than be so quick to "bite the arm off" any premier league club that wants them.

[Kitchandro]

Kitchandro's points might be worth listening to except it's rather obvious from the tone of his posts that he couldn't possibly be impartial when referring to Wellens.

Lets face facts, Wellens spell at Leicester has had 3 obvious stages.

1) First couple of months after joining. Great, looked hungry and inventive, excellent signing by NP

2) A long inconsistent patch, delighting and infuriating fans in equal measure along the way. Divisions of opinions amongst fans forming here and thus shaping the differing contributions in this thread

3) A return to form for the past 2 or 3 months. Has looked superb ever since Abe came into the side/we adopted a 4-5-1 (I'm not necessarily suggesting this is linked).

The "told you so" brigade need to have a word, as well as the naysayers. Wellens is obviously a good footballer, he's shown he has the requisite ability on numerous occasions not only here, but throughout his career, however, he's not infallible and has had extended periods of poor performances (start of this season, periods of last season) whilst here.

As such, and also considering his age, I'd consider any decent sized bid from a PL side. I do think he would be easier to replace than King (where can you buy 15 goals a season from midfield for less than £2m without speculating?) and Abe (quick, mobile defensive midfielder with class on the ball, not many around), that's just my opinion.

I don't want this to come across as anti-Wellens, I'm anything but, however this thread has too much hysteria on both sides.

That's not true at all, I'll slate any player when they deserve it, but when they don't I'll stick up for them. It's not that I'm not being impartial, I just happen to really rate him.

If you ask me it's impossible for some people to be impartial when talking about King, Abe and even Bamba already.

[hackneyfox]

Kitchandro's points might be worth listening to except it's rather obvious from the tone of his posts that he couldn't possibly be impartial when referring to Wellens.

Lets face facts, Wellens spell at Leicester has had 3 obvious stages.

1) First couple of months after joining. Great, looked hungry and inventive, excellent signing by NP

2) A long inconsistent patch, delighting and infuriating fans in equal measure along the way. Divisions of opinions amongst fans forming here and thus shaping the differing contributions in this thread

3) A return to form for the past 2 or 3 months. Has looked superb ever since Abe came into the side/we adopted a 4-5-1 (I'm not necessarily suggesting this is linked).

The "told you so" brigade need to have a word, as well as the naysayers. Wellens is obviously a good footballer, he's shown he has the requisite ability on numerous occasions not only here, but throughout his career, however, he's not infallible and has had extended periods of poor performances (start of this season, periods of last season) whilst here.

As such, and also considering his age, I'd consider any decent sized bid from a PL side. I do think he would be easier to replace than King (where can you buy 15 goals a season from midfield for less than £2m without speculating?) and Abe (quick, mobile defensive midfielder with class on the ball, not many around), that's just my opinion.

I don't want this to come across as anti-Wellens, I'm anything but, however this thread has too much hysteria on both sides.

Spot on, summed up his Leicester career perfectly, which by my reckoning means he has spent about 6 months looking like a good signing, the rest of the time has been questionable (for me), his goals for tally is abysmal though.

[Guest BlueBrett]

Perhaps Sven would look at a player from The Premier, would that be that surprising?

Not surprising no. But let's just say we got 2mill for Richie..who in the Prem could we get that would be an improvement for that kind of money and make the whole bit of business worthwhile? Unless you think we should offload Wellens and then go pay 5,6 or 7 mill for somebody (who may consider the championship beneath them in any case). If that's your opinion then surely you could just say the same about pretty much every player in our team? Let's just sell the lot of them and buy.. oh i don't know the Sunderland squad for example instead.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Sven will make the right decision for the team, no point arguing on here about it.

[hackneyfox]

That's not true at all, I'll slate any player when they deserve it, but when they don't I'll stick up for them. It's not that I'm not being impartial, I just happen to really rate him.

If you ask me it's impossible for some people to be impartial when talking about King, Abe and even Bamba already.

And for me you come over the same way when talking about almost every other player.

Sorry but your defence of Weale & Fryatt and now Wellens has stepped over the line, let people give their opinions without calling it bullshit or claiming it is some kind of anti northern bias.

I agree with you about Bamba though, he's become a cult figure after one game, how he continues to do that I don't know.

[Dylan]

Been fantastic lately, hope he doesn't go. How likely is this?

If he does, I wouldn't accept anything less than £4million- I rate him very highly.

[hackneyfox]

Not surprising no. But let's just say we got 2mill for Richie..who in the Prem could we get that would be an improvement for that kind of money and make the whole bit of business worthwhile? Unless you think we should offload Wellens and then go pay 5,6 or 7 mill for somebody (who may consider the championship beneath them in any case). If that's your opinion then surely you could just say the same about pretty much every player in our team? Let's just sell the lot of them and buy.. oh i don't know the Sunderland squad for example instead.

In case you hadn't noticed that appears to be what the Thais and Sven are planning on doing, not Sunderland though.

If we could offload Wellens for 2m and buy a proven premier midfielder for 4m more I'd be very happy.

The owners clearly want us to go up this season.

[hackneyfox]

Been fantastic lately, hope he doesn't go. How likely is this?

If he does, I wouldn't accept anything less than £4million- I rate him very highly.

4m for a 30 year old Championship player who doesn't score, you do rate him highly.

[shen]

Been fantastic lately, hope he doesn't go. How likely is this?

If he does, I wouldn't accept anything less than £4million- I rate him very highly.

For a soon to be 31-year old who's never played at a higher level than the Championship???! And even then he's only played in the Champo for 2½ years!

[Kitchandro]

And for me you come over the same way when talking about almost every other player.

Sorry but your defence of Weale & Fryatt and now Wellens has stepped over the line, let people give their opinions without calling it bullshit or claiming it is some kind of anti northern bias.

I agree with you about Bamba though, he's become a cult figure after one game, how he continues to do that I don't know.

Oh so you never want a confrontation with me then.

Face it you're always looking for an argument, if I think something's bullshit I will say so. That's my opinion. That doesn't mean I have a personal vendetta against them like you do.

Now if you can resist starting an argument with me I will ignore you. But if you're going to accuse me of things then you're pretty pathetic and I'll let you know about it.