Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 How do you know that? It's just as likely they would say, "bloody hell I can't believe we are going to have Henry here. What an opportunity to learn from one of the best premier league players of all time". I think you want to believe that, but do you believe it really? Waghorn is going on loan to Derby right? Well that tells me he's more interested in playing football tha wanking over Henry. That's a professional footballer's attitude. Put yourself in their shoes. Believe me, they aint gonna be happy that they're being benched for a publiucity stunt. The Henry experience (if it did happen) might be fun for a month, but long term it wouldn't help us.
Babylon Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 This place is funny, the fact we are arguing about whether Henry or SWP are good enough for the mighty LCFC, or worried that Given might upset Weale if we sign him. Earth to Leicester fans... it's not so long about we were signing Lamey and Črnčič
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 How do you know? Have you ever managed a football team? Your arguments are so full of assumptions. As are yours. All opinions have some assumptions, or else they'd be facts. I've never managed a football team no, have you? What I have done is seen a lot of football. So my opinion is that going for short term big names is not a good way to get success, it's better tot build a team, and only sign players who have a possibility of being here reasonably long term,
Fox1651 Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Errm Thierry Henry would have been a good signing on a free 5 or 6 years ago but hes pants now!!!!
Babylon Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 I think you want to believe that, but do you believe it really? Waghorn is going on loan to Derby right? Well that tells me he's more interested in playing football tha wanking over Henry. That's a professional footballer's attitude. Put yourself in their shoes. Believe me, they aint gonna be happy that they're being benched for a publiucity stunt. The Henry experience (if it did happen) might be fun for a month, but long term it wouldn't help us. You said the squad would be upset, I couldn't give a **** about individuals. If Sven doesn't think he is good enough then I don't care. How do you know it's Waghorn who wants to go on loan? And us not wanting him to go on loan. Assumptions Assumptions Assumptions.
cc_star Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 i could be wrong, but maybe sending him on loan somewhere he is guaranteed 90 mins a week for a month would bring out the old waggy. isnt that the whole point of letting you players go out on loan anyway, regardless of wether they have just recently joined you for 2 mil. he has been luke warm for us so far. How do you know, he hasn't played under Sven's Leicester? I really don't get why people are quick to wipe Waggy off as meh Waghorn has scored 3 league goals from 11 starts Vassell has scored 3 league goals from 11 starts Waggy's goals came in a period of turmoil for the club rather than during a settled and progressive period that Vassell's have under Sven. Waggy is 20 and has a long future ahead of him, Vassell is 30 and whilst far from over the hill he isn't the future. Anyway, I'm not talking about Waggy replacing Vassell as Vassell is obviously doing a job for Sven, but given the chance Waggy should be doing a job for us & not a team who are potentially better placed in the league. In my opinion this is terrible business for Leicester both for this season and the future, but it could be good for Waghorn as an individual. the only shining light on this ridiculous decision is that somebody may come in on loan, but with Parker now signed for the Greek side and Thierry Henry a bigger non-starter than Beckham as he doesn't even want to play during his off season pickings could be thin on the ground. But... in Sven we trust (just).
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 You obviously do not understand what Sven and the owners are trying to do, so I will explain it to you as simply as I can. They are trying to give the club ( this season ) the best chance of getting to theplayoffs. Then, if we have real quality in the team for the playoffs we would have an excellant chance of promotion. By that I mean, if our team is the best team with the best players in the playoffs we ( at least ) in theory, would have the best chance to win through. Waghorn is seen as a potential quality player for the future. You know it makes sense. ( Anyway, how many of these star names have we brought in on your basis of one every other week. Who are they, 'cos I've missed them. ) Well you seemed to have completely ignored what I've said there so I don't really see your point. How many big names have we chased after so far? Too many.
Babylon Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 As are yours. All opinions have some assumptions, or else they'd be facts. I've never managed a football team no, have you? What I have done is seen a lot of football. So my opinion is that going for short term big names is not a good way to get success, it's better tot build a team, and only sign players who have a possibility of being here reasonably long term, Jesus christ you are hard work. I put assumptions in there to highlight what you are doing.
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 You said the squad would be upset, I couldn't give a **** about individuals. If Sven doesn't think he is good enough then I don't care. How do you know it's Waghorn who wants to go on loan? And us not wanting him to go on loan. Assumptions Assumptions Assumptions. So you care only about watching Henry, not the whole squad, is basically what you're saying. Good prefessionals want to play football, not watch Henry. End of.
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Jesus christ you are hard work. I put assumptions in there to highlight what you are doing. Alright there's no need to be cheeky just because you want Henry and I don't. Maybe you're just not used to being debated with. I acknowledged your assumptions comment
Babylon Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 So you care only about watching Henry, not the whole squad, is basically what you're saying. Good prefessionals want to play football, not watch Henry. End of. What are you talking about? I haven't said anything of the sort. Jesus H Christ.
artursteppe Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Well you seemed to have completely ignored what I've said there so I don't really see your point. How many big names have we chased after so far? Too many. Sorry, YOU said 'bringing in players every other week', not chasing players. You obviously don't understand what you said, yourself, not just what I've said.
Babylon Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Alright there's no need to be cheeky just because you want Henry and I don't. Maybe you're just not used to being debated with. I acknowledged your assumptions comment I haven't even said I want him have I? Assumptions.
martyn Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Stats can mean anything you want them to mean. Vassell hadn't played football for a significant length of time and understandably took a few games to get going. Since then he's been very impressive. I have a lot of time for Waghorn, but he's really struggled this season, his close control has vanished and he's been playing like a headless chicken. At this critical stage of the season, if he's not getting a look in then I have no problem with him going out on loan, whoever the side. If he gets a few games in then hopefully his confidence and sharpness (which is critical to his game) will return and he can be of use to us in the closing portions of the season. The only reason I could make for him staying would be to cover for injuries, but it seems reasonably obvious that Sven has another forward lined up anyhow. As for those comments saying they would find it hard to support Waghorn should he go on loan to rivals
themotivator Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 How do you know, he hasn't played under Sven's Leicester? I really don't get why people are quick to wipe Waggy off as meh Waghorn has scored 3 league goals from 11 starts Vassell has scored 3 league goals from 11 starts Waggy's goals came in a period of turmoil for the club rather than during a settled and progressive period that Vassell's have under Sven. Waggy is 20 and has a long future ahead of him, Vassell is 30 and whilst far from over the hill he isn't the future. Anyway, I'm not talking about Waggy replacing Vassell as Vassell is obviously doing a job for Sven, but given the chance Waggy should be doing a job for us & not a team who are potentially better placed in the league. In my opinion this is terrible business for Leicester both for this season and the future, but it could be good for Waghorn as an individual. the only shining light on this ridiculous decision is that somebody may come in on loan, but with Parker now signed for the Greek side and Thierry Henry a bigger non-starter than Beckham as he doesn't even want to play during his off season picking could be thin on the ground. But in Sven we trust (just). i think in general DV has outperformed Waghorn, wether he's scored the same amount or not. i wouldn't like to sell Waghorn, i think he will be a good player in the future. at the moment though, it just seems that a short term loan move designed to get a player who is out of form some games under his belt is being blown all out of proportion.
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 What are you talking about? I haven't said anything of the sort. Jesus H Christ. You said you couldn't give a **** about individuals - well I was talking about the squad. The squad is full of individuals yes, but Henry is a minority. You appeared to refer to the squad as the individuals, as you replied to me saying that the squad would be unhappy. Sorry, YOU said 'bringing in players every other week', not chasing players. You obviously don't understand what you said, yourself, not just what I've said. Well OK then we are chasing big names every other week That's no good either Has everyone forgotten that the Thais came out and said they wanted a big name? I haven't even said I want him have I? Assumptions. So are you just taking the piss or what?
themotivator Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 im supposed to be writing my bloody dissertation. dont mind if waghorn goes on loan. even if it was an unlikely proposition i would spuzz if i saw henry wearing a leicester shirt. im off
artursteppe Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Well OK then we are chasing big names every other week That's no good either Has everyone forgotten that the Thais came out and said they wanted a big name? Every manager in the country is 'chasing' players every week. Sven said he had his own list of about a hundred names, and he would only bring in players who are better than we have at the moment. If those players are going to be better, why not start at the top end and see what we can get. The man has got 'balls' and obviously doesn't mind a few rejections. He can't be faulted for the way he is trying to get our team promoted this season. What is up with you - Hinckley United is still an option.
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Every manager in the country is 'chasing' players every week. Sven said he had his own list of about a hundred names, and he would only bring in players who are better than we have at the moment. If those players are going to be better, why not start at the top end and see what we can get. The man has got 'balls' and obviously doesn't mind a few rejections. He can't be faulted for the way he is trying to get our team promoted this season. What is up with you - Hinckley United is still an option. You're whole argument is based around thinking that Sven is right. As Babs would say 'assumptions, assumptions'. In fact, how do you know it's Sven and not the Thais? Do you trust their football knowledge? My problem is not so much the players we are trying to get, but that they will inevitably not be here for very long. And yes that is an assumption in itself, but I'm quite confident that would be the case. Short term signings will IMO, unsettle the squad and not make much of a positive impact.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Henry would have been awesome at Leicester a few years ago but its no more than a publicity stunt now surely?
hackneyfox Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Kitchandpro you are priceless, just how many more people can you manage to fall out with. You never listen to anybody else's point of view, and your bit about assumptions and facts is brilliant.
hackneyfox Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 You've been a Leicester Fan for 11 years, so how old are you, just how much football could you have seen?
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 Kitchandpro you are priceless, just how many more people can you manage to fall out with. You never listen to anybody else's point of view, and your bit about assumptions and facts is brilliant. Read the thread numbnuts I think it's other people (like you) who can't take me having an opinion they don't agree with. Babs was the one taking the Mick and being cheeky with comments like 'Christ you're hard work'.
Kitchandro Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 You've been a Leicester Fan for 11 years, so how old are you, just how much football could you have seen? Oh and do you do anything else but try and pick fault with me? Try looking at yourself before you criticise everyone else, cos you're not very likeable yourself
hackneyfox Posted 18 January 2011 Posted 18 January 2011 He was trying to point something out to you but as per normal you're too arrogant to take it on board.
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