Kitchandro Posted 4 October 2011 Posted 4 October 2011 Well I hope you are right on the ticket prices, judging by what I have seen so far though I see no evidence they would be made affordable. I know what you mean but all I'm saying is ticket prices are a whole seperate issue. Maybe they will be really expensive and we only have a 25K average, in which case our stadium is already too big for us. But maybe they are made cheap, and we get 35K+. The first is probably more likely but my point is those variables do not really determine whether we are a big enough club to fill our stadium at a certain capacity. Leeds got 22K for their last game - on a Saturday at 3pm. But that doesn't reflect what they would get in the Premiership with prices reasonable. IF our prices were cheap enough and we were doing well I could see us getting an average of around 35K, considering the size of the City.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 4 October 2011 Posted 4 October 2011 I know what you mean but all I'm saying is ticket prices are a whole seperate issue. Maybe they will be really expensive and we only have a 25K average, in which case our stadium is already too big for us. But maybe they are made cheap, and we get 35K+. The first is probably more likely but my point is those variables do not really determine whether we are a big enough club to fill our stadium at a certain capacity. Leeds got 22K for their last game - on a Saturday at 3pm. But that doesn't reflect what they would get in the Premiership with prices reasonable. IF our prices were cheap enough and we were doing well I could see us getting an average of around 35K, considering the size of the City. Agreed buddy. lots of variables like you say but with the wind in the right direction more than possible in the future, heres hoping
Len Finsbury Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I can hear the songs now: "Big ground, no fans. Big ground no fans"!
jonthefox Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I can hear the songs now: "Big ground, no fans. Big ground no fans"! Its ok from man u or arsenal fans
Fox92 Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Surely for ours to be like the Stadium of light the roof would have to be raised all the way around? Which wouldn't be good for acoustics you'd think. I was thinking this. Not sure if it actually can happen, but I think it would probably look better. If you look at the Stadium of Light, it looks like an older two tier stand with a modern roof, pretty good actually in my opinion. whats the point? we would never fill it, this will never ever happen. How do you know? We don't fill the stadium now, but if we were ever promoted to the Premier League, more people will want to come and watch the bigger teams and the better players etc
panky and our gang Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I think we are in danger of getting ambition confused with ability . We are not a big club and never will be . since the new grounds opening on how many occasions has it been filled to capacity even in the prem ? We lost a lot if not all the atmosphere of the old filbo when we moved . Remember that tight close to the pitch feel of the old ground and the roar of the crowd ? The only reason i can think of for extending on this level would be to hold pop concerts as Leicester only has the poxy De montfort hall . Maybe a few years of having bands like Kasabian play would help pay for it . And in any case let's get into the prem then gauge if we need an extension or not , my guess is even with prem status there will be plenty of games that will not sell out .
jonthefox Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I think we are in danger of getting ambition confused with ability . We are not a big club and never will be . since the new grounds opening on how many occasions has it been filled to capacity even in the prem ? We lost a lot if not all the atmosphere of the old filbo when we moved . Remember that tight close to the pitch feel of the old ground and the roar of the crowd ? The only reason i can think of for extending on this level would be to hold pop concerts as Leicester only has the poxy De montfort hall . Maybe a few years of having bands like Kasabian play would help pay for it . And in any case let's get into the prem then gauge if we need an extension or not , my guess is even with prem status there will be plenty of games that will not sell out . Gigs arn't allowed. The foundations are too shaky apparently.
Fox92 Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I think we are in danger of getting ambition confused with ability . We are not a big club and never will be . since the new grounds opening on how many occasions has it been filled to capacity even in the prem ? We lost a lot if not all the atmosphere of the old filbo when we moved . Remember that tight close to the pitch feel of the old ground and the roar of the crowd ? The only reason i can think of for extending on this level would be to hold pop concerts as Leicester only has the poxy De montfort hall . Maybe a few years of having bands like Kasabian play would help pay for it . And in any case let's get into the prem then gauge if we need an extension or not , my guess is even with prem status there will be plenty of games that will not sell out . Manchester City said that a few years ago.
Finnegan Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 That bloody Hadron Collider is beginning to worry me! lol
panky and our gang Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Your not seriously comparing us to Man City are you ? :blink: Man City have always been a bigger club than us , only a Leicester fan would think otherwise .
ithuriel Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 We are a big club, years of under investment have driven a good number of peeps away and it would take us getting into the prem and staying there with continued investment to draw them back and to pull in new fans. At my works one of the day shift shop floor management who used to be Leicester through n through now supports his local village team due to getting disillusioned with city over the past decade. Whether we would ever be a giant is purely down to investment, whether Top and his family have that kind of money we do not know
Guest MattP Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Manchester City said that a few years ago. Is that a joke? Man City were getting 38,000 every week in a dump in the third division.
wattolcfc Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 We are NOT bigger than Man City nor have we ever been BUT I think we could sell out a 40,000 seater in the prem IF we were getting European finishes and good cup runs as we did under O'neill. The reason I think this is that a lot of Asians and foreigners that come to Leicester are glory supporters (this may not go down well with a lot of you, but is true.), so if we were to be winning things I believe a lot of them could be swayed into following City... just an idea though.
B52 Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Is that a joke? Man City were getting 38,000 every week in a dump in the third division. No, they had around 28,000 average. In the eighties they even had below 20,000 average in 88'. But to be fair it seems it differs around 10,000 attending fans between the clubs so an average around 35,000 seems possible.
artursteppe Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I've seen Leicester play Newcastle United in front of less than 15 thousand fans at their place, when we were both in the second tier together. When do we have less than 15 thousand for a league match? I'm quite sure, obviously dependent upon the success of the team and the players on view, that we could average some pretty impressive numbers in the Premiership.
panky and our gang Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Judging by the attendances since we moved to the KP stadium our ground is to big for us already .
Kitchandro Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Judging by the attendances since we moved to the KP stadium our ground is to big for us already . Yes but ffs we've been shit since we've been in this stadium! It makes a big difference if we are doing well and the mood is optimistic. If you're near the bottom of your league or are in the second tier or both you are going to attract less fans than if you are mid-table in the Premiership, obviously.
Fox92 Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 Your not seriously comparing us to Man City are you ? :blink: Man City have always been a bigger club than us , only a Leicester fan would think otherwise . No. I think it came out wrong. You initially posted, we are not a big club and won't sell the stadium out (something along those lines), and I just used Manchester City as an example because look how far they have come. I know they are a bigger club than us, but I don't think any football fan could have imagined what Manchester City are now - if you get me. Is that a joke? Man City were getting 38,000 every week in a dump in the third division. See above. And Maine Road wasn't a dump, it was a nice, old fashioned football ground that added character.
Kitchandro Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 You'd think we were Coventry from some of these posts.
Guest MattP Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 It was fantastic but it was a dump. I admire the optimism but I just can't see us ever getting the attendances to fill this barring a late 90's style economic boom.
Len Finsbury Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 You'd think we were Coventry from some of these posts. We're nearer to Coventry than Man City, club sizewise as well as geographically. The sooner people realise that, the better. This investment may not last forever. Derby, Wolves and Blackburn have all had significant investment over the past twenty years and despite short term success, they haven't really built on it.
Dr The Singh Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 We're nearer to Coventry than Man City, club sizewise as well as geographically. The sooner people realise that, the better. This investment may not last forever. Derby, Wolves and Blackburn have all had significant investment over the past twenty years and despite short term success, they haven't really built on it.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 I think people are missing the point that if we got promoted we wouldn't have to fill the stadium every week. At the minute we have been getting around 22/23k in a 32k stadium, so that's just over two-thirds of capacity. If the capacity was 45k we'd need to get 30k to hit the two-thirds mark. That's only another 7/8k on top of what we get at the minute, add in the people that will jump on the bandwagon on the back of promotion (season ticket sales will certainly increase - look at Derby and Blackpool's increase when they went up and there are others who will only have a season ticket if we're in the Prem), the consistently bigger away followings and the people who pop down just to see a Premiership game and that's easily achievable if not beatable. The expansion will come into it's own for games against United, Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea, because I think it's conceivable that we could sell-out for those games, and then any other important/significant games over the course of the season (a relegation six-pointer, Boxing Day, first game of the season etc) will attract more than usual. Add in a good cup draw and you'd be making more money than you would from a sell-out at 32k, particularly considering we'd have to give the away team 10% of capacity. All in all, over time, and with a few sell-outs a season in which we'd be making 12/13,000 x £25+ more each time, the expansion would pay for itself. Surely it's better to have the seats to fill when needed than to have people left wanting a ticket but not being able to go because of a sell-out. The atmosphere argument is therefore also null and void because the same percentage of the stadium would be as full as it was for the game against Derby and there were no problems there. If they really wanted to the club could keep one stand/section closed for the games that wouldn't attract many people, keeping people closer together. I've never looked at the upper tier of the East Stand at Elland Road and thought 'what a shame that all of those empty seats are ruining the atmosphere'. Top & co - get it done!
wellyfox Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 And when we play the little prem clubs Villa Wigan Everton and Stoke oh and Spurs. We could do half price tickets to fill the ground :crylaugh: :crylaugh:
Fox92 Posted 5 October 2011 Posted 5 October 2011 And when we play the little prem clubs Villa Wigan Everton and Stoke oh and Spurs. We could do half price tickets to fill the ground :crylaugh: :crylaugh: Everton, Tottenham and Aston Villa are not little clubs.
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