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Weale 6 other than a great penalty save, was beaten from long range again. Still in need of a new keeper.

Naughton 6 had better games, but still decent.

PVA 5 decent going forward. Poor final ball.

Bamba 5 not great

Bruma 5 poor, keep your mouth shut when you're on a booking.

Wellens 5 stop the fancy shit, could've put us in trouble twice.

Oakley 5 at fault for their first. Shown more fight than anyone else.

Gally 5 not a centre midfielder, bottles too many tackles

Vassell 8 best player by a distance.

Kamara 7 good to see how direct he was, great a player to have.

Yak 7 hat trick and some good link up play. Loses a Mark for being a twat whilst getting booked in the first half. Wasn't a booking though to be fair.

Posted

Weale - 6 - Saved a penalty but beaten from long range yet again, and also lacks communication. We require a good goalkeeper.

Naughton - 7

Bruma - 3 - You see what the refs like, your on a yellow, why do you do what he did after?

Bamba - 7

Van Aanholt - 7.5

Oakley - 4

Gallagher - 5 - No power in his shots!!

Wellens - 7.5

Vassell - 7.5 - Won most headers, worked hard

Yakubu - 9 - Great poaching

Kamara - 7.5 - Not sure why he was taken off. Great vision at times, and holds the ball up well.

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I wasn't at the game, but from the first 3 posts I'vre noticed that Bert says Oakley showed good fight, then the guy 2 posts down gives him a 4.

Some people are so narrow minded. Everytime he plays, regardless of how well, he gets stick.

Maybe Bert was wrong?

As it was I thought it was a bit of a nothing performance from Oakley. Not particularly good, not particularly bad

Posted

King didn't play then? FML, it was a whole week since he played for his country, so he shouldn't be tired and rested for a game like this.

Posted

King didn't play then? FML, it was a whole week since he played for his country, so he shouldn't be tired and rested for a game like this.

Cause he's been playing virtually every game for the whole season and he's hit a bad run of form. I'm not surprised he was rested.

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Weale - 6

Van Aanholt - 6

Bamba - 6

Bruma - 4

Naughton - 6

Oakley - 3

Wellens - 5

Gallagher - 6

Kamara - 7

Vassell - 7

Yakubu - 8

Subs:

Abe - 5

Vitor - 5

Waghorn - N/A (little playing time)

Sven - 5 (too cautious in his approach after we took the 3-1 lead; lacklustre subs, and two of them came too late)

Posted

Maybe Bert was wrong?

As it was I thought it was a bit of a nothing performance from Oakley. Not particularly good, not particularly bad

Even accepting King's indifferent form I fail to see the sense in using Wellens or Oakley ahead of him unless he's injured. King is by far our best defensive midfielder and passing link from defence to attack even if he doesn't play in his more advanced role. And there's a much better chance of his scoring.

With Wellens and Oakley you're pretty much guaranteed no goals from them and far too many problems at the back. Even in Pearson's time one of the mainstays on many occasions was King's service in defensive situations.

But it's already clear from the reports coming through that this was just one of several problems.

Posted

Cause he's been playing virtually every game for the whole season and he's hit a bad run of form. I'm not surprised he was rested.

Or Svens Seeing how it goes without King... Considering a trade for the Yak??? Just throwing it out there

Posted

It was just as much PVA's fault then Oakley's for the goal, poor ball to him in the first place.

Great to have Yakubu scoring again but regardless of the circumstances you can't concede 3 sloppy goals and expect to win a game.

Posted

I'd give him 1

1 ticket back to West London, goodbye Bruma hello Vitor or Mee from here onwards

Ah, the old 'give players ratings despite not being at the game'.

God you're a tool.

Posted

Or Svens Seeing how it goes without King... Considering a trade for the Yak??? Just throwing it out there

or maybe not.

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Weale- 6

Naughton- 6

Bamba- 6

Bruma- 5

Van Aanholt- 5

Vassell- 6

Oakley- 5

Wellens- 5

Gallagher- 6

Kamara- 7

Yakubu- 7

Posted

Weale - 6 - Beaten from long range again. Decent, but not the answer to the goalkeeping issues long term.

Naughton - 6.5 - Tried hard going forward, and solid defensively. One of our better players.

Bamba - 5.5 - Formed no partnership with Bruma and constantly looked out of position at left centre back. Made of couple of vital blocks/clearances later on.

Bruma - 4 - Poor. No communication, and really struggled with Boro's directness. Lost a point for a stupid sending off.

Van Aanholt - 6.5 - Added some much needed pace and width to the left hand side, but was often starved of the ball. Gave a very good option out left. If Bamba had a left foot, he would have received a lot more ball and been a constant threat rather than the odd threat.

Oakley - 6 - Lost the ball for their first goal. But battled hard, and tried to lead well. Was probably Oakley at his best, which isn't going to be good enough anymore.

Wellens - 6 - Always tried to create as per usual, but got a little too flash at times. Pulled all the strings as per usual, just wasn't as effective as he would have liked.

Gallacher - 6 - Needed more ball to make an impact. Looked like a player playing out of position at first.

Vassell - 7 - Tried hard. Caused problems.

Yakubu - 7.5 - Scored three times, but was still quite poor in general play at times. Although much better than the last few games. He did put some work in off the ball at times, and provided a vital spearhead for our attacks.

Kamara - 7 - Could tell he was new to the squad, not quite on the same level at times. Defintely got ability. Good start.

Posted

I wasn't at the game, but from the first 3 posts I'vre noticed that Bert says Oakley showed good fight, then the guy 2 posts down gives him a 4.

Some people are so narrow minded. Everytime he plays, regardless of how well, he gets stick.

That was my post you were refering too.

Opinions are different in football, thats what makes it a great game, but Oakley offered nothing yet again today.

And I don't give him stick everygame. I don't 'boo' him like the idiots that sit near me at home games.

But, I don't see what he offers that Abe doesn't. I've liked Oakley throughout his career, don't get me wrong, but he doens't get stuck in and on two occasions he backed out of tackles - its not just him but he is supposed to be captain.

Just because the other post gave him higher marks that me doesn't mean I'm narow minded or anything like that, but I don't think he had a good game, hence my 4/10. Basically you are critisizing me because I didn't rate him as high as another post, even though you didn't attend the match. You can't create an opinion, or whatever, based around other posts.

Posted

Oakley played today because King needed a rest for a game.

He's had that and should be back in the first eleven for Burnley.

Posted

King's come on in leaps and bounds and proven a lot of us wrong this year. Happily put my hand up and admit that, Thrac.

But a defensive midfielder of any note he is not.

Posted

Weale - 7 - Back to a reliable keeper, and a penalty save always helps

Naughton - 6 - Not his best game, got forward a lot though

Bamba - 7 - Few pieces of genius

Bruma - 4 - Harshly sent off from a bias ref, a bad day at the office for him

Van Aanholt - 6 - Got forward a lot, and looking slightly more like a younger Ashley Cole

Oakley - 6 - Got stuck into a few more tackles than usual, but sometimes gave the ball away too easily

Wellens - 6 - Almost tried too hard and ended up giving the ball away a lot, but did get forward a fair amount

Gallagher - 5 - Fairly non-existent in his role in a more central position

Kamara - 7 - Showed some Premier League class on his debut

Yakubu - 7 - Scored a hat-trick, but was still quite quiet and sometimes lacked commitment

Vassell - 8 - Ran his socks off for the team, specially when Bruma got sent off and had to play up front on his own. MOTM

Subs

Abe - 6 - Got stuck in, a typical Abe cameo

Vitor - 5 - Didn't do that much, but when called upon, he sorted out the situation

Waghorn - N/A - Not on for long enough

Posted

King's come on in leaps and bounds and proven a lot of us wrong this year. Happily put my hand up and admit that, Thrac.

But a defensive midfielder of any note he is not.

And yet our defence seemed to concede fewer goals when he was there than with Wellens, Oakiey, Abe and now, would anyone believe, Gallagher in the role. King is no tackler but his ability to read the game and cover situations meant we kept chances to a minimum at one stage and that seems far from the case any longer.

Posted

According to stringer...

Coalville town .. 10

Cricket.............. 7

Hinckley............ 4

I wonder how Leicester played

According to Alan Young

Everyone ............ -10

Posted

And yet our defence seemed to concede fewer goals when he was there than with Wellens, Oakiey, Abe and now, would anyone believe, Gallagher in the role. King is no tackler but his ability to read the game and cover situations meant we kept chances to a minimum at one stage and that seems far from the case any longer.

II refuse to believe even you actually think King is a better defensive midfielder than Abe.

Perhaps from the point of view of turning defense into attack, maybe, I'm not sure - I'd say that much would be up for debate. But simply as someone to act as a sweeper behind the attacking unit I think Abe has quite rightly drawn mass plaudits this season for his anticipation, energy and reading of a game.

Claiming King is a better defensive midfielder because he was lucky enough to be playing in front of an established, well versed, well organized back four would be doing a huge injustice to our defensive unit of the time and would be shoveling far more blame away from our current shambles than either deserves.

I desperately wish sometimes you'd be more conservative with your praise for King, because it would be far easier to take your sometimes entirely accurate and definitely justified lauding of him seriously if you didn't view his many flaws through the most rose-tinted glasses I've ever known.

If he was the player you see him to be he'd be playing with Xavi and Iniesta week in, week out, I swear.

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II refuse to believe even you actually think King is a better defensive midfielder than Abe.

Perhaps from the point of view of turning defense into attack, maybe, I'm not sure - I'd say that much would be up for debate. But simply as someone to act as a sweeper behind the attacking unit I think Abe has quite rightly drawn mass plaudits this season for his anticipation, energy and reading of a game.

Claiming King is a better defensive midfielder because he was lucky enough to be playing in front of an established, well versed, well organized back four would be doing a huge injustice to our defensive unit of the time and would be shoveling far more blame away from our current shambles than either deserves.

I desperately wish sometimes you'd be more conservative with your praise for King, because it would be far easier to take your sometimes entirely accurate and definitely justified lauding of him seriously if you didn't view his many flaws through the most rose-tinted glasses I've ever known.

If he was the player you see him to be he'd be playing with Xavi and Iniesta week in, week out, I swear.

Owned, finally? :trumpet:

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