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Nicky Maynard

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STUHILL

STUHILL

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I had to chuckle at that..

Oh man, I see that and I really hope we sign this guy for like 4.8 Million just to piss all these guys off!! Its become more about annoying them than the actual player now hahaha Come on Top!!

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Look at his record for Barcelona B :whistle:

But that's in the Spanish second division, whilst he couldn't score in the first.

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We are in the championship

Do you think that the Championship is as weak as the Spanish second division?

Anyway at 25 and a proven failure in the spanish 1st I really don't see why we'd be interested in him when we hope to be in the Prem next season.

Jimbo

Jimbo

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We are in the championship

There really is a massive difference in the standards. The spanish 2nd division really is quite poor, believe me Iv'e seen quite a few games.

Although saying that, there are, or rather were (I haven't watched a game live for a couple of years now), quite a few good players involved. He might be worth a punt

Happy Fox

Happy Fox

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Do you think that the Championship is as weak as the Spanish second division?

Anyway at 25 and a proven failure in the spanish 1st I really don't see why we'd be interested in him when we hope to be in the Prem next season.

Surely he would be worth the gamble, asking price £2.6 million pounds considerably cheaper than Maynard his goal scoring exploits for Barcelona B over the past two seasons is really good, I would definitely at least consider him :thumbup:

Bagworthblue

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Hello - been reading this and TB for some years but yes i'm new because this is my first post!

I have no ties with the club nor insider info but I hold a senior position within the commercial world so thought i'd share what I am 95% sure is the situation here (although I could be full of .......)

1 - this boring saga is absolutely key to every player being discussed on these forums and key to the entire summers transfer activity. whatever he or anyone says - Sven has a budget to work within - This will consist of the amount he has for both purchase, wages and ancillary costs. They will be separate budgets but they are interrelated. I firmly believe Sven is getting close to spending his budgets and the Maynard saga is impacting further player signatures

2 - Maynard was and is Sven's number 1 target (alongside Matt Mills I would guess) CMS was a fall back option and it would appear City could not protract negotiations for him long enough - i.e keep him dangling until it was fully understood whether NM would sign. Hence his statement he felt wanted by Brighton. He turned down WH to come to us and was probably shocked to find we didn't really want him (offer of low wages / asking him to wait - various ways to put him off / try to keep him dangling) At this point, the NM deal was obviously deemed likely enough to let CMS go. Poor bloke then ended up a Brighton!

3 - LCFC fully believe NM will come to Leicester if BC accept an offer and no prem clubs enter the race- There must have been conversations behind closed doors - Handing in transfers requests opens the door to tapping up allegations etc albeit plenty have taken the risk in the past + NM probably doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy in all of this (and neither do BC)

4 - We have a new negotiation framework now LH has left - more desire to pay more for what is needed - even if perceived to be more than the players market value - speculate to accumulate - raise the threshold of risk

5 - LCFC , conscious that the amount they would have to pay to BC for NM is a major % of their budget and wanting him ahead of the Sweden tour + needing to know what spend would be left for adding the remaining player acquisitions and which players to focus on lead to some pretty (have to say it) desperate negotiation tactics (similar can be said about the Mills signing) Coming back with much improved bids in such a short timescales If I am the BC chairman - I'd keep saying he is not for sale until the bids finally stop and that is where we are at. Now is the waiting game! As the pre-season draws to a close BC / NM will be firming up whether any prem clubs will enter the race. A prem club enables NM to get his dream and BC to sell without losing any face and stay reasonably popular with the fans. If this doesn't happen, NM doesn't sign, BC will likely sell to us for a small additional bid. Chances are our latest bid was rejected but we left it along the lines of - 'well the offer still stands but we won't wait forever'. Problem with the the waiting game is it is probably hampering any further player deals until Sven knows if he will get his man and for how much. We really mustn't offer an improved bid. - not yet or anytime soon as BC have the most to lose (however rich they are - irrelevant - it's business sense - it's what made them rich)!

If all the above is true or close, the Routledge situation could go the same way as the CMS situation - or a punt may be taken that we can get him and Maynard without exceeding budget / or agreement may be sought with the owners to extend the budget - potentially the reason that poor Masiella (forgive spelling) was messed about and sent packing and not signed in addition to Konchesky and why the Hargreaves situation is now 'on ice'.

so will NM come to LCFC?

My prediction - it's in the balance

If a prem club comes in - he will go to them

If not

It depends whether BC hold their nerve too long forcing LCFC to go elsewhere. They may try to push it out to the end of the transfer window. we may have a deadline in mind of a week before the new season starts. We may issue a final ultimatum (please not yet though!)

(I's taken me so long to write this - he's probably blumin signed by now and made me look a right donkey!)

foxoffderby

foxoffderby

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Hello - been reading this and TB for some years but yes i'm new because this is my first post!

I have no ties with the club nor insider info but I hold a senior position within the commercial world so thought i'd share what I am 95% sure is the situation here (although I could be full of .......)

1 - this boring saga is absolutely key to every player being discussed on these forums and key to the entire summers transfer activity. whatever he or anyone says - Sven has a budget to work within - This will consist of the amount he has for both purchase, wages and ancillary costs. They will be separate budgets but they are interrelated. I firmly believe Sven is getting close to spending his budgets and the Maynard saga is impacting further player signatures

2 - Maynard was and is Sven's number 1 target (alongside Matt Mills I would guess) CMS was a fall back option and it would appear City could not protract negotiations for him long enough - i.e keep him dangling until it was fully understood whether NM would sign. Hence his statement he felt wanted by Brighton. He turned down WH to come to us and was probably shocked to find we didn't really want him (offer of low wages / asking him to wait - various ways to put him off / try to keep him dangling) At this point, the NM deal was obviously deemed likely enough to let CMS go. Poor bloke then ended up a Brighton!

3 - LCFC fully believe NM will come to Leicester if BC accept an offer and no prem clubs enter the race- There must have been conversations behind closed doors - Handing in transfers requests opens the door to tapping up allegations etc albeit plenty have taken the risk in the past + NM probably doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy in all of this (and neither do BC)

4 - We have a new negotiation framework now LH has left - more desire to pay more for what is needed - even if perceived to be more than the players market value - speculate to accumulate - raise the threshold of risk

5 - LCFC , conscious that the amount they would have to pay to BC for NM is a major % of their budget and wanting him ahead of the Sweden tour + needing to know what spend would be left for adding the remaining player acquisitions and which players to focus on lead to some pretty (have to say it) desperate negotiation tactics (similar can be said about the Mills signing) Coming back with much improved bids in such a short timescales If I am the BC chairman - I'd keep saying he is not for sale until the bids finally stop and that is where we are at. Now is the waiting game! As the pre-season draws to a close BC / NM will be firming up whether any prem clubs will enter the race. A prem club enables NM to get his dream and BC to sell without losing any face and stay reasonably popular with the fans. If this doesn't happen, NM doesn't sign, BC will likely sell to us for a small additional bid. Chances are our latest bid was rejected but we left it along the lines of - 'well the offer still stands but we won't wait forever'. Problem with the the waiting game is it is probably hampering any further player deals until Sven knows if he will get his man and for how much. We really mustn't offer an improved bid. - not yet or anytime soon as BC have the most to lose (however rich they are - irrelevant - it's business sense - it's what made them rich)!

If all the above is true or close, the Routledge situation could go the same way as the CMS situation - or a punt may be taken that we can get him and Maynard without exceeding budget / or agreement may be sought with the owners to extend the budget - potentially the reason that poor Masiella (forgive spelling) was messed about and sent packing and not signed in addition to Konchesky and why the Hargreaves situation is now 'on ice'.

so will NM come to LCFC?

My prediction - it's in the balance

If a prem club comes in - he will go to them

If not

It depends whether BC hold their nerve too long forcing LCFC to go elsewhere. They may try to push it out to the end of the transfer window. we may have a deadline in mind of a week before the new season starts. We may issue a final ultimatum (please not yet though!)

(I's taken me so long to write this - he's probably blumin signed by now and made me look a right donkey!)

Great read and some very good points made thanks for the insight. I was thinking on the same lines but you've summed it up very well.

Simmo86

Simmo86

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Hello - been reading this and TB for some years but yes i'm new because this is my first post!

I have no ties with the club nor insider info but I hold a senior position within the commercial world so thought i'd share what I am 95% sure is the situation here (although I could be full of .......)

1 - this boring saga is absolutely key to every player being discussed on these forums and key to the entire summers transfer activity. whatever he or anyone says - Sven has a budget to work within - This will consist of the amount he has for both purchase, wages and ancillary costs. They will be separate budgets but they are interrelated. I firmly believe Sven is getting close to spending his budgets and the Maynard saga is impacting further player signatures

2 - Maynard was and is Sven's number 1 target (alongside Matt Mills I would guess) CMS was a fall back option and it would appear City could not protract negotiations for him long enough - i.e keep him dangling until it was fully understood whether NM would sign. Hence his statement he felt wanted by Brighton. He turned down WH to come to us and was probably shocked to find we didn't really want him (offer of low wages / asking him to wait - various ways to put him off / try to keep him dangling) At this point, the NM deal was obviously deemed likely enough to let CMS go. Poor bloke then ended up a Brighton!

3 - LCFC fully believe NM will come to Leicester if BC accept an offer and no prem clubs enter the race- There must have been conversations behind closed doors - Handing in transfers requests opens the door to tapping up allegations etc albeit plenty have taken the risk in the past + NM probably doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy in all of this (and neither do BC)

4 - We have a new negotiation framework now LH has left - more desire to pay more for what is needed - even if perceived to be more than the players market value - speculate to accumulate - raise the threshold of risk

5 - LCFC , conscious that the amount they would have to pay to BC for NM is a major % of their budget and wanting him ahead of the Sweden tour + needing to know what spend would be left for adding the remaining player acquisitions and which players to focus on lead to some pretty (have to say it) desperate negotiation tactics (similar can be said about the Mills signing) Coming back with much improved bids in such a short timescales If I am the BC chairman - I'd keep saying he is not for sale until the bids finally stop and that is where we are at. Now is the waiting game! As the pre-season draws to a close BC / NM will be firming up whether any prem clubs will enter the race. A prem club enables NM to get his dream and BC to sell without losing any face and stay reasonably popular with the fans. If this doesn't happen, NM doesn't sign, BC will likely sell to us for a small additional bid. Chances are our latest bid was rejected but we left it along the lines of - 'well the offer still stands but we won't wait forever'. Problem with the the waiting game is it is probably hampering any further player deals until Sven knows if he will get his man and for how much. We really mustn't offer an improved bid. - not yet or anytime soon as BC have the most to lose (however rich they are - irrelevant - it's business sense - it's what made them rich)!

If all the above is true or close, the Routledge situation could go the same way as the CMS situation - or a punt may be taken that we can get him and Maynard without exceeding budget / or agreement may be sought with the owners to extend the budget - potentially the reason that poor Masiella (forgive spelling) was messed about and sent packing and not signed in addition to Konchesky and why the Hargreaves situation is now 'on ice'.

so will NM come to LCFC?

My prediction - it's in the balance

If a prem club comes in - he will go to them

If not

It depends whether BC hold their nerve too long forcing LCFC to go elsewhere. They may try to push it out to the end of the transfer window. we may have a deadline in mind of a week before the new season starts. We may issue a final ultimatum (please not yet though!)

(I's taken me so long to write this - he's probably blumin signed by now and made me look a right donkey!)

Good post :welcome:

enex

enex

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Nicky Maynard has moved to play down speculation surrounding his future amidst transfer rumours linking the player with a move away from Ashton Gate.

The prolific striker has been heavily linked with a move to both Nottingham Forest and Leicester City this summer, with Sven Goran-Erikson making three bids for the player in an effort to bring Maynard to the Walkers Stadium.

Robins boss Keith Millen has stood firm over the Crewe Alexandra academy graduate thus far though, and now Maynard has spoken on the situation and his commitment to the club during their pre-season tour of Portugal.

"It's just good to be back and enjoying pre-season because I didn't even make the tour last year," he told the official Bristol City website.

"Whatever else happens, happens. I'm happy here playing football and long may it continue. My agent's been in talks with (chairman) Colin Sexstone and (vice chairman) Keith Dawe. Hopefully something will get sorted out sooner rather than later.

"I want what's best for the club and the best for me as well. The sooner it's done the better it will be for both parties."

The news on the 24-year-old comes as a major boost to Robins fans, although things didn't go quite as well on the pitch during the club's first match of pre-season.

City went down to Charlton Athletic 2-1, with Jon Stead scoring the only goal for Millen's side in the second-half. Bradley Wright-Phillips and Johnnie Jackson scored for the Addicks, whilst 22 players got a run out for the Robins.

the sooner he comes to leicester? sounds very vague to me :P

http://www.givemefootball.com/championship/maynard-quashes-robins-exit-rumours

Kent

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I think you should all do what I did about a week ago and stop expecting this to be sorted soon. If he's holding the blue shirt tomorrow I'll eat my words but seriously, it would make this forum much more productive if we accept that, like Bagworthblue said (very well, might I add), this will probably be dragging on for a while yet.

One Arm Babba

One Arm Babba

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I think you should all do what I did about a week ago and stop expecting this to be sorted soon. If he's holding the blue shirt tomorrow I'll eat my words but seriously, it would make this forum much more productive if we accept that, like Bagworthblue said (very well, might I add), this will probably be dragging on for a while yet.

Absolutely. This is like a game of poker. If we kept bouncing a new bid in the day after the previous was rejected they would simply reject to see how far we go. It seems that we are now "looking at other options" but we probably have asked to be kept informed by BCFC. They may well come back to us to negotiate. I think we are in a good position to let this sit for a while.

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