Fans set to boycott the club if Marlon signs

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Being a supporter is much different to being an employee.

The principle is the same though.

[Nick]

Hackney Fox: "No Nick, we read it and chose to ignore it"

No, you read it and you chose to ignore it.

Somebody buy this girl a handbag.

Spend your time working how the reply function works and less time speaking on behalf of the whole forum picking fights and you'll look less of a dick.

[shade]

Let the f***ers stay away. Let the real fans get behind the TEAM.

seriously tho, if he smashed your sister in the face, you would be the first one chanting his name. the guy is vermin.

[hackneyfox]

Hackney Fox: "No Nick, we read it and chose to ignore it"

No, you read it and you chose to ignore it.

Somebody buy this girl a handbag.

Spend your time working how the reply function works and less time speaking on behalf of the whole forum picking fights and you'll look less of a dick.

The irony of your last comment is obviously lost on you.

[Nick]

Ooh get you!

It was just the way you felt the need to re-post as if you were the font of all wisdom.

The irony of your last comment is obviously lost on you.

No irony, your previous 'handbags' post is unquotable due to it being written within mine.

I doubt I'm the font of all wisdom, though having worked with high risk offenders my whole career, I'd imagine I'm better positioned than most to offer some thoughts on the matter rather than the blindly subjective and emotive rhetoric offered by some others.

The reason I re-posted was out of frustration because my post answered points which were still being commented on 10 pages onward.

I thought what you posted wasn't very cool and even more arrogant than how you interpreted the tone of mine, that's all.

[MC Prussian]

Seriously, 13 pages for this hypothetical bullsh*t?

Aren't there more serious problems in the world?

Marlon King hasn't even stated he wants to join us and there's no similar news from our management.

So why bother?

Talking about freedom of speech gone mad.

And the Leicester Mercury can go **** itself and should hold its head in shame for publishing such worthy "news".

Talking about making something up out of nothing. They're quoting - what? - maybe five letters to the paper from "offended" fans?

A disgrace to journalism.

[Babylon]

A disgrace to journalism.

Hardly a surprise that.

[hackneyfox]

Well if there were any truth in the rumours perhaps 13 pages of emotional responses will make the management think again.

[Babylon]

Well if there were any truth in the rumours perhaps 13 pages of emotional responses will make the management think again.

7 pages of which are full of people not caring or willing to give someone a chance, the other 6 full of you and nick arguing!!!

[MC Prussian]

Well if there were any truth in the rumours perhaps 13 pages of emotional responses will make the management think again.

But there isn't. So I don't see what the point of this thread is.

Reminds me a bit of a witch hunt, to be honest.

An angry mob claiming to uphold "family values" and "dignity" and "morale" and all that. They're as bad as the people they're trying to discredit.

And it is in line with other, similar prejudicial behaviour from football fans/people in England (remember the Ricardo situation?).

[Joe.]

But there isn't. So I don't see what the point of this thread is.Reminds me a bit of a witch hunt, to be honest.And it is in line with other, similar prejudicial behaviour from football fans/people in England (remember the Ricardo situation?).

But there is? It's already been confirmed that we've made enquiries. Daft story from the Mercury though, must have been a slow day.

[hackneyfox]

Nick

1. To support an ex-offender in rebuilding their career is positive.

I'd agree had the individual at least admitted his guilt, at that point they can move on and perhaps improve as an individual, King has yet to do this and even attempted to appeal using the 'mistaken id' or race card.

2. To respect the individual on a personal level is choice.

Agreed

3. Not to employ somebody on the basis of having a criminal record for a job not made subject to the '74 Rehabilitation of Offenders Act is unfair.

I'm sure it is but I don't want him at my club and if I was an employer I wouldn't hire someone whose offences are actually getting more violent as he gets older.

I'm all for giving someone a 2nd chance but King is a serial recidivist.

Sorry for being snotty earlier but after giving co* fans grief over their lack of class in excusing his actions I'm saddened to see so many on here do the same, not that you have I hasten to add.

[davieG]

Seriously, 13 pages for this hypothetical bullsh*t?

Aren't there more serious problems in the world?

Marlon King hasn't even stated he wants to join us and there's no similar news from our management.

So why bother?

Talking about freedom of speech gone mad.

And the Leicester Mercury can go **** itself and should hold its head in shame for publishing such worthy "news".

Talking about making something up out of nothing. They're quoting - what? - maybe five letters to the paper from "offended" fans?

A disgrace to journalism.

On the other hand it gives people the chance to air their views on whom they would find acceptable to play for LCFC before the event as most signings are secret until completed.

Who knows maybe LCFC 'suggested' it to the Merc to test the waters

[hackneyfox]

7 pages of which are full of people not caring or willing to give someone a chance, the other 6 full of you and nick arguing!!!

Well half a page

I don't want to give a chance to a piece of work like King, I agree that he was one of the best players we've come up against all season and that he'd score for fun with us, I just don't want him at my club.

[MC Prussian]

But there is? It's already been confirmed that we've made enquiries. Daft story from the Mercury though, must have been a slow day.

The oh-so jolly Mercury claims that we have been "linked" with players like Marlon King.

Hardly a confirmation that we as a club have made enquiries, is it? Eriksson and other representatives have yet to confirm this one-sided story.

Besides, player's agents say a lot of things on long days, especially when they need to suck up to piss-poor and naïve newspapers in order to increase the "value" of their "assets".

[Joe.]

The oh-so jolly Mercury claims that we have been "linked" with players like Marlon King.

Hardly a confirmation that we as a club have made enquiries, is it? Eriksson and other representatives have yet to confirm this one-sided story.

Besides, player's agents say a lot of things on long days, especially when they need to suck up to piss-poor and naïve newspapers in order to increase the "value" of their "assets".

Reading through news stories about it, I'm fairly sure it's more than just idle speculation. They didn't just link him to us, they've said that they understand we're tracking him. It's different. Most of the time they get transfer links either off here or from fly-by stories in the nationals - this isn't like that.

[davieG]

The oh-so jolly Mercury claims that we have been "linked" with players like Marlon King.

Hardly a confirmation that we as a club have made enquiries, is it? Eriksson and other representatives have yet to confirm this one-sided story.

Besides, player's agents say a lot of things on long days, especially when they need to suck up to piss-poor and naïve newspapers in order to increase the "value" of their "assets".

Forums are full of topics of players tenuously linked to football clubs the only difference between them and this is we're not talking about his football ability and whether he's shit or shit hot but it doesn't make it less valid.

How acceptable people are to fans of a club based on their personal life is just as valid as a discussion subject as is whether they are lazy or not.

For a start if Denis Wise ever returned to this club in any capacity my ST would be in the post pronto.

[Guy]

Although I'm not excusing what Marlon did to that women, we all make mistakes in life - even those who think they're perfect do so - and eveyone deserves a second chance. It's all a bit PC "ish" IMO this thread and we should be judging the bloke now for what he does on the pitch, not so much what has happened off it in....what is now in the dim and distant past of 2008. After all he did his time.

I am wondering if this would even have been an issue back in the 80s when the crowd was 95% male (or more!) at most games back then (before all seater stadia came in after Hillsborough tragedy in 1989 which seemed to pave the way for more women to attend). Still, I appreciate that was then, this is now,etc, etc.

[Karljohn]

He's the wrong side of 30, with a questionable injury record. His goalscoring record at Championship level is decent, but nothing special. With the money available to us, I'd like to think we could do better. I'd rather have the Yak plus one of any number of talented younger strikers over King on footballing grounds alone. I reckon either the owners or the manager will draw the same conclusions.

The agents will be buzzing round City like flies around shit during post-season. We'll be an obvious target for Marlon King's people, who will no doubt be feeding the media to boost the guy's profile. An early association with Leicester will no doubt get the attention of clubs that like to take a punt on a temperament like Marlon's while he's a free man transfer.

I don't watch City 'live' these days, so I've already imposed my own boycott of sorts on the club. Having said that, I wouldn't want him to sign on any grounds, footballing or otherwise.

Wise's Footballing Law of Immutability - 'a cúnt will always be a cúnt'

And he's a multimillionaire c**t.

[shen]

Although I'm not excusing what Marlon did to that women, we all make mistakes in life - even those who think they're perfect do so - and eveyone deserves a second chance. It's all a bit PC "ish" IMO this thread and we should be judging the bloke now for what he does on the pitch, not so much what has happened off it in....what is now in the dim and distant past of 2008. After all he did his time.

I am wondering if this would even have been an issue back in the 80s when the crowd was 95% male (or more!) at most games back then (before all seater stadia came in after Hillsborough tragedy in 1989 which seemed to pave the way for more women to attend). Still, I appreciate that was then, this is now,etc, etc.

Well his crimes point towards some serious flaws in his personality. Would he be respected as a member of the team? Would it split the dressing room and create a tense atmosphere? That's something a potential employer is bound to consider too. Unless he had exceptional footballing abilities, I believe that risk isn't worth taking.

Regarding the notion of not judging people on their past, I disagree with that. I think you have to weigh people up and that includes their past as well as present. On the footballing side of it someone like Fryatt looked good before he came here. Then he had a few shit seasons before becoming our top scorer in League 1 and in the Championship the following season. Was he a shit footballer during his bad spell? Was the same player a great striker during his good spell? Or is it fair to look at his whole time here/his whole career to date to make a judgement of him?

[Finnegan]

Bit surprised by your attitude to King's repeat offences, to be honest, Nick.

As I said in another thread, if our club were offering the chance of rehabilitation to someone who had been convicted and severed their sentence, corrected themselves and shown genuine signs of self improvement then I'd celebrate our good grace and I'd hope desperately our fans had the humanity to applaud that.

But we're talking about a thirteen or fourteen time repeat offender. That's not someone who's shown a desire to better himself, that's not someone who's shown an understanding of his past immaturity and looked to put it behind him, it's evidence of a deplorable, base thug with little respect for anything except his own ego.

His latest offence wasn't a freak one off, it was simply a further enforcement of the character he has demonstrated numerous times over his life and career.

Being a professional footballer and a representative of the city of Leicester isn't just "a job." If Marlon King simply wants employment then he can make like the rest of us, piece together a CV and then go and sell himself to the current job market. I'm sure, like the rest of us, he has an education of some sort and qualifications - on some level - with which to do so.

He isn't entitled to play for Leicester, playing for Leicester isn't - and shouldn't be - one of his basic rights. Playing professionally for Leicester (or Coventry, or Bristol, or Manchester, or Barnet, or Bury) should be a privilege and I see no problem what so ever with advocating that people granted such a privilege be not only a good enough player (naturally) but also someone to whom the people of the city can relate and whom they can admire.

I'm not for one moment suggesting that footballers should all be saints or the vision of perfection, that they should be discarded the moment they show any shade of grey in their morality - but there is genuine, mass outcry about us bringing in the likes of King for a very real reason and it's not because we're all stuffy, far-right Conservatives who don't want ex-cons within a hundred miles.

[Kent]

Bit surprised by your attitude to King's repeat offences, to be honest, Nick.

As I said in another thread, if our club were offering the chance of rehabilitation to someone who had been convicted and severed their sentence, corrected themselves and shown genuine signs of self improvement then I'd celebrate our good grace and I'd hope desperately our fans had the humanity to applaud that.

But we're talking about a thirteen or fourteen time repeat offender. That's not someone who's shown a desire to better himself, that's not someone who's shown an understanding of his past immaturity and looked to put it behind him, it's evidence of a deplorable, base thug with little respect for anything except his own ego.

His latest offence wasn't a freak one off, it was simply a further enforcement of the character he has demonstrated numerous times over his life and career.

Being a professional footballer and a representative of the city of Leicester isn't just "a job." If Marlon King simply wants employment then he can make like the rest of us, piece together a CV and then go and sell himself to the current job market. I'm sure, like the rest of us, he has an education of some sort and qualifications - on some level - with which to do so.

He isn't entitled to play for Leicester, playing for Leicester isn't - and shouldn't be - one of his basic rights. Playing professionally for Leicester (or Coventry, or Bristol, or Manchester, or Barnet, or Bury) should be a privilege and I see no problem what so ever with advocating that people granted such a privilege be not only a good enough player (naturally) but also someone to whom the people of the city can relate and whom they can admire.

I'm not for one moment suggesting that footballers should all be saints or the vision of perfection, that they should be discarded the moment they show any shade of grey in their morality - but there is genuine, mass outcry about us bringing in the likes of King for a very real reason and it's not because we're all stuffy, far-right Conservatives who don't want ex-cons within a hundred miles.

Romantic sentiments but unfortunately football is largely a results based business (as I'm sure you know). I do, however, agree with a lot of what you say. Shame but it'll probably always be that way.

[Finnegan]

Romantic sentiments but unfortunately football is largely a results based business (as I'm sure you know). I do, however, agree with a lot of what you say. Shame but it'll probably always be that way.

There are hundreds and thousands of footballers to pick from. It's not like he's Christiano Ronaldo, he's a fairly average player that's fairly handy at this level.

If we believe that Marlon King is the only way we can deliver results then Jesus Christ, I fear for next year.

[Kent]

There are hundreds and thousands of footballers to pick from. It's not like he's Christiano Ronaldo, he's a fairly average player that's fairly handy at this level.

If we believe that Marlon King is the only way we can deliver results then Jesus Christ, I fear for next year.

I agree and I can think of a lot of other players I would prefer to see at the club, I just wouldn't be particularly surprised if we went in for him.

[Finnegan]

I agree and I can think of a lot of other players I would prefer to see at the club, I just wouldn't be particularly surprised if we went in for him.

Oh, no, I think it's immensely believable that he may sign.