To the Wellens doubters....

[marbelladave]

The bloke can do nothing right, obviously...

People forget that football is a team game, but if you want to talk about individual performances today he was the second best player behind Fernandes and also delivered the cross for the goal.

Typical Leicester fans, always looking to moan about something.

Looks like Richie will be the scapegoat this year. Shame we can't all just support the team rather than single out individuals to criticise every season.

To be fair, Wellens has polarised opinions on here for sometime.

His purple patch in Jan/Feb last season coincided with a string of easy games and an unbeaten run, when we had to play the better teams in the last couple of months of the season he pretty much disappeared so he does have 'form'.

Flat track bully for me.....

[stu]

@ stu

He wasn't the 2nd best that's between Yuki or Bamba, nobody is moaning about his performance its just the OP is going on like he ran the show today when he didn't.

Just did a decent job with a good free kick for the goal!

I think that the OP is trying to point out that he has come under some harsh criticism in a number of threads that have appeared over the last few weeks, and I agree.

Every player will have good and bad games, but one player will not affect the outcome of a game as ultimately the team will have earned whatever the result.

What is the point of picking out scapegoats? It happens every bloody season and does nothing except possibily affecting the morale of the players involved.

Get behind the team, that is all...

[Stand UP...]

Well obviously. Fernandes was our best player............

fernandez was a legend out there, constantly looking for the ball, constantly looking for a forward player, constantly encouraging the leicester lads and commanding the game, i can tell you now without him it would have been 0-0 at best, he is the new viera without dought.

[cc_star]

Abe and Fernandez gave Wellens the freedon of the park today and he still created next to nothing, I find that pretty worrying....

I don't think Danns was that good today but he started out wide right, then had to try and play the support role for our lone striker, neither exactly his regular position. He tried to do a job for the team and was just about ok, no more.

Bit worrying that Sven is already trying to get 4 central midfielders into a 4-3-3.......

Put it down to Sven wanting to keep it tight in a difficult away fixture which is also why he never played the lightweights King & Gally,

but really it highlights we don't have the forward players to play 4-3-3

Howard couldn't play 90 at this level, he doesn't rate Waggy, Vassell never does anything ever other than dribble into trouble or the corner flag & Gally seems a bit wasted to me pushed out wide not in the position to dink throughballs to a goal scorer or take longer range shots from the edge of the 18yrd box himself.

I'm still to be convinced by this formation, but I'm more baffled why we're playing it without the players to play it

Still, as long we keep picking up the points, my personal bafflement won't turn into anything more.

Up the :sge: & up the city

[ajthefox]

Where and who are all these Wellens doubters anyway?

It annoys me that the OP, amongst others it has to be said, (not just on this instance, but with other players too) makes it out as if there's some sort of "I hate Richie Wellens" bandwagon just to try make themselves feel better about being up Wellens' arse. Stop acting as if everyone hates him, they plainly don't, some just rate him more than others.

As for his performance today? Well I don't even think you have a point. He was average and best and why you think today has proved anything is beyond me.

I like Wellens and would've preferred him to Captain then Mills by a long shot but as I said, today was not a display worth shouting about. Fernandes was a class above him.

[FoxesFan100]

Personally I rate Wellens as one of the better mid-fielders at the club, I may get slated for that but that's just my opinion, however i can't comment of todays performance, but he sounded fairly good. However it would seem Fernandez had a better game.

I would like to say some people find him over-rated others think he's one our better mid-fielders (me) but everyone should be allowed an opinion and not get put down because they differ, but yeah thats all. No real in-put but thats my little essay over

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Where and who are all these Wellens doubters anyway?

It annoys me that the OP, amongst others it has to be said, (not just on this instance, but with other players too) makes it out as if there's some sort of "I hate Richie Wellens" bandwagon just to try make themselves feel better about being up Wellens' arse. Stop acting as if everyone hates him, they plainly don't, some just rate him more than others.

As for his performance today? Well I don't even think you have a point. He was average and best and why you think today has proved anything is beyond me.

I like Wellens and would've preferred him to Captain then Mills by a long shot but as I said, today was not a display worth shouting about. Fernandes was a class above him.

Try telling that to Ric Unflair anf Hackneyd Fox !

[Daggers]

Try telling that to Ric Unflair anf Hackneyd Fox !

Put the blue drink down and step away from the keyboard.

[Rt Hon Percy Longprong]

If you were going to make the tiresome, and terribly unoriginal, play of going for the group onanism thing -> then it would be 'mass debater'. It still wouldn't be funny because it is dull and obvious.

How the frig has a tool your size, larger than a 1/2" torque wrench, not made it onto my block list before this moment? If only your real tool was as big as your online persona.

[Yojoe36]

Wellens faked injury a bit, and made the tackle which got their player sent off look worse than it was (Good )

But he's had better days

[John Matrix]

[Ric Flair]

I thought he made a meal out of that challenge but to be fair he's pretty much won us the game with the sending off and then his free-kick on to Peltier's bonce. 2nd half he got far more influential.

With competition for places it might be the kick up the arse that Ritchie sometimes needs, let's just hope he doesn't roll about on the floor too much.

So far so good.

[Messi]

I don't understand why so many people are on Wellens' back?

In my opinion, he is our best player, creative, gets stuck in and shows a lot of passion. Him, Yuki and Fernandez were great in the middle of the park today and we didn't really miss King at all. But just before King scores goals everyone loves him.

[Messi]

Edit: Just because*

[Burmesefox]

They were pears and he played like he had a pair....

Went down like a girl to get Baker sent off and despite his usual bluff and bluster created nothing of note in open play.

Fernandez and Abe did most of the donkey work giving Wellens the freedom of the park and he did absolutely bugger all bar slow the play down with his showboating then try to play clever balls into a well set defence.

Typical Wellens performance in fact....

Fooool. The ref was giving every single tap as a free kick and wellens "gamesmanship" won us the game as it then meant 10 v 10 - that's experience for you. he played very very well nd yes fernadez was the MOTM but Richie more than played his part. he slowed teh game down in teh last 10 mins and that is prefessionalism.

[Fox92]

Easily our best player over the last 2 seasons.

Would go as far as saying he's our best player.

Totally agree with you there.

And why are people moaning about how he went down to get their man sent off? You should be glad he did that. Yes, Wellens did get him sent off but that is what he does, he does wind players up anyway, I like it. It was only the same as the Vassell challenge, their man went down and then got straight back up.

I can't believe people are talking about how he went down.

[Izzet is God]

I thought he had a good game, bearing in mind he was less than impressive against Madrid the week before.

As for the sending off, I would of done exactly the same thing...the challenge was rash and came in from behind/side depending on view and was far worse than Vassell's. I'd rather have Wellens playing for us, rather then against with him winding us up!

[Greg2607]

Yeah......your obviously the MASTEBATER of them all !

There should be a new rule on here. If you can't spell the abuse, don't bother writing it!!

[Guest Col city fan]

I usually agree with Marbella dave but this time you are miles off mate... The midfield three, as I've alluded to earlier, worked very well together today, with Abe and Gelson winning the ball and giving it to wellens. Simple as really... The game plan worked. But it was Richie pulling the strings all the time, slowing down play when he needed to, keeping the ball, rarely giving a single pass away. Wellens MOTM by a country mile today.. He simply ran the midfield.

[Guest ttfn]

Wellens MOTM by a country mile today.. He simply ran the midfield.

I think you'd struggle to find 10 people that agree that Wellens was the best player on the pitch today.

He certainly didn't run the midfield either. Coventry had control of the midfield for at least 45 minutes to an hour today. Agree with ajthefox, why would you choose this game as an example of how important Wellens is?

Not really got a problem with Wellens, but he'd be well behind Fernandes, King and a fit Michael Johnson for me. Possibly Danns too. Way too inconsistent.

By the way, OP, if you have a (reasonably valid) point to make, don't make it like a complete berk and people might be more inclined to have a rational debate about it. Not that that was what you were after of course.

[Simmo86]

I'm sorry you can't give Wellens MOTM for yesterday. Gelson was head and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch.

Let's not forget while Wellens play acting might of got Baker sent off, it was Gelson's 60 yard dash to cover in the centre back which led to Baker making the challenge!

[Simmo86]

*centre back position

[B52]

Wellens is our own Ronaldo or Zlatan....

[marbelladave]

Put it down to Sven wanting to keep it tight in a difficult away fixture which is also why he never played the lightweights King & Gally,

but really it highlights we don't have the forward players to play 4-3-3

Howard couldn't play 90 at this level, he doesn't rate Waggy, Vassell never does anything ever other than dribble into trouble or the corner flag & Gally seems a bit wasted to me pushed out wide not in the position to dink throughballs to a goal scorer or take longer range shots from the edge of the 18yrd box himself.

I'm still to be convinced by this formation, but I'm more baffled why we're playing it without the players to play it

Still, as long we keep picking up the points, my personal bafflement won't turn into anything more.

Up the :sge: & up the city

Hopefully you are right, as I said before the game i feel there must be a damn good midfield in there somewhere but we did not see it yesterday.

We won primarily because of a very solid back 5 and the excellence of Fernandez, I thought the shape and teamplay in midfield was poor, we just had better players who bullied their way to a victory, bit like the League 1 season I thought.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but we will need to be much more together and organised if we are going to bother the top 2.

Still, first game of the season and all that.....

I don't understand why so many people are on Wellens' back?

In my opinion, he is our best player, creative, gets stuck in and shows a lot of passion. Him, Yuki and Fernandez were great in the middle of the park today and we didn't really miss King at all. But just before King scores goals everyone loves him.

Some perspective here, none of our midfield players (even Wellens) played badly, it was just that for all the hussle and hard work put in by everyone, there was remarkably little end product. One goal from a set piece, two decent chances for Nugent and that was pretty much it though King and Fernandez made (half) chances for themselves.

Fooool. The ref was giving every single tap as a free kick and wellens "gamesmanship" won us the game as it then meant 10 v 10 - that's experience for you. he played very very well nd yes fernadez was the MOTM but Richie more than played his part. he slowed teh game down in teh last 10 mins and that is prefessionalism.

As I said in another thread, the ref was poor, but Wellens did get Baker sent off as I said, I didn't moan about it, just pointed it out. What I do find a little disturbing is that despite (supposedly) having a strong midfield and being one of the favourites for promotion it took some pretty obvious gamesmanship for us to beat a pretty poor Coventry side.

Your final point is true though, Wellens always slows the game up, it is one of the worst parts of his game!

There should be a new rule on here. If you can't spell the abuse, don't bother writing it!!

Can't do that, wouldn't get any replies to my posts....

I usually agree with Marbella dave but this time you are miles off mate... The midfield three, as I've alluded to earlier, worked very well together today, with Abe and Gelson winning the ball and giving it to wellens. Simple as really... The game plan worked. But it was Richie pulling the strings all the time, slowing down play when he needed to, keeping the ball, rarely giving a single pass away. Wellens MOTM by a country mile today.. He simply ran the midfield.

Noooo! This is where we disagree, the amount of effort our midfield put in we should have dominated Coventry but for large parts of the game this was not the case.

Where you are correct is that Abe and Fernandez gave Wellens acres of space on the ball but his play was all show and one set piece apart no end product. Slowing the game down when we should have been chasing a second goal is typical Wellens, completely non productive, some people see that, some don't....

[Fox92]

I think you'd struggle to find 10 people that agree that Wellens was the best player on the pitch today.

He certainly didn't run the midfield either. Coventry had control of the midfield for at least 45 minutes to an hour today. Agree with ajthefox, why would you choose this game as an example of how important Wellens is?

Not really got a problem with Wellens, but he'd be well behind Fernandes, King and a fit Michael Johnson for me. Possibly Danns too. Way too inconsistent.

So, you are saying Wellens is inconsistent but King isn't

Why would Wellens be behind Fernandes, King, Johnson (who hasn't played for us yet) and Danns? Wellens is our most agressive midfielder, he has more creativity than the rest (hence he had most assists last season), he doesn't back out of tackles (where as Gallagher and King do for example) while his passing, skill and especially crossing are top quality.

I think we would generally miss him if we didn't have him, and I'd rather have him in our side than any other teams. Don't people study what he does? Some of his passes are beautiful. The only attribute he misses is most probably scoring, but thats not his job.

A little bit of consistancy from Wellens, and he could easily do a decent job in the Premier League, hence why Birmingham were looking at him last season.