whitwickfox Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 I don't like "the managers lost the dressing room " but I get the feeling that alls not well within, which is probably why Pearson is sticking with the old guard. Watching him last sat gave the impression of I've given up with some/all of these players, and just seemed to be going through the motions hence leaving Beckford on the bench most of the game. I also understand the players were in Sunday training which is strange saying they have forest tue night. And finally to quash any fears about top not being around, isnt the new year celebrated in that part of the world about now
EnderbyFox Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 Pearson always seems to hug Beckford when he comes off the pitch so i don't think theres an issue there As for training on a Sunday, after Saturdays perfomance i'd want them training every day untill there was improvements! Apart from Wellens and Koncheskey of course
cc_star Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 I don't like "the managers lost the dressing room " but I get the feeling that alls not well within, which is probably why Pearson is sticking with the old guard. Watching him last sat gave the impression of I've given up with some/all of these players, and just seemed to be going through the motions hence leaving Beckford on the bench most of the game. I also understand the players were in Sunday training which is strange saying they have forest tue night. And finally to quash any fears about top not being around, isnt the new year celebrated in that part of the world about now He's sticking with the so called old guard because Sousa & Sven haven't satisfactory replaced them, which is why both of them also kept turning to them... . We having to play a system which doesn't really work with players, some of whom need improving because there isn't a whole host of options. He's tried 442, 532, 451 & settled on 433 because the less midfielders picked the better as Wellens, King, Danns, Abe, Johnson are collectively not good enough. I don't think generally playing Danns, & then dropping Wellens for a few weeks & playing Abe until the 1st half nightmare at Forest is "sticking with the old guard" It's more a case of needs, must. (unfortunately)
Collymore Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 I really think he's going to have to hammer the loan market and concentrate on rebuilding the team permanently in the summer. I think it's a case of two steps back and then jump on one of those escalators at the airport. Please whatever you do Nigel, don't panic buy in the next couple of weeks.
Gold Coast Fox Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 Give him time and he will sort it, i don't like his style but we all know what he can achieve, if we have to wait til next season then so be it. Lets not become a revolving door club again.
Kitchandro Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 So basically Pearson will have to do what Sven did in the summer - buy a whole new team which will take time to 'gel' and by October we'll already be well off the pace. Then it will become clear that some of these players can't handle the pressure/don't care. And maybe Pearson will be sacked. And will we have wingers by then? We need to get some permanents in and use the rest of the season to prepare for next season. If we improve significantly before the end of the season then all the better. We don't need to panic buy as such but we aren't really in a position to pay under the odds for quality players, no or next season. If Pearson can make some inroads into solving the midfield problem then maybe we can have a good reason to be positive about the future.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Give him time and he will sort it, i don't like his style but we all know what he can achieve, if we have to wait til next season then so be it. Lets not become a revolving door club again. You are dreaming if you yjink we will gain promotion next season. Every season, someone says this.
BlueBlue Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Give him time and he will sort it, i don't like his style but we all know what he can achieve, if we have to wait til next season then so be it. Lets not become a revolving door club again. Here, here! I think Sven was outed too early, but what's done is done. Pearson should be given the chance to sort it out without all the spurious speculationabout the dressing room, the owners and people trying to put words into his mouth. He proved both here, the 1st time and at Hull that he is a good manager. He may fail this time, but ought to be given the chance to build a team again.
Kilworthfox Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I don't like "the managers lost the dressing room " but I get the feeling that alls not well within, The only problem Nigel has is, that the vast majority of the players he has are not good enough to live up to the expectations placed upon them buy the big spending board. Sven mainly brought in players who were no better than the ones we already had in positions we didn't need cover for, & did not get any (Kasper aside) quality players in for positions which we needed a first team player for - wingers, wide midfielders, call them what you want! Now Nigel has no faith in his 4-4-2. Give him time & let him assemble his side for next season & we can start a fresh this August!
artursteppe Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 There is only one problem with Pearson......................He doesn't have a clue!
Raj Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 He knew what he was getting himself into when he returned He knew what Sven had left and he knew what the owners wanted of him. If the delusions of Grandeur statement was a dig at the owners,he should be sacked. If it was at the players,fair enough. BUT its upto hims and his players and staff to sort it out. The fans support the team by showing up. If they do well,they will reap the rewards. If they do crap,they will hear about it. Man up or fcuk off!
fosseman Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Why the debate about "delusions"? Far too deep analysis of Nige's words. Let him get on with job.
artursteppe Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Let's be clear - the best Wellens. King, Gallagher and Dyer have ever been is average. That is the best they have ever been! Usually they are rubbish. When they play together, they constitute the worst midfield in the league, without doubt. Sven picked them too often, the caretakers only picked them, and until the few games prior to the Barnsley game Nigel preferred them as well. Our worst performances are always using all or most of this embarrassing bunch of rubbish. The only time they did a reasonable job was in league 1, that is a fact. There are a lot of Leicester fans who need to get real and face facts. I have been 'banging this same drum' for two or three seasons now. Mainly about King, Wellens and Gallagher playing together. I was right then, I am right now and you may as well get used to it I will be right again tomorrow. We will not progress, at least at anywhere near the pace we would all like to progress, until all those players have been moved on. My fear is that Pearson will not do this. The good news is, you see I am an optimist, that Pearson will not do this, we will not progress ( at least as much as we need to ) and Pearson will be sacked. Then all we have to hope for is that the next manager gets rid of King, Wellens, Gallagher and Dyer!
Raj Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Why the debate about "delusions"? Far too deep analysis of Nige's words. Let him get on with job. If he wants the fans on his side and the abcking of the players and owners he should schose his words carefully. Sven signed some duds but the team Pearson uses still includes Casper,Bamba,Mills,Pelts,Danns,Konchesky,Nugent,Becks....all most would agree(except Mills and Becks!) have done better than Pearsons midfiled(Gally,Wellens,King) You knew the score whan you accepted the million pounds a year wages,get on with the job. If its too big for you,Bye Bye!
Happy Fox Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Let's be clear - the best Wellens. King, Gallagher and Dyer have ever been is average. That is the best they have ever been! Usually they are rubbish. When they play together, they constitute the worst midfield in the league, without doubt. Sven picked them too often, the caretakers only picked them, and until the few games prior to the Barnsley game Nigel preferred them as well. Our worst performances are always using all or most of this embarrassing bunch of rubbish. The only time they did a reasonable job was in league 1, that is a fact. There are a lot of Leicester fans who need to get real and face facts. I have been 'banging this same drum' for two or three seasons now. Mainly about King, Wellens and Gallagher playing together. I was right then, I am right now and you may as well get used to it I will be right again tomorrow. We will not progress, at least at anywhere near the pace we would all like to progress, until all those players have been moved on. My fear is that Pearson will not do this. The good news is, you see I am an optimist, that Pearson will not do this, we will not progress ( at least as much as we need to ) and Pearson will be sacked. Then all we have to hope for is that the next manager gets rid of King, Wellens, Gallagher and Dyer! I totally agree with you, NP's future is determined on getting rid of the deadwood midfield if he doesn't then he will be sacked.
burni Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I think you maybe right in that some of the players maybe a little unsettled, not surprising when were doing bad with high expectations and pressure. However I think with the way nigel is he wont have lost the dressing room, hes a strong character from what people have said such as an interview with that guy he played with. I believe the players know hes boss and wouldn't dare challenge that, the players will have their sulks quietly and get on with it as thats their only option. I think the fact hes subs beckford is a message that hes not proved a starting place in the team, although it is possible he may come back in as options are short. Nigel is the man to sort them out and isnt afraid of making changes should he think it benificial. Personally i would love to see nigel get to see out his full contract as we only seem to judge people short term (less than a season) and when nigel was here previously he showed he can get a good team together and with more money this time round do the same with a bit more quality to deliver automatics. This is not likely to be achieved short term though but without getting off topic i think he showed here before and at hull hes the boss and he can get a good mentality in the team.
yorkie1999 Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I'm behind pearson 100%. He didn't ask to come here, we asked him to give up a side that he built at hull who are doing very well with not a lot of money and its going to take a year to sort out our side. The least we can do is stick with him. I can't believe some of the thick moronic numpties asking for him to be sacked after a dozen games!! Probably the same p*ssed up twats who only know 2 lines of when you're smiling.
ithuriel Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 There is only one problem with Pearson......................He doesn't have a clue!
Babylon Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Let's be clear - the best Wellens. King, Gallagher and Dyer have ever been is average. That is the best they have ever been! Usually they are rubbish. When they play together, they constitute the worst midfield in the league, without doubt. Sven picked them too often, the caretakers only picked them, and until the few games prior to the Barnsley game Nigel preferred them as well. Our worst performances are always using all or most of this embarrassing bunch of rubbish. The only time they did a reasonable job was in league 1, that is a fact. There are a lot of Leicester fans who need to get real and face facts. I have been 'banging this same drum' for two or three seasons now. Mainly about King, Wellens and Gallagher playing together. I was right then, I am right now and you may as well get used to it I will be right again tomorrow. We will not progress, at least at anywhere near the pace we would all like to progress, until all those players have been moved on. My fear is that Pearson will not do this. The good news is, you see I am an optimist, that Pearson will not do this, we will not progress ( at least as much as we need to ) and Pearson will be sacked. Then all we have to hope for is that the next manager gets rid of King, Wellens, Gallagher and Dyer! I bet he can construct a decent sentence though.
blueharmie Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 gally wellens and king- do us all of favour and piss off. not needed here anymore and your not very good.
deep blue Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 gally wellens and king- do us all of favour and piss off. not needed here anymore and your not very good. Gally, Wellens,King & Dyer were a pretty good midfield for us 2 years ago. They don't need total replacement. OK, Wellens' legs have lost a bit in those 2 years, but I think the main problem has been the disruption caused by the different managers, finally resulting in a massive lack of confidence and team ethic. We do need some variety - a stronger presence and wingers - but I think a bit of freshening up will bring back the form to these players. I'm (fairly) confident that NP will sort this, but he may have difficulty in doing anything other than a partial job in this transfer window.
artursteppe Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Gally, Wellens,King & Dyer were a pretty good midfield for us 2 years ago. They don't need total replacement. OK, Wellens' legs have lost a bit in those 2 years, but I think the main problem has been the disruption caused by the different managers, finally resulting in a massive lack of confidence and team ethic. We do need some variety - a stronger presence and wingers - but I think a bit of freshening up will bring back the form to these players. I'm (fairly) confident that NP will sort this, but he may have difficulty in doing anything other than a partial job in this transfer window. Sorry, but they were just about ok in league 1. They are not good enough at this level and never will be. For Pearson to keep his job he must do something about them, and time is already running out for him. If we do not reach the top six this year Pearson will be out and if King, Wellens, Dyer and Gallagher play too many matches in the next four months we will not get into the top six. That is just the way it is.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Sorry, but they were just about ok in league 1. They are not good enough at this level and never will be. For Pearson to keep his job he must do something about them, and time is already running out for him. If we do not reach the top six this year Pearson will be out and if King, Wellens, Dyer and Gallagher play too many matches in the next four months we will not get into the top six. That is just the way it is. I dont agree with you at all (surprise surprise) I doubt Pearson will get the chop if we don´t get top six this season. I think even the owners realise what a fook up Sven made of everything and even they will give Pearson the summer to rebuild the squad. If he then fails to get results I´m sure he´ll be out. But not until IMO.
deep blue Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 Sorry, but they were just about ok in league 1. They are not good enough at this level and never will be. For Pearson to keep his job he must do something about them, and time is already running out for him. If we do not reach the top six this year Pearson will be out and if King, Wellens, Dyer and Gallagher play too many matches in the next four months we will not get into the top six. That is just the way it is. The team finished 5th in the Championship with those 4 in midfield. That's the way it is!
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