martin7 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 I as many other leicester fans are disappointed with leicester inconsistent season but we have to look on the bright side we are in the quarters of the FA. I feel it is a long term project with leicester and man city took a couple of seasons to get going after their money spend. There's no way we should get rid of pearson as some on radio leicester suggested after the game.I feel he is the right man to lead leicester to the prem. what do the rest of lcfc feel?
foxfanazer Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Totally agree! Would be massively disappointed if we got rid of him. Also not sure who would want the job with this revolving door of managers we have at the moment
Libertine Dream Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Of course we've got to keep NP, anybody who thinks otherwise hasn't got a clue.
dave the caveman Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Of course we should keep him for now, but if hasn't fixed the inconsistency problem by Christmas he never will, and he should be removed at that point should we get there. I have utmost faith in np but he's been back sometime now, it's about time we started to see some real improvement.
Raw Dykes Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 I agree. I'm sure we have the manager who will build a squad capable of promotion. I think it's clear he knows that there's more to building a team than just buying good players. He knows you have to find a group of players who can work together. I hope the owners understand that these things take time, and chopping and changing the manager too often (a la Chelsea) doesn't get you anywhere.
MrSpaM Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 As other posters have said, you'd have to be insane to think about getting rid of Pearson, I do fear however that if were not sitting in at least the top 3 by November next season he'll get the axe. Our owners will be looking for a top 2 finish next season and nothing else, think it's pretty much going to be make or break.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Totally agree with all of this.... He built a good side at Hull with far less cash available to him and that took him over a year. I appreciate the inconsistencies are still there but difficult to majorly change a team through the middle of a season when he's only had January to sign players. I would guess we'll ship out some of the remaining dead wood in the summer (Weale, Panstil, Oakley, Howard, Moussa, Tunchev etc) and probably buy 3/4 players at most rather than ANOTHER big overhaul.
Walker Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 This topic really isn't up for debate, is it? Those who want Pearson out at this stage can fvck off!
Corky Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Who has suggested he should go? I haven't seen it on here in any great quantity.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 This topic really isn't up for debate, is it? Those who want Pearson out at this stage can fvck off! Agreed! Well said
cc_star Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Keep Pearson? Eh? Where was the people wanting him removed after 7 wins in last 10 with 5 clean sheets prior to last night? Fickle tw@ts He's got until international breaks next October, unless he loses every game from now until the end of the season, which of course he won't.
Ricey Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Who has suggested he should go? I haven't seen it on here in any great quantity. I don't think anyone wants him to go, they just fear that the owners might lose patience. IF the owners decide to get rid of Pearson in the summer, or even before Xmas, I'd seriously worry about their capabilities to run the club. Pearson needs time to build and shape the team to his liking, that won't happen overnight and I just really hope the owners give him time to do that.
iamafox Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 I don't see any point in getting rid of Pearson, give him time and he will turn things around.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Np will get it right. Maybe not this season but i now can't wait for next. He should have all of next season.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 No one wants him to go. There are no signs showing he's going. This is a long term project and Nigel Pearson is probably the only manager i'd want at the helm as we try to break into the prem next season.
Heskey2011 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Love this, it's amazing how bias people are, we have been rubbish all season, firstly with one of the most experienced managers around in Sven and then with relative unknown NP. Why people think that the ex lazio / England manager wouldn't be good enough for us and NP will be is ridiculous. What has Pearson actually done.... won the L1 trophy (our lowest league finish ever) and... nowt, how do we expect him to manage the players Sven brought in, he seems to have worked wonders with Beckford but you have to ask... how can Matt Mills, Reading player of the year and probably the best cb in the league (last year) be not good enough for this team. And now the Leeds loan (it's DJ all over again) Don't get me wrong I’m a Pearson fan, honestly love his character, comes across really well in interview, talks sense and is forming a good team unity/spirit, a 'proper manager'. Most people of FT slagged off Sven and i think we're about one or two more defeats away from being in the same boat with NP, in my eyes it's the same old Sun /NOTW opinions from Svens old England days. However when NP underperforms people back him! Does no one remember the excitement when Sven came to town, brought some quality players in and created a massive buzz around the team and put the club back on the map. Can’t see us getting promoted anytime soon and even if we did NP would be replaced as he has no premier experience and it’s too much of a risk to say give him a go and if we’re in relegation by xmas change things. Top and co have spent a lot of money already and will have to spend more to get /keep us in premier league football I can’t believe that they would keep NP and expect him to be able to do that.
Heskey2011 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 That should put the cat amongst the pigeons Short term i don't want to change our manager. NP should keep his job i'm just questioning the motives
jonlcfc1990 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Love this, it's amazing how bias people are, we have been rubbish all season, firstly with one of the most experienced managers around in Sven and then with relative unknown NP. Why people think that the ex lazio / England manager wouldn't be good enough for us and NP will be is ridiculous. What has Pearson actually done.... won the L1 trophy (our lowest league finish ever) and... nowt, how do we expect him to manage the players Sven brought in, he seems to have worked wonders with Beckford but you have to ask... how can Matt Mills, Reading player of the year and probably the best cb in the league (last year) be not good enough for this team. And now the Leeds loan (it's DJ all over again) Don't get me wrong I’m a Pearson fan, honestly love his character, comes across really well in interview, talks sense and is forming a good team unity/spirit, a 'proper manager'. Most people of FT slagged off Sven and i think we're about one or two more defeats away from being in the same boat with NP, in my eyes it's the same old Sun /NOTW opinions from Svens old England days. However when NP underperforms people back him! Does no one remember the excitement when Sven came to town, brought some quality players in and created a massive buzz around the team and put the club back on the map. Can’t see us getting promoted anytime soon and even if we did NP would be replaced as he has no premier experience and it’s too much of a risk to say give him a go and if we’re in relegation by xmas change things. Top and co have spent a lot of money already and will have to spend more to get /keep us in premier league football I can’t believe that they would keep NP and expect him to be able to do that. Maybe you should ask Matt Mills why he isn't good enough for the team? Have you honestly seen a performance from him this season that would make him our player of the year? Or even player of the match?
Kitchandro Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Love this, it's amazing how bias people are, we have been rubbish all season, firstly with one of the most experienced managers around in Sven and then with relative unknown NP. Why people think that the ex lazio / England manager wouldn't be good enough for us and NP will be is ridiculous. What has Pearson actually done.... won the L1 trophy (our lowest league finish ever) and... nowt, NO. If you'll cast your mind back to the following season you'll remember he got us into the play-offs on the back of that promotion. Which no other bastard has done for ages. Sven didn't do it. In fact when he was with us we were never in the play-off places once. No we didn't get promoted in the end but it was still an impressive achievement. I didn't back Sven because I had no faith in him. He'd shown tactical ineptness throughout his time with us and we were not doing the job after a year in charge. But I WAS backing him in March last year. So the comparison is unfair. If we we are still playing like this is in November 2012 you will be getting some different reactions from people. We have made progress in recent weeks, at the end of Sven's reign we were getting worse. It doesn't matter what he achieved before he came to us, we don't get any extra points for that do we? And Mills is shit. He's an average player with a shitty, arrogant attitude. We should be getting rid ASAP. Unless he shows some true remorse and knuckles down. And even if he does, I don't rate him higher than any of our other centre backs.
MrSpaM Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Love this, it's amazing how bias people are, we have been rubbish all season, firstly with one of the most experienced managers around in Sven and then with relative unknown NP. Why people think that the ex lazio / England manager wouldn't be good enough for us and NP will be is ridiculous. What has Pearson actually done.... won the L1 trophy (our lowest league finish ever) and... nowt, how do we expect him to manage the players Sven brought in, he seems to have worked wonders with Beckford but you have to ask... how can Matt Mills, Reading player of the year and probably the best cb in the league (last year) be not good enough for this team. And now the Leeds loan (it's DJ all over again) Don't get me wrong I’m a Pearson fan, honestly love his character, comes across really well in interview, talks sense and is forming a good team unity/spirit, a 'proper manager'. Most people of FT slagged off Sven and i think we're about one or two more defeats away from being in the same boat with NP, in my eyes it's the same old Sun /NOTW opinions from Svens old England days. However when NP underperforms people back him! Does no one remember the excitement when Sven came to town, brought some quality players in and created a massive buzz around the team and put the club back on the map. Can’t see us getting promoted anytime soon and even if we did NP would be replaced as he has no premier experience and it’s too much of a risk to say give him a go and if we’re in relegation by xmas change things. Top and co have spent a lot of money already and will have to spend more to get /keep us in premier league football I can’t believe that they would keep NP and expect him to be able to do that. Dont you think sending your mum to rant on the forums is a bit much Sven?
cc_star Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Love this, it's amazing how bias people are, we have been rubbish all season, firstly with one of the most experienced managers around in Sven and then with relative unknown NP. Why people think that the ex lazio / England manager wouldn't be good enough for us and NP will be is ridiculous. What has Pearson actually done.... won the L1 trophy (our lowest league finish ever) and... nowt, how do we expect him to manage the players Sven brought in, he seems to have worked wonders with Beckford but you have to ask... how can Matt Mills, Reading player of the year and probably the best cb in the league (last year) be not good enough for this team. And now the Leeds loan (it's DJ all over again) Don't get me wrong I’m a Pearson fan, honestly love his character, comes across really well in interview, talks sense and is forming a good team unity/spirit, a 'proper manager'. Most people of FT slagged off Sven and i think we're about one or two more defeats away from being in the same boat with NP, in my eyes it's the same old Sun /NOTW opinions from Svens old England days. However when NP underperforms people back him! Does no one remember the excitement when Sven came to town, brought some quality players in and created a massive buzz around the team and put the club back on the map. Can’t see us getting promoted anytime soon and even if we did NP would be replaced as he has no premier experience and it’s too much of a risk to say give him a go and if we’re in relegation by xmas change things. Top and co have spent a lot of money already and will have to spend more to get /keep us in premier league football I can’t believe that they would keep NP and expect him to be able to do that. I can only assume this is a joke account of a wind-up merchant What the hell as Sven buying the Italian league spending over £250m got to do with anything, a chimp would have walked the league if it outspent everyone else added together? He had the most gifted England players for generations and flopped on the final bend every time, was tactically & motivationally clueless when the chips were down... time after time after time. It's only the shambles of Capello's 2010 campaign that makes Sven look good there. Don't know why you keep talking about when we're in the Premiership, this is the toughest second flight in the world, it's even more competitive than the top flight... Perhaps we'd have been out of it had NP not been forced out by Manderic (effectively the Thai's though as it was them who wanted a 'name' for a manager) If there's ever been a manager less suited to a division than Sven to the Champs... anywhere in the world, I'm yet to see it Now we're in another transition spell as Pearson tries to stamp a winning mentality & team work onto a team which lacks bollocks and is largely full of individuals, it's going to take blood on the floor which has already happened with SSL & more recently with Mills and there will be others too if they don't have the right mentality to play for the TEAM. With plenty of players hopefully being shown the door in the summer & a few (important it's not too many) new arrivals I'm excited for our future... and with this manager and not the last one it's certain the club will have a future too
Steve Agnew Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Balanced judgement of the season. Pearson's management this year has been no better, if not worse than Sven's in the early part of the season. We play a frustrating long ball game under Pearson, so the entertainment factor is far less. Success stories of sven's signings - Kasper, Konchesky, St Ledger, Nugent, Peltier, Danns (of late), Beckford (of late). (more than 1/2 of svens signings have been great successes) Pearson has signed Morgan (no pace, poor positioning) Drinkwater (inconsistent in what I've seen) Marshall (no pace, and a lightweight). I make that none of Pearson's signings a true success as yet. Add to this that the two main culprits for under performing are Pearson's prized Gallagher and Wellens, I think Pearson's judgement leaves a lot to be desired. He's fallen out with two players in his short time here, and also moved on others that had the ability to move the ball around quickly. (Abe and Fernandes) When Sven first arrived he analysed our weakness as not competing in the middle of the pitch. Not tackling enough, closing down enough and dominating in the centre. To my mind this still seems to be the problem now. Much has been made of the back four, but we don't defend in the middle. Wellens does not have the pace, or the engine, or the physical attributes to be a ball winner in the middle of the park. Last night he stated on an interview that Bristol City only had 4 shots on goal and was amazed they won the game. Delusions! Check the stats out for yourself http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/17187656 (bristol had 13 shots to our 8). I fear Pearson picks the team based on personalities, as with Gally and Wellens, and does not have the objectivity to look at attributes of players. Sven was by no means the answer, as he struggled to get it right in the middle of the park also. But based on the evidence he seems a better judge of players ability than Pearson, and also encouraged a style of football that we all like to watch, and based on results had a marginally better record than Pearson. (still not good enough for promotion though) I fear that Sven was sacked because of the negativity of the fans, responding in accord with previous media criticism of Sven, and also the fact that he was not English. The owners picked up on the boos, and tried to protect the brand by believing the customer is always right. I think Pearson will stay next year, and will probably achieve the best that his ability will dictate, which means a team with a strong work ethic that will obtain a league position just outside the play-off spots, or potentially just within ( ie all Hull and Leicester seasons in the championship). Unfortunately for a team to finish in the top two, they need a little more than a great team ethic. Pearson does not have the vision or the tactical awareness to bring in the creativity, or bit of flair play that is required for automatic promotion. His man management means that he can only work with a small squad of players, and this also proves problematic when strength and depth is required. The owners have spent a lot of money (including Pearson's 1 million wages per year) on a product that will not be exciting or even successful. Should we ride through the lottery of the play-offs next year, the type of squad assembled by Pearson in the pre-season ( little pace, little flair, all long ball and determination) will not have a hope of premiership survival. The only option will be to replace the manager and the whole team - see QPR for an example of how well that works! As opposed to Swansea and Norwich, who established an attractive passing game, and encouraged their players to improve their technical ability while in the championship, so moving into the premiership this is the reason they have continued to be successful. Last season Sven picked out Swansea as the best technical side in the division, way before they were promoted and continued to win praise for their passing performances in the Premiership. Sven could not and would not have got it right in at Leicester City, for a number of reasons, but his judgement of players ability, and his desired brand of football shows that his technical ability is far greater than Pearson's. Sacking managers is no way to bring success to a club, but the appointment needs to be good in the first place. I see it as at least another two seasons before Leicester will make the Premiership. And that's if the manager post Pearson has the right credentials to build the foundations of a good footballing side.
davelcfc100 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 I find it quite hillarious that 3 games ago every1 was saying we need to average at 2points a game to have any hopes of promotion, since then we have done exactly this however some twats still call for pearson out, yes bristol city is a bad team to lose to but is also out of the run of games we have had 1 of the games I could always see us losing, we put in a bad shift last night but I still have confidence we can make a late push for the play off spots
Heskey2011 Posted 7 March 2012 Posted 7 March 2012 Balanced judgement of the season. Pearson's management this year has been no better, if not worse than Sven's in the early part of the season. We play a frustrating long ball game under Pearson, so the entertainment factor is far less. Success stories of sven's signings - Kasper, Konchesky, St Ledger, Nugent, Peltier, Danns (of late), Beckford (of late). (more than 1/2 of svens signings have been great successes) Pearson has signed Morgan (no pace, poor positioning) Drinkwater (inconsistent in what I've seen) Marshall (no pace, and a lightweight). I make that none of Pearson's signings a true success as yet. Add to this that the two main culprits for under performing are Pearson's prized Gallagher and Wellens, I think Pearson's judgement leaves a lot to be desired. He's fallen out with two players in his short time here, and also moved on others that had the ability to move the ball around quickly. (Abe and Fernandes) When Sven first arrived he analysed our weakness as not competing in the middle of the pitch. Not tackling enough, closing down enough and dominating in the centre. To my mind this still seems to be the problem now. Much has been made of the back four, but we don't defend in the middle. Wellens does not have the pace, or the engine, or the physical attributes to be a ball winner in the middle of the park. Last night he stated on an interview that Bristol City only had 4 shots on goal and was amazed they won the game. Delusions! Check the stats out for yourself http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/17187656 (bristol had 13 shots to our 8). I fear Pearson picks the team based on personalities, as with Gally and Wellens, and does not have the objectivity to look at attributes of players. Sven was by no means the answer, as he struggled to get it right in the middle of the park also. But based on the evidence he seems a better judge of players ability than Pearson, and also encouraged a style of football that we all like to watch, and based on results had a marginally better record than Pearson. (still not good enough for promotion though) I fear that Sven was sacked because of the negativity of the fans, responding in accord with previous media criticism of Sven, and also the fact that he was not English. The owners picked up on the boos, and tried to protect the brand by believing the customer is always right. I think Pearson will stay next year, and will probably achieve the best that his ability will dictate, which means a team with a strong work ethic that will obtain a league position just outside the play-off spots, or potentially just within ( ie all Hull and Leicester seasons in the championship). Unfortunately for a team to finish in the top two, they need a little more than a great team ethic. Pearson does not have the vision or the tactical awareness to bring in the creativity, or bit of flair play that is required for automatic promotion. His man management means that he can only work with a small squad of players, and this also proves problematic when strength and depth is required. The owners have spent a lot of money (including Pearson's 1 million wages per year) on a product that will not be exciting or even successful. Should we ride through the lottery of the play-offs next year, the type of squad assembled by Pearson in the pre-season ( little pace, little flair, all long ball and determination) will not have a hope of premiership survival. The only option will be to replace the manager and the whole team - see QPR for an example of how well that works! As opposed to Swansea and Norwich, who established an attractive passing game, and encouraged their players to improve their technical ability while in the championship, so moving into the premiership this is the reason they have continued to be successful. Last season Sven picked out Swansea as the best technical side in the division, way before they were promoted and continued to win praise for their passing performances in the Premiership. Sven could not and would not have got it right in at Leicester City, for a number of reasons, but his judgement of players ability, and his desired brand of football shows that his technical ability is far greater than Pearson's. Sacking managers is no way to bring success to a club, but the appointment needs to be good in the first place. I see it as at least another two seasons before Leicester will make the Premiership. And that's if the manager post Pearson has the right credentials to build the foundations of a good footballing side. Nail on the head!
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