Jace Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Surely this is going to increase the chance of Mills being loaned to Leeds?
ThurnbyLodgeFox Posted 20 March 2012 Author Posted 20 March 2012 Surely this is going to increase the chance of Mills being loaned to Leeds? He wants to fight for his place
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 He wants to fight for his place Not the best choice of words mate??
Number 6 Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Anyone think that continually changing the defence may have something to do with the problems?
AKCJ Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 To be fair. What happens when you take the 5 Chelsea scored against us out of the equation?
MONreborn Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Results going our way: Do tell... You can look on bbc sport you lazy sod. pompey 4 - 1 Brum Hull 0 - 2 Southampton and the leeds game and boro only drew
sharpie Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 He is garbage, if you have watched him this season abd know anything about football you will know that. A spot on the bench maybe.
yorkie1999 Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Gotta start playing marshall schlupp and drinkwater from the off IMO
TheUltimateWinner Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Mills has been poor and inconsistent... I only want to watch players who actually want to play for the club with pride on their shirts.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Leicester city leicester city have ye any mills?.... Leicester city contains no Mills
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 You can look on bbc sport you lazy sod. pompey 4 - 1 Brum Hull 0 - 2 Southampton and the leeds game and boro only drew Cheers mi ode xx Leicester city leicester city have ye any mills?.... Leicester city contains no Mills Yeeeeeessss we have Come out ye Mills ye naughty Mills!!!
broughtonblue Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 I think we should give him another chance, him and SSL at the back again. Agree with this
Captain... Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Our defensive record with Mills in the team is far better than when he wasn't.. Doesn't this speak volume? He might have poor attitude, but he is a good player, and if we have any chance of getting 6th then our defence needs sorting! I dont think he should be captain, but the stats mentioned proves something, surely? What stats are you using to base that on? Do they include the goals we conceded when he wasn't on the pitch after getting sent off? Do you include the 6 goals we conceded against premiership opposition without Mills in the team as having the same weight as the six we conceded to Watford and Barnsley with Mills in the team? I am happy to see him given another chance, but I am under no illusion that he will solve all of our defensive problems.
Mack Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 He wants to fight for his place He wants to stay so he can smash Jade Elliott.
James. Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 This is exactly the sort of thread that demomstrates why fans don't manage football teams. Firstly what are the actual statistics? I don't have them but for anyone to begin to take your argument seriously you need to provide the evidence to back up your assertion. Secondly, and much more importantly, there are hundreds of variables affecting a team's performance. You have to be very careful when trying to isloate the impact one particular player. The most obvious one, as alluded to above, is the quality of the opposition. How do you know we wouldn't have conceded 6 or 7 goals versus Chelsea if Mills was playing, or maybe we'd have let in 5 goals against Reading. What about the other factors - the style of opposition, the formation, the form of other players, the location, etc etc. Pearson manages the team (thank god) and will apply a little more intelligence to his decision making than looking at results with and without Mills. From a fans perspective to me Mills appears to be disruptive, arrogant and ill-disciplined - irrespective of how good he is I don't want a player like that anywhere near the club when we're trying to foster short and long term stability.
DanTheFox07 Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 No he isn't, god knows how many people watch him perform week in week out, he has been our worst player this season, yes even as bad as Gallagher in my opinion. He is rubbish, and doesn't deserve a place in the team, fans bummed him off when he was a substitute and was warming up in our game against Birmingham was it. It's like they had no clue, of how he behaved and how he has performed this season, he didn't deserve an ovation like that. The guy is a idiot, and I couldn't care a less if he says he loves the club etc...fans should go and bum a player who deserves attention, not a player who shouldn't. No he isn't, god knows how many people watch him perform week in week out, he has been our worst player this season, yes even as bad as Gallagher in my opinion. He is rubbish, and doesn't deserve a place in the team, fans bummed him off when he was a substitute and was warming up in our game against Birmingham was it. It's like they had no clue, of how he behaved and how he has performed this season, he didn't deserve an ovation like that. The guy is a idiot, and I couldn't care a less if he says he loves the club etc...fans should go and bum a player who deserves attention, not a player who shouldn't. Oh jog on, you probably rate morgan as a better player than mills! and who are you to decide if he deserves a place in the team!
Guesty Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Everytime we concede more than 2 goals its always because (insert players name) wasn't playing and he should to be brought back. The fact is every member of centeral defence has played in at least 1 game where we got hammered. We just need to pick 2 and stick with them and stop chopping and changing so they build a partnership. I'd go with Morgan and St Ledger - one has skill the other is the no-nonense rock. I wouldn't have Bamba because he can't stay in his position and seems more of an individual. I wouldn't have Mills as he seems to have a big ego which is totally unwarrented. Reading have hardly missed him and I don't think we have. He's like the Nickolas Bendter of championship defending. He could be really good but he over complicates things because he's not half as good in reality as he is in his own head. Plus that attitude pisses off all the other players, especially when hes being paid a lot more than them (admittedly not his fault).
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 There's something about players not being in the team that makes them better players isn't there?! He's been rubbish, his attitude was rubbish. Just because we're not winning 10-0 without him, why should he deserve to get back in? Let's not forget how he was when he was playing. Anyone with any sense will know that he's simply not as good as any of the other three centre halves we have and should only be in should two of that three be unavailable. The same people kidding themselves that he's a good player, or has played well, are probably the same people that convinced themselves he was/is the best defender in the Championship because we paid all that money for him. I swear if we signed Akinbiyi for £5million again now, and he performed exactly as he did before, there would be people claiming that he's the best striker in the Championship (because of the fee) and, if he were dropped, that he hadn't been that bad and deserves another go. Every club makes mistakes when buying, the sensible ones are the ones that recognise it, move on and cut their losses. Fed up of hearing about Mills. The sooner he goes, the better all round.
accessory Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 There's something about players not being in the team that makes them better players isn't there?! He's been rubbish, his attitude was rubbish. Just because we're not winning 10-0 without him, why should he deserve to get back in? Let's not forget how he was when he was playing. Anyone with any sense will know that he's simply not as good as any of the other three centre halves we have and should only be in should two of that three be unavailable. The same people kidding themselves that he's a good player, or has played well, are probably the same people that convinced themselves he was/is the best defender in the Championship because we paid all that money for him. Yeah, let's forget that he led Reading to a play-off final and had several Premier clubs chasing him, shall we? Have Morgan, Bamba or St Ledger got that type of record? No. Mills has had good and bad games this season, the same as every other member of the squad. There's an argument that he's no worse that Steve Walsh or Matt Elliott were at his age. Look how many years it took before Walsh came good here.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Yeah, let's forget that he led Reading to a play-off final and had several Premier clubs chasing him, shall we? Have Morgan, Bamba or St Ledger got that type of record? No. Mills has had good and bad games this season, the same as every other member of the squad. There's an argument that he's no worse that Steve Walsh or Matt Elliott were at his age. Look how many years it took before Walsh came good here. A) Mills was a cog in a team at Reading. A very replaceable cog, as has been proved by their ability to do the same as last year without him. Their fans clearly knew his limitations and weren't too sad to see him go. B) Having Premiership teams after you means nothing! Plenty of players have been wanted, even signed by Premiership teams, only to go on and do nothing. Clubs make mistakes and pay big for players who aren't even the best at their club. We've even had it over the years, see Connoly, McCarthy, Lee Marshall.... C) We can all see in the most basic of attributes (heading, passing, dribbling) that St Ledger, Bamba and Morgan are all better players than Mills. He can't do what they can but if needed I'm sure they could do what he does (yes that's right, tell Bamba to lose his composure and I'm sure even he could throw in some desperate blocks, rash tackles and long punts). Mills' limitations come because he can't do the things the others can. Two of those three are playing international football currently as well, there's their record. At the end of the day, everyone's the expert in knowing who should be playing that currently isn't. What has to be remembered is that Pearson sees Mills day in, day out, aside from just the poor on pitch performances that we are treated to. He's made a bold decision, not a rash one (Mills had his chance) and it's one I wholeheartedly agree with. Not remembering why players out of the side are not currently playing is the reason that, for the last two years, we've been in a circle of Howard loving, hating and indifference. Like Howard, Mills is not the answer. We know that. So what is the point in going back to them? Move on. Get rid.
shade Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 mills was dropped for less than we've seen recently, if he doesn't bring him back in then he has done something SO bad that he's just waiting for the summer to flog him.
accessory Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 A) Mills was a cog in a team at Reading. A very replaceable cog, as has been proved by their ability to do the same as last year without him. Their fans clearly knew his limitations and weren't too sad to see him go. B) Having Premiership teams after you means nothing! Plenty of players have been wanted, even signed by Premiership teams, only to go on and do nothing. Clubs make mistakes and pay big for players who aren't even the best at their club. We've even had it over the years, see Connoly, McCarthy, Lee Marshall.... C) We can all see in the most basic of attributes (heading, passing, dribbling) that St Ledger, Bamba and Morgan are all better players than Mills. He can't do what they can but if needed I'm sure they could do what he does (yes that's right, tell Bamba to lose his composure and I'm sure even he could throw in some desperate blocks, rash tackles and long punts). Mills' limitations come because he can't do the things the others can. Two of those three are playing international football currently as well, there's their record. At the end of the day, everyone's the expert in knowing who should be playing that currently isn't. What has to be remembered is that Pearson sees Mills day in, day out, aside from just the poor on pitch performances that we are treated to. He's made a bold decision, not a rash one (Mills had his chance) and it's one I wholeheartedly agree with. Not remembering why players out of the side are not currently playing is the reason that, for the last two years, we've been in a circle of Howard loving, hating and indifference. Like Howard, Mills is not the answer. We know that. So what is the point in going back to them? Move on. Get rid.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 It seems everyone has forgotten why Mills is out the team. He's out because he's Fvcking shit! Our defence wouldn't be any better with him and his stupid Hollywood passes to no one and his idiocy on defending... Our whole defence is appalling and this man cost is 4 million and has delivered nothing absolutely NOTHING
Babylon Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Yeah, let's forget that he led Reading to a play-off final and had several Premier clubs chasing him, shall we? Have Morgan, Bamba or St Ledger got that type of record? No. Mills has had good and bad games this season, the same as every other member of the squad. There's an argument that he's no worse that Steve Walsh or Matt Elliott were at his age. Look how many years it took before Walsh came good here. You should probably look up where Morgan and forest were before this season. More consistent than a one off season for Reading. Mills was average, the others we have are average. Mills not being in the team ain't the problem.
Captain... Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 We score more without Mills in the team, fact! look at the statistics! LOOK AT THE STATISTICS! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
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