AKCJ Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Well, it's studs locking into the turf and then somebody smashing full-blooded into the guy's legs. Not necessarily. Look at the high profile ones from recent years. Djibrill Cisse, Aaron Ramsey, Eduardo da Silva... All, yes poorly timed, but not malicious or two footed tackles.
Jace Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Don't worry Pearson has just ordered some new training wear for the guys http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Leicester-Keep-Calm-Stay-Your-Feet-City-Football-T-Shirt-/250908035952?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item8011a106cd#ht_1340wt_698
Haydos Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Danns' tackle wasn't the standard 2 footed lunge. The one by Cisse for QPR yesterday had me wincing, but Danns' was more a clumsy tackle gone wrong more than anything. He definately pulls his feet out of the challenge. Seriously? Cisses was a bit dirty but not really that dangerous. Firstly it was barely off the ground (Ie. it was basically at the players feet, not halfway up his shin) and secondly it was hardly at any pace, compare that with Danns' and it's the other end of the spectrum.. Deserved a red because obviously it's against the law and he knew it straight away.
ThurnbyLodgeFox Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 As the referee gave the foul I think he had to send him off. No excuses from me, it was reckless and deemed a red card, however I do agree their player should of been booked at least. Will be a major loss for us and will make the team sheet a bit interesting with Wellens out too
Bert Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Danns isn't a dirty player but for me it was two footed, over the ball and therefore a straight red card and not a chance of winning an appeal. Spot on, I'd be very surprised if they even considered appealing it.
Guest MattP Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Wow. Some of our fans are hopeless. It was a terrible tackle and was rightly punished, good job Danns didn't connect or it would have been a serious injury.
blueharmie Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Did danns mean to hurt the guy? No way. He isn't that sort of player. However it was miss timed and it could of broke the guys leg. Stonewall red card for me, I admire danns' passion for the game and our club. We need a player like him.
lcfcadam Posted 25 March 2012 Posted 25 March 2012 Fvcking hell that's nasty. The pace he comes in at as well, their player is lucky he still has a career. Bloody hell Dannsy, they call that assault in some countries. It's borderline assault. lol lol lol F.U.C.K me. An over-vigourous attempt to win the ball, arguably badly-judged, worthy of a red in the modern day and probably a yellow any season before the 2000's. And people are calling it "assault"?! You lot need to see footage of properly bad football challenges and then review your opinion!
Kitchandro Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 lol lol lol F.U.C.K me. An over-vigourous attempt to win the ball, arguably badly-judged, worthy of a red in the modern day and probably a yellow any season before the 2000's. And people are calling it "assault"?! You lot need to see footage of properly bad football challenges and then review your opinion! TBF Dannzy's tackle was right out of the adam in 6-aside/my back garden text book.
tufcref Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 It's interesting, because there's no doubt that whilst Danns deserved to go, the Hull player has at least one leg off the ground with studs up (the other is off the ground but cocked so unlikely to do damage) and was clearly very late. A late tackle with studs up, even if one-footed, is a booking minimum. At the speed he was travelling it was arguably reckless. A reckless challenge is only a yellow card.
GingerrrFox Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 From my point of view after watching it back a number of times, they BOTH went in hard to win the ball in a full force tackle, they BOTH went in with studs showing, they BOTH had two feet off the ground (albeit it with Dannzy's being more off the ground) and neither of them won the ball. If it was a red card offence then they both need to be sent off as neither of them were in possession of the ball so it wasn't technically a tackle, they were both challenging for possession of the ball. The referee should have booked both of them in my opinion and all my housemates at uni agree. Oh and before you cry bias, 1s a leeds fan, 1s a man utd fan, 1s a scunthorpe fan and the other is a celtic fan.....
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Having seen the BBC footage I have changed my mind again. I was enraged at the decision at the time, then changed my mind when I saw the replay from the normal TV angle, but now I think it should have just been a yellow. The first SS is from further out (obviously), and is the angle which I think makes the tackle look terrible. But as you can see from the other two, he goes in with his right leg bent (you can see his foot behind his arse) and it only becomes parallel with his left leg once his left foot is almost planted. Both players are guilty of a pretty awful technique (leaving the ground and flailing their limbs all over the shop) but I don't think it's worth a red card.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 That does sort of show that both players were performing equally 'bad' challenges. IMO McKennas challenge is actually worse as he is using the ground to add power to his flight forward into Danns. I am not sure that the whole vilification over 2 footed challenges is really just, a 1 footed trip from behind is just as likely to cause a broken ankle.....maybe these should be red card offences too. I would question whether they have really caused that many career ending injuries even though people claim that they do, Ive never seen any hard eveidence to back this up. A couple of minutes before there was a bad 2 footed challenge from behind on Dyer, not even a free Kick was given. This is the real issue here, referees consitency. If you send someone off for this tackle do it consistently, really both players should go on this occassion.
Ric Flair Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Have 2 players ever been sent off for both going for the same ball and both going in two footed? It happens fairly often but it seems it's only when one player does it that the red is whipped out.
iamafox Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 I thought it should have been a yellow at first but having seen the replay, it was inevitable that the ref was going to give a red to Danns. How many games will Danns be banned for? Is it going to be longer because of the sending off he had at Brighton? We really need him.
StanSP Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 I thought it should have been a yellow at first but having seen the replay, it was inevitable that the ref was going to give a red to Danns. How many games will Danns be banned for? Is it going to be longer because of the sending off he had at Brighton? We really need him. Yes. Most likely 4 games.
SystonFox Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 that is a ****ing huge tackle. straight red. no doubt. end
accessory Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Having seen the BBC footage I have changed my mind again. I was enraged at the decision at the time, then changed my mind when I saw the replay from the normal TV angle, but now I think it should have just been a yellow. The first SS is from further out (obviously), and is the angle which I think makes the tackle look terrible. But as you can see from the other two, he goes in with his right leg bent (you can see his foot behind his arse) and it only becomes parallel with his left leg once his left foot is almost planted. Both players are guilty of a pretty awful technique (leaving the ground and flailing their limbs all over the shop) but I don't think it's worth a red card. Interesting footage. Can now see why the ref felt concerned about the challenge. But DANNS PLAYED THE BALL. McKenna didn't. It could even be argued the free-kick should have gone the other way.
iamafox Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Yes. Most likely 4 games. We'll keep trying to push for the top 6 without him then, whilst it's possible.
Mack Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Neither player had control of the ball. The challenge was full blooded but for me it's a yellow card for both players, nothing more. However there's no point appealing as the FA will trot out a load of rule book bollocks to back up the ref. We'll really miss Danns in the next 3 games that are all very winnable. Is King anywhere near ready yet?
Bayfox Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 i agree with a few of the above posts, at the time I felt they both went in of the ground and hard and i've seen nothing to change my mind, danns actually got the ball as well, unlike the hull player who arrived even later, if anything by the letter of the law, they both should walk. Going to miss danns as he has been excellent in the last few months, i guess wellens path back into the team is now secure!!
dannyjpage Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 I was going to stay clear of this thread, but need to make one point. Both players went in with both feet off the ground and from my seat in the ground i felt it was dangerous but 50/50 challenge from both sides. It seems the ref only decided to punish one player and that was the player that actually connected with the ball?? I can imagine exactly what the referee wrote in his report after the game regarding Danns However i would love to see what he wrote about the Hull player or if he even included anything on it in the report. If i had to make the decision i would have yellow carded both players and spoke to both players Although the referee completely lost control of the situation being surrounded by players.
dannyjpage Posted 26 March 2012 Posted 26 March 2012 Last i heard King is 2 weeks away. Maybe back for Doncaster
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