Beckfords last game?

[Jimmy]

He did well before us, & well after us.

However he could be said to be our worst ever manager. Yeah, sign him up.

you excuse Pearson for working with Sven's squad but blame Holloway who was working with Allen's? you're just a hypocrite, he may have gotten us relegated but Taylor nearly destroyed us, no one is anywhere near him as our worst ever manager

[Guest]

and under Jock he'd have hita wall - literally.

you excuse Pearson for working with Sven's squad but blame Holloway who was working with Allen's? you're just a hypocrite, he may have gotten us relegated but Taylor nearly destroyed us, no one is anywhere near him as our worst ever manager

that's true.

[cc_star]

you excuse Pearson for working with Sven's squad but blame Holloway who was working with Allen's? you're just a hypocrite, he may have gotten us relegated but Taylor nearly destroyed us, no one is anywhere near him as our worst ever manager

He could be said, is what I said... seeing as he took us to our record low position

Holloway made loads of signings didn't he, he'd signed about 5 players in the first week of the window... when he joined we were 17th & underperforming in a big way our aim of reaching playoffs, but we weren't seriously in a relegation battle, but him & his signings made it one. Sign him up!

[Corky]

Holloway wouldn't be a good choice. Too much negative history with the club.

[Legend_in_blue]

I can't believe this is being discussed.

How many more mediocre to poor performances will the players have to put in before people realise that the players are at fault and not the manager?

[Grewks]

This is just my opinion, based not just today but all season.......

Since arriving what have we seen exactly?

- A poor first touch from a player who was playing premier league football last season

- A player who has scored...but very rarely from more than 6 yards, and has never created any opportunities for himself

- he believes he can score volleys from the corner flag, and believes he does not have to (or cannot) take on a center back when 1 v 1.

- A lack of effort and bravery....today he could have had a backpost tap in, he could have use his foot, leg, knee, a diving headed, but he didnt.

- A player who can be contained by a team with one recognised center back, who is himself an academy player.

I am fed up of this argument of 'well he was a good player before he came to us', and the other one.....' we are not creating enough chances for him'.

Lets face it, we need players who are going to be 'good' for us, establishing a reputation with our club, and not build a team on past reputations. Today Beckford was outshined in all areas of the footballing game by Emile Sinclair (who was either a league 1 or 2 striker last season...i cannot remember). There is no point building a squad of players who 'have been good at other clubs'.

Football is all about the present you can plan for the future, but you cannot change the past.

In all honesty after watching todays game...sinclair, tomlin and boyd > beckford, nugent and dyer. Yet beckfords transfer fee aswell as wages are higher than the three put together.

claiming that pearson does not buy player with flair and ability, and likes to sell them is an absolute joke.

1. I have not seen any of this from Beckford

2. he bought marshall, arguably also drinkwater. and at hull signed brady, stewart, koren etc.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

I'd have Holloway back at any time

I wouldn't bother with cc star I don't read his comments anymore.

But on your point, never go back, we've already learnt our lesson ....

[Happy Fox]

The owners like a name manager someone with higher profile you could argue that it didn't work with Sven, but that may be the route they go for again. I do not believe for one moment they hired NP on the basis of him being a success story ( I appreciate what he did in the past but I hoped it would remain in the past!) he certainly wasn't first choice at all and It was probably this is just my opinion perhaps it was the Birch and Neville who mooted for his coming?

[Corky]

This is just my opinion, based not just today but all season.......

Since arriving what have we seen exactly?

- A poor first touch from a player who was playing premier league football last season

- A player who has scored...but very rarely from more than 6 yards, and has never created any opportunities for himself

- he believes he can score volleys from the corner flag, and believes he does not have to (or cannot) take on a center back when 1 v 1.

- A lack of effort and bravery....today he could have had a backpost tap in, he could have use his foot, leg, knee, a diving headed, but he didnt.

- A player who can be contained by a team with one recognised center back, who is himself an academy player.

That is extremely one-sided.

Beckford has also shown some good link-up play with Nugent and Dyer, some good runs off the ball and at times a cool finish.

He does have his faults (not brave enough, poor first touch and tendency to drift out of games) but he's not been a total failure like you suggest.

[Grewks]

That is extremely one-sided.

Beckford has also shown some good link-up play with Nugent and Dyer, some good runs off the ball and at times a cool finish.

He does have his faults (not brave enough, poor first touch and tendency to drift out of games) but he's not been a total failure like you suggest.

if you was at the game today you would realise that the comments you made were just stupid.

first 20 mins it was him and marshall 2v1... a pass across the box would have gave marshall a tap in but instead chose to cut onto his left, no football brain whatsoever.

as for the link up play...he tries fancy tounches when he can just play the ball normally and this often ends up with him losing the ball....which happened again today on numerous occasions

Emile sinclair > Beckford....no discussion needed....he can actually run.

[Corky]

if you was at the game today you would realise that the comments you made were just stupid.

I was at the game today, and Beckford wasn't great at all.

But you said "today AND all season".

[Jimmy]

I wouldn't bother with cc star I don't read his comments anymore.

But on your point, never go back, we've already learnt our lesson ....

it was pulling a name off the top of my head, we turned down the chance to get Brendan Rodgers, and he is now 1 of the hottest managers in the prem, someone like Brian McDermott would be a good choice or Roberto Martinez should he be available even Roberto Di Matteo, he did get WBA promoted from this level so has shown he has what it takes

[Guest]

Beckford doesn't seem to have a football brain.

[Jimmy]

Emile sinclair > Beckford....no discussion needed....he can actually run.

talking of stupid comments, how many goals does Sinclair have then? genuine question, we had a striker where all he could do was run, his name was Elvis Hammond (ankle)

[Kitchandro]

I'm not reading all of this thread, but I am sure it is full of people saying Pearson falls out with all the players. But you're ignoring all of their histories to make your point. Lets look at their previous:

- St Ledger was well known for having an attitude when he was younger, at Peterborough, ironically.

- When we signed Mills, what did Reading fans say? He's arrogant, mouths off too much and the fans didn't take to him.

- Beckford: Moyes didn't get on with him, he had all sorts of disciplinary issues at Leeds, and their fans often said he sulked and spat his dummy out a lot. But we knew that anyway.

- It was clear that nobody at the club liked DJ Campbell and lets face it, he was a horrible little chav.

The point is I like Pearson's approach to these players. I don't want their egos at the club and neither does he. It is the modern footballer who is wrong, not the old fashioned manager who builds his phiosophy around hard work and discipline.

Part of me likes Beckford as a player, he's stylish and exciting and when he's in the mood he's a natural goalscorer. But what has let him down in his whole time here is that he is as thick as two short planks. He is extremely idiotic and childish in his behaviour and in his play and he always has been. It's a shame because he has got talent but he's wasted it in his career.

I didn't see the incident but if it's what it sounds like then it's unacceptable.

[Grewks]

I was at the game today, and Beckford wasn't great at all.

But you said "today AND all season".

Todays performance has been a microcosm of his general performance this season......again Emile sinclair > beckford. So what is the point in keeping him? If pearson was here at the start of the season we may have signed some of these decent players.

[Guest]

Jose Mourinho wants back into English football.

[wurmer]

I can't believe this is being discussed.

How many more mediocre to poor performances will the players have to put in before people realise that the players are at fault and not the manager?

I can't believe this is being discussed either.

It's the Managers job to get the best out of what he has available for selection, how many more poor performances from the players do we need to realise it's the manager at fault.

I like NP, I want him at the club, but he's really got to shake it up, because the players don't seem to be getting it......

[Grewks]

talking of stupid comments, how many goals does Sinclair have then? genuine question, we had a striker where all he could do was run, his name was Elvis Hammond (ankle)

The support which beckford receives from other players contains far more quality than sinclairs. sinclair can do a lot more than run....to put it simply he can...

- run

- jump

- TRY!

- even pops up with a few goals considering his lack of appearences.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

it was pulling a name off the top of my head, we turned down the chance to get Brendan Rodgers, and he is now 1 of the hottest managers in the prem, someone like Brian McDermott would be a good choice or Roberto Martinez should he be available even Roberto Di Matteo, he did get WBA promoted from this level so has shown he has what it takes

The thing with Brendan Rodgers, when we were linked nobody wanted him because he epically failed at Reading.

Footballs a crazy old game.

[Corky]

Todays performance has been a microcosm of his general performance this season......again Emile sinclair > beckford. So what is the point in keeping him? If pearson was here at the start of the season we may have signed some of these decent players.

Why wasn't Sinclair starting today then, if he's that good?

[Jimmy]

The support which beckford receives from other players contains far more quality than sinclairs. sinclair can do a lot more than run....to put it simply he can...

- run

- jump

- TRY!

- even pops up with a few goals considering his lack of appearences.

Beckford has done all those,, not enough granted but he has, take your head out of Alan Young's arse long enough to see

The thing with Brendan Rodgers, when we were linked nobody wanted him because he epically failed at Reading.

Footballs a crazy old game.

could of got him from Watford as well instead of getting Sousa

[Kitchandro]

Give me the playoff team over this ragtag, loose collection of non-achieving, big pay cheque, big time charlies any day of the week

This. People have very short memories.

I get what they're saying though, they're tired of limited players. But we have limited players now, Beckford included. But some of them are worse than your Waghorns and your Howards (or the versions of those players that got us into the play-offs anyway) because of their attitude.

The stats don't lie, the team of 2010 may not have been that good but it was a lot more successful than this pile of wank. The group of players is only marginally better now but the team spirit is a lot worse.

[Guest]

Why wasn't Sinclair starting today then, if he's that good?

If the alternative was Steve howard maybe he would be.

[jamesmilner]

ive said it before , we are a replica of man city when they 1st got money ,club with too many players thinking theyre better than they are (big time charlie syndrone) !