ithuriel Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 http://www.guardian....nspiracy-claims It's all a bit ridiculous really. Do the police officers here not realise that it only needs one officer to act dishonestly in order to give the entire police force a bad name? The met's role in the Leveson enquiry was whitewashed. Here is another case of poor met behaviour. I'm not shocked to be honest.
AyewJoking Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 a friend of friend was beaten by a coppa so did a swear word at him and the whole thing went to court but the cop didnt show.
Guest MattP Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 Well this has got interesting hasn't it? You can accuse a Tory of anything if it's a class related slur and people will just believe it whatever the evidence. Hope they get to the bottom of this.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 Why? You will believe one side or the other simply by which paper you buy.
breadandcheese Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 You will believe one side or the other simply by which paper you buy. Whilst that is true in most cases, I'm not so sure it is in this case. It seems that all newspapers printed the facts that were presented to them (Allegation of Mitchell calling police officers plebs, reports from police officers notes, an email from a witness). It turns out that all the things told to the media were more than likely fabricated. Channel 4 news ran the story last night and all the newspapers have followed the same line, whether left wing or right wing. So the questions needs to be asked as to the conduct of the police officers and to how the police officers notes made it into the public domain.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 19 December 2012 Posted 19 December 2012 Whilst that is true in most cases, I'm not so sure it is in this case. It seems that all newspapers printed the facts that were presented to them (Allegation of Mitchell calling police officers plebs, reports from police officers notes, an email from a witness). It turns out that all the things told to the media were more than likely fabricated. Channel 4 news ran the story last night and all the newspapers have followed the same line, whether left wing or right wing. So the questions needs to be asked as to the conduct of the police officers and to how the police officers notes made it into the public domain. Absolutely true up to now, but I think you'll now find the traditional right-wing media saying, "we knew there was something more to this" and the few left wing ones saying, "no, they're just trying to weedle out of it". This story came on the back of the shooting of two WPCs and therein made any criticism of the police unpopular to say the least.
ithuriel Posted 20 December 2012 Posted 20 December 2012 Police are getting hamered on the Daily Politics show on BBC2, saying just how much they falsify evidence.
Parafox Posted 20 December 2012 Posted 20 December 2012 I'm a staunch supporter of the police in this country, however, It pains me to say it but a close relative was in court this week charged with threatening behaviour. The police interviewed the complainant but bot the defendant until they invited the defendant in for a voluntary interview. They didn't offer the services of a duty solicitor, they didn't record the interview. They said they'd checked CCTV to substantiate the allegation but they hadn't. They'd been to the defendants home and re-assured them that there was going to be no case taken to court. Then they produce a file for court and the summons arrives. NOT IMPRESSED
ithuriel Posted 20 December 2012 Posted 20 December 2012 I'm a staunch supporter of the police in this country, however, It pains me to say it but a close relative was in court this week charged with threatening behaviour. The police interviewed the complainant but bot the defendant until they invited the defendant in for a voluntary interview. They didn't offer the services of a duty solicitor, they didn't record the interview. They said they'd checked CCTV to substantiate the allegation but they hadn't. They'd been to the defendants home and re-assured them that there was going to be no case taken to court. Then they produce a file for court and the summons arrives. NOT IMPRESSED Sounds very similar to how i got ****ed over by them.
Craig Posted 20 December 2012 Posted 20 December 2012 I'm a staunch supporter of the police in this country, however, It pains me to say it but a close relative was in court this week charged with threatening behaviour. The police interviewed the complainant but bot the defendant until they invited the defendant in for a voluntary interview. They didn't offer the services of a duty solicitor, they didn't record the interview. They said they'd checked CCTV to substantiate the allegation but they hadn't. They'd been to the defendants home and re-assured them that there was going to be no case taken to court. Then they produce a file for court and the summons arrives. NOT IMPRESSED If they didn't advise of the right to free and independent legal advice then feel free to PM me to discuss further.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 December 2012 Posted 22 December 2012 Were becoming more like the punjab police day by day!! My experiences have been mixed but lately I have lost alot of respect for the police, my last 2 encounters they have been very unhelpful.
Guest MattP Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24546370 Still waiting for his apology. It's not going to come is it? These people could be lying about you next.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24546370 Still waiting for his apology. It's not going to come is it? These people could be lying about you next. I suspect you to be paranoid, plus very anti police, as other posts you have made infer. My hunch tells me you are an ex con., or have been in biggish trouble with them. These types always come out with crass garbage. Any opportunity to give them a verbal bashing will do.
Webbo Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 I suspect you to be paranoid, plus very anti police, as other posts you have made infer. My hunch tells me you are an ex con., or have been in biggish trouble with them. These types always come out with crass garbage. Any opportunity to give them a verbal bashing will do. The police have been proven to have repeatedly lied . If they'd do it to an MP they'd do it to anyone, how does that make him paranoid?
Zingari Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 The police have been proven to have repeatedly lied . If they'd do it to an MP they'd do it to anyone, how does that make him paranoid? MPs lie too , How do we know who's version of events is the truth . Bit of a storm in a teacup is my opinion though , I don't know why they just didn't let it drop , they're acting like overgrown school kids I've not read the story and everything is not black and white though
Guest MattP Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 I suspect you to be paranoid, plus very anti police, as other posts you have made infer. My hunch tells me you are an ex con., or have been in biggish trouble with them. These types always come out with crass garbage. Any opportunity to give them a verbal bashing will do. Wrong, you work for them don't you? I give you personal permission to look me up if you want. They conducted a lie to try and discredit and lose a man his job for political reasons, the same people expected to give evidence in court and be believed, they should be standing trial themselves. The public have lost confidence in the police force and calling anyone paranoid who wants a responsible law enforcement body that is accountable for it's actions won't do you any favours.
Vacamion Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 Haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone used the phrase "a few bad apples"? It seems like just a few rogue coppers. In any large group - be it nuns, the army, the clergy, nobel prize winners, top politicians, scientists or indeed any gathering, there will be good guys and bad guys. OK, not so many "guys" in the group of nuns. Just because there might be a few wrong 'uns in the police, it does not follow that every single last one of them can't be trusted...
Mike Oxlong Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 Swearing at the police can be fun. I love the confused look on their faces when I walk by with a cheery smile and say "Evening cvnt ... stable".
Webbo Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 Haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone used the phrase "a few bad apples"? It seems like just a few rogue coppers. In any large group - be it nuns, the army, the clergy, nobel prize winners, top politicians, scientists or indeed any gathering, there will be good guys and bad guys. OK, not so many "guys" in the group of nuns. Just because there might be a few wrong 'uns in the police, it does not follow that every single last one of them can't be trusted... The policeman in the original incident is now proven to have lied as the CCTV of the incident contradicts his statement. Then there was a false witness statement that turns out came from an ex policeman. Then when Andrew Mitchell met 3 senior policemen in private they claimed afterwards that he wouldn't elaborate on what he said when his secret taping of the meeting proves that he did. On top of that it has taken the Met more than a year to investigate an open and shut case. Anyway you look at it the police have acted in a disreputable way and have abused their power. Heads must roll.
Vacamion Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 The policeman in the original incident is now proven to have lied as the CCTV of the incident contradicts his statement. Then there was a false witness statement that turns out came from an ex policeman. Then when Andrew Mitchell met 3 senior policemen in private they claimed afterwards that he wouldn't elaborate on what he said when his secret taping of the meeting proves that he did. On top of that it has taken the Met more than a year to investigate an open and shut case. Anyway you look at it the police have acted in a disreputable way and have abused their power. Heads must roll. I agree completely. Just the guilty heads, though...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 16 October 2013 Posted 16 October 2013 Haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone used the phrase "a few bad apples"? It seems like just a few rogue coppers. In any large group - be it nuns, the army, the clergy, nobel prize winners, top politicians, scientists or indeed any gathering, there will be good guys and bad guys. OK, not so many "guys" in the group of nuns. Just because there might be a few wrong 'uns in the police, it does not follow that every single last one of them can't be trusted... Well saidToo many cvcks jump on the bandwagon
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