Langston Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 mickey mouse league like those in Russia and France What an absolute turd of a statement.
Dan Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Neymar struck me as more a Real Madrid type player personally. His raw talent is absolutely sensational and although it'll be a shame to see Barca go a little against using their own youth (which makes them such a respectable club), he does have a pretty good character on him. I respected him for staying at Santos as long as he has done. Mind you he's got to be the most camp footballer I have ever seen, laughable some of his antics. Agreed. Only other sides are PSG, City and Anzhi. He's never going to go to a mickey mouse league like those in Russia and France and he'd get eaten alive in the PL. I would think he's more of a Madrid player than Barcs, though. France is hardly mickey mouse and Hulk joined a far smaller club (Zenit) in the summer than what he already played for. Money talks with these. Eaten alive in the PL don't tell me you're one of these who thinks Messi wouldn't hack it on a Tuesday at Stoke? Physical players don't HAVE to dominate, English football seems to be so built around coping with physical players and it's laughable really, we're getting found out on the international stage and there really is so much more to players than how quick and strong they are. Neymar would tear the Premier a new one.
BlueSi13 Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 Neymar struck me as more a Real Madrid type player personally. His raw talent is absolutely sensational and although it'll be a shame to see Barca go a little against using their own youth (which makes them such a respectable club), he does have a pretty good character on him. I respected him for staying at Santos as long as he has done. Mind you he's got to be the most camp footballer I have ever seen, laughable some of his antics. France is hardly mickey mouse and Hulk joined a far smaller club (Zenit) in the summer than what he already played for. Money talks with these. Eaten alive in the PL don't tell me you're one of these who thinks Messi wouldn't hack it on a Tuesday at Stoke? Physical players don't HAVE to dominate, English football seems to be so built around coping with physical players and it's laughable really, we're getting found out on the international stage and there really is so much more to players than how quick and strong they are. Neymar would tear the Premier a new one. In fairness, how many Brazilian players have come to England and shone? Im struggling to think of any, and if there is they are extremely rare. Nothing wrong with saying that English style football is not quite suitable for a Brazilian. Spain is a perfect choice for such players.
Captain... Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In fairness, how many Brazilian players have come to England and shone? Im struggling to think of any, and if there is they are extremely rare. Nothing wrong with saying that English style football is not quite suitable for a Brazilian. Spain is a perfect choice for such players. Juninhio and Gilberto Silva spring to mind, Lucas had a very good season for Liverpool after some awful ones, Elano and Robinhio have had good spells for Man City. David Luiz and Ramires are doing ok at Chelsea. (Edit and Oscar) There have been a lot more failures than successes though. Edit: Found this article: http://www.goal.com/...d-misses-in-the
BlueSi13 Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 Juninhio and Gilberto Silva spring to mind, Lucas had a very good season for Liverpool after some awful ones, Elano and Robinhio have had good spells for Man City. David Luiz and Ramires are doing ok at Chelsea. (Edit and Oscar) There have been a lot more failures than successes though. Edit: Found this article: http://www.goal.com/...d-misses-in-the Ahh yes Juninho thats a good one, and certainly David Luiz nowadays too But i think the rest you mentioned there were either functional players like Lucas who came in not expecting to set the world ablaze, or just a downright disasters who came in and flopped after the world was promised such as Robinho. It probably just highlights how the English game, climate, language, and culture can be quite alien to a lot of players from that part of the world, and is likely the reason why England tends to be favoured less than Spain by many star players who come from that region.
AKCJ Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 What an absolute turd of a statement. In what way? There are about 3/4 sides of genuine quality in each league. Nothing compared to Spain and miles off England. And the guy below, name the last time a winger came from Brazil and totally bossed it over here. Robinho was rated as highly (although he had been at Madrid first) as Neymar and he did next to nothing when you look at how much he cost. Perhaps to say 'eaten alive' is overstating it, but he wouldn;t be able to express his talent as much as he could in Spain. The only Brazilians that come here and do anything of note are defenders and defensive midfielders and comparing Neymar to Messi is laughable.
Amin Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 Surely the reason why Robinho flopped was because of his mentality rather than his playing style? He did have some great games but at times, particularly during the winter months, he just didn't put the effort in. If I remember correctly he wasn't to thrilled on joining Man City in the first place.
1884Fox Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 Knew this would happen soon but it still feels like a shock, don't know why...
MC Prussian Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 He was only going to join a Spanish or maybe Italian side, anyway. That it had to be Barcelona - I don't know, seems to add even more weight to an already overweight squad with tons of talent. You could argue that it could potentially distort the competition within La Liga even more, helping to create an even bigger gap between the top and the bottom half clubs of the table. In general, the majority of Brazilian footballers have serious issues with playing in cold and/or rainy weather. Looking at where they're coming from, that's understandable. And please stop calling the French or Russian football leagues "Mickey Mouse" - the Ligue 1 produces some very good talent on a regular basis, offers pretty good matches at reasonable prices. Fan support can be a bit "meh" with certain teams, but it's certainly not as bad as many make it out to be. PSG, Lyon, Marseille and to an extent Bordeaux hack it rather well and with more money thrown around, it will get more popular with time. Also, it's great to have Reims back at the top level - hopefully, Monaco, Auxerre, Nantes and Metz will follow soon, too. Same goes for the Russian Premier League - the fan support is incredible (sauf for Anzhi or Terek Grozny maybe due to political reasons) and the standard of play is increasing with each new season. If you only know a little about football history, the names of CSKA, Lokomotiv or Dynamo Moscow will make you long for the old days. The Russian national football team has demonstrated its capabilities and potential at this year's European Championship and they're a dark horse for Brazil 2014 (which they'll make) - if they start learning to cope with the high temperatures down there.
purpleronnie Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 I thought Houston Dynamo had a chance....oh well maybe when he's 38.
LCFCCHRIS Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 He is a good player, watched him at the Olympics But can't see him doing that well at Barcelona for a few years
Dan Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In fairness, how many Brazilian players have come to England and shone? Im struggling to think of any, and if there is they are extremely rare. Nothing wrong with saying that English style football is not quite suitable for a Brazilian. Spain is a perfect choice for such players. None of the genuine Brazilian superstars in the last 10 years have joined the English leagues though. Neymar is better than any Brazilian to play in the Premier that I remember.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In fairness, how many Brazilian players have come to England and shone? Im struggling to think of any, and if there is they are extremely rare. Nothing wrong with saying that English style football is not quite suitable for a Brazilian. Spain is a perfect choice for such players. By that logic, surely "English style football is not quite suitable for a" Spaniard? People were saying that a few years ago.
FoxLAD Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/20169631 at least he's being smart about it.
Danny the Fox 95 Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 In what way? There are about 3/4 sides of genuine quality in each league. Nothing compared to Spain and miles off England. And the guy below, name the last time a winger came from Brazil and totally bossed it over here. Robinho was rated as highly (although he had been at Madrid first) as Neymar and he did next to nothing when you look at how much he cost. Perhaps to say 'eaten alive' is overstating it, but he wouldn;t be able to express his talent as much as he could in Spain. The only Brazilians that come here and do anything of note are defenders and defensive midfielders and comparing Neymar to Messi is laughable. The only quality players are in the league are all in one team Ibra, Lucas, Lavezzi and Thiago Silva.
Raj Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 What? He is over rated. Give me Gareth Bale any day.
Finnegan Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 He is over rated. Give me Gareth Bale any day. Damn right.
Danizen Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 He is over rated. Give me Gareth Bale any day. How exactly is he over rated? Are you a student of the Brazilian game? Do you watch him regularly enough to spot a flaw that the rest of us have missed? I'm interested to know.
Raj Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 How exactly is he over rated? Are you a student of the Brazilian game? Do you watch him regularly enough to spot a flaw that the rest of us have missed? I'm interested to know. My opinion,thats all. Neymar will be known as the one with the silly hair who thought he was the next Gareth Bale
purpleronnie Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 My opinion,thats all. Neymar will be known as the one with the silly hair who thought he was the next Gareth Bale Yeah Gareth bale is famous the world over.
Raj Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 Yeah Gareth bale is famous the world over. Neymar is only famous for his stupid hair and he plays for Brazil. If Bale had stupid hair and played for Brazil he would be worth £250zillion
AKCJ Posted 1 November 2012 Posted 1 November 2012 How exactly is he over rated? Are you a student of the Brazilian game? Do you watch him regularly enough to spot a flaw that the rest of us have missed? I'm interested to know. Do you? I;ve seen enough of him to say that he's a fantastic dribbler and a half decent goalscorer with some extravagant skills to boot. However, he's ridiculously bad at passing and he's also a diver who will sulk if things don't go his way. He has potential, but he's miles away from it. As other have been saying, give me Bale every day of the week (comparing them as probably the two highest rated left wingers outside of Spain). I really don't buy into his hype but i'd love for him to step it up and come to Europe and prove his worth.
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