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Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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I for one am thrilled for them and hope they will be very happy together

 

 

That's very kind and generous of you.

 

I'd have preferred it if Murdoch had got engaged to Dani Behr and become a feminist. Then his married name could have been Rupert Behr. Sadly, I fear this will never happen.

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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That's very kind and generous of you.

I'd have preferred it if Murdoch had got engaged to Dani Behr and become a feminist. Then his married name could have been Rupert Behr. Sadly, I fear this will never happen.

I think it really is the very least he could do

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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How do you misspell terraced as terrorism?

Don't blame the teachers, I rather have them looking for this in the classroom than turning a blind eye to anything.

Steven

Steven

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Don't blame the teachers, they are obliged to report it by law.

Maybe the law needs looking at.

 

 

How do you misspell terraced as terrorism?

Don't blame the teachers, I rather have them looking for this in the classroom than turning a blind eye to anything.

 

How does this spelling mistake constitute suspected terrorist behaviour?  :rolleyes: If anyone seriously believes that this constitutes suspected terrorist behaviour then I suggest they go and find a nice cave to live in. Moreover I wonder whether if a nice white Northern European like myself had written it then would the teachers have reacted in this way. I think not.

 

My suggestion to the pupils at that school is write terrorist every second word and see how ridiculous the teachers seem then. 

 

"2015 Counter-Terrorism and Security Act, which states that teachers are obliged to alert the authorities to any suspected terrorist behaviour."

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Buce

Buce

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How does this spelling mistake constitute suspected terrorist behaviour? :rolleyes: If anyone seriously believes that this constitutes suspected terrorist behaviour then I suggest they go and find a nice cave to live in. Moreover I wonder whether if a nice white Northern European like myself had written it then would the teachers have reacted in this way. I think not.

My suggestion to the pupils at that school is write terrorist every second word and see how ridiculous the teachers seem then.

"2015 Counter-Terrorism and Security Act, which states that teachers are obliged to alert the authorities to any suspected terrorist behaviour."

I think you have a good point regarding the racial profiling.

I'm not sure teachers should be put in this position in the first place, though.

Steven

Steven

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I think you have a good point regarding the racial profiling.

I'm not sure teachers should be put in this position in the first place, though.

 

No argument here.

Buce

Buce

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How do you misspell terraced as terrorism?

Tbf, Matt, we can't know if it was a spelling mistake.

I doubt if English is his first language, and we see worse malapropisms on here - daily - from native speakers.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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How does this spelling mistake constitute suspected terrorist behaviour?  :rolleyes: If anyone seriously believes that this constitutes suspected terrorist behaviour then I suggest they go and find a nice cave to live in. Moreover I wonder whether if a nice white Northern European like myself had written it then would the teachers have reacted in this way. I think not.

 

My suggestion to the pupils at that school is write terrorist every second word and see how ridiculous the teachers seem then. 

 

"2015 Counter-Terrorism and Security Act, which states that teachers are obliged to alert the authorities to any suspected terrorist behaviour."

 

For a start off it was a malpropism, not a spelling mistake.

 

If you seriously can't see why this would be treated differently to a white North European writing it then I don't really know where to begin, you need to follow the news more, whether you like it or not a lot of young Muslims are being radicalised here in places from prisons to madrassas, we have to have viligant staff, this clearly does look like a massve overreaction, but the days of just turning a blind eye to anything and hoping it will go away itself have long gone.

 

The racial profiling arguments are nonsense, the same sort of childish silliness that sees us waste a fortune in resources in an already skint country searching old black and Chinese ladies just so we can please the so called equalities mob. Pathetic.

 

Tbf, Matt, we can't know if it was a spelling mistake.

I doubt if English is his first language, and we see worse malapropisms on here - daily - from native speakers.

 

As I've said above a malpropism is different from a spelling mistake, although if you are right and English wasn't his first language then reporting it does seem ridiculous.

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Steven

Steven

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For a start off it was a malpropism, not a spelling mistake.

 

If you seriously can't see why this would be treated differently to a white North European writing it then I don't really know where to begin, you need to follow the news more, whether you like it or not a lot of young Muslims are being radicalised here in places from prisons to madrassas, we have to have viligant staff, this clearly does look like a massve overreaction, but the days of just turning a blind eye to anything and hoping it will go away itself have long gone.

 

So you think sending Plod round to a Muslim and therefore probably non-white ten year old for a malapropism is more likely or less likely to radicalise young Muslims?

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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So you think sending Plod round to a Muslim and therefore probably non-white ten year old for a malapropism is more likely or less likely to radicalise young Muslims?

 

No, read my post, I said this was clearly an over reaction.

 

We are going to need vigilant staff though in all sorts of institutions to try and spot any signs of children being radicalised though, did you not learn anything from the three young girls who fled to Syria? The teachers there suspected it for a while, when they finally got around to doing something about it and reporting it to the parents it was too late.

Rincewind

Rincewind

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I suppose it depends on what context the word was used. Although the 10 year old may be pretty pissed off with the white teachers and white police officers questioning him over it. One incident like this should not make him a suspect.

The three girls mentioned may have shown more obvious signs such as speaking out openly and trying to influence other pupils.

We do not know about the 10 year old lad. Maybe just extra help in English usage would be more appropriate.

 

Not sure what a malapropism is. Mal is bad in Spanish and also Latin I assume

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Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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I suppose it depends on what context the word was used. Although the 10 year old may be pretty pissed off with the white teachers and white police officers questioning him over it. One incident like this should not make him a suspect.

The three girls mentioned may have shown more obvious signs such as speaking out openly and trying to influence other pupils.

We do not know about the 10 year old lad. Maybe just extra help in English usage would be more appropriate.

 

Not sure what a malapropism is. Mal is bad in Spanish and also Latin I assume

 

How do you know the teachers and police were white? I was speaking to an Inspector over christmas and he said every effort is now made for Muslim officers to attend cases like this because of the sensitivity of it.

 

I've never read that about the three girls either, they appear to have all been radicalised over Twitter.

Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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How do you misspell terraced as terrorism?

Don't blame the teachers, I rather have them looking for this in the classroom than turning a blind eye to anything.

 

 

As Steven suggested, though, couldn't the teacher have exercised common sense without turning a blind eye?

 

Couldn't she have asked: "Well, little Mohammed (or whatever), what do you mean by a 'terrorist' house?".

If he had replied: "My Dad keeps sticking bombs in his belt and walking round the lounge with a gun", she could have called the police

If he had replied: "Our house is stuck onto the houses next door", she could have had a little chuckle and helped him with his spelling

 

Phonetically, "terrorist" and "terraced" are almost identical ("ter-ur-ist" v. "ter-ist") so an easy mistake for a 10-year-old to make, especially if some other language was spoken at home.

Plus "terraced" would be a fairly advanced word for a 10-year-old, I think. Sadly, he would probably have heard the word "terrorist" more often - and not necessarily from Muslims.

Rincewind

Rincewind

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Good points Alf. Don't Leicester people say 'terrist'? He may have seen headlines with 'Terrorist house' The policeman would just have asked him what he meant, something that as an English  teacher they should have done.

Sometimes if I am writing a post on here and watching TV I write a word that I am hearing which has nothing to do with the post.

So he may have been doing homework the same time as the News (6pm) and confused the words.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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As Steven suggested, though, couldn't the teacher have exercised common sense without turning a blind eye?

 

Couldn't she have asked: "Well, little Mohammed (or whatever), what do you mean by a 'terrorist' house?".

If he had replied: "My Dad keeps sticking bombs in his belt and walking round the lounge with a gun", she could have called the police

If he had replied: "Our house is stuck onto the houses next door", she could have had a little chuckle and helped him with his spelling

 

Phonetically, "terrorist" and "terraced" are almost identical ("ter-ur-ist" v. "ter-ist") so an easy mistake for a 10-year-old to make, especially if some other language was spoken at home.

Plus "terraced" would be a fairly advanced word for a 10-year-old, I think. Sadly, he would probably have heard the word "terrorist" more often - and not necessarily from Muslims.

 

Absolutely, as I said if that was the case it sounds like a huge over reaction.

 

I don't blame any teachers in these situations though, when a country has had over 1,000 people (and mainly young ones) go to the extent of travelling to join Islamic State we have to be as vigilant as possible about anything. One more child travelling to join this cult is one too many.

 

We can't get into people homes (as we shouldn't be allowed too) but if you hear anything from a child that could create any sort of thought that they might be next we have a duty of care.

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