Courua Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 I've been a fan of Leicester since Brain Little's stint way back in the day when I was a kid. Been to Wembley to see us get promoted, have followed the team constantly ever since I was a teen. I don't get to go to the games nowdays as I live a bit too far away and I'm not very well off financially so a lot of what I say is from my opinions garnered from here, watching the streams and following the media. Don't get me wrong here, I really want us to succeed in the top flight but I've got to say, honestly, we are not ready to go up again. Pure and simple reason for this is that we do not have the players to survive there yet, not totally at least. Even with a recruitment drive if we got into the premiership we would need too many players which would disrupt harmony again. We do have a squad capable within the championship, that much is obvious. Within the premiership though we lack too much experience. We have a Very young team, admittedly talented, strong, skillful but very prone to form issues so it seems. Our senior players are excellent though, I pray we hold on to Schmichel, Morgan and Nugent as they are the nucleus of our team right now, our star players. This points to another issue, that we have star players in goal, defence and attack, yet none in midfield. I think we all read how so many regular posters we banging their drum about needing a midfield general, I think they were right. In my mind that is the issue with out 'lack of plan B' as well, not because we would be winning the games when we currently are not, but because we would have someone in the middle of the park who would be our anchor to allow others to move about him. We need that holding player, and we need him to bed in with the squad (oooh eer) so that it isa instinctive shift into other formations if we need to change during play. Next season we are most likely going to lose Konchesky due to him not being the player he was, one of either St Ledgeface or Whitbread, Wellens as he is again not the player he was and one of either Vardy, Waghorn or Futacs, of which I would bet Waghorn as the boy does seem to miss a few (not that the others don't, just don't see Pearson dump his pet project in Vardy, plus with Futacs it offers us another dimension). Also Keane will be going which is a shame, with Schlupp maybe following, though we don't know for sure yet. If you take out the 'star' players, the presumed leaving and just remain with the squad I think we end up with an average age of about 23 (this is more a guess at my maths rather than figure checking), a good age for cover players, not first team regulars in the premiership in my mind, not looking at the squad. typically we have 5 players on the pitch younger than 23. They haven't matured into themselves yet, let alone their football skills. We need another transfer window to finish the project, to replace those who will be leaving/retiring, to strengthen the squad with 3 more 'star' players who will push the younger squad on and let them sit back and become the players we need them to be. As it stands though they could be demolished at nearly every ground in the premiership right now. This is admittedly just my opinion, I just don't see it working if we go up is all. 2 seasons from now... Owning it (kinda), just need our last soldiers.
Corky Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 I want to get up. Watching games like today is depressing from an entertainment point of view. I'd rather see us lose to, or sometimes beat, decent quality sides. I'm fed up of this division.
Fox92 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 I don't think half of the teams that win promotion really have players to stay there, some only have one or two 'star' players that could become decent Premier League footballers... I don't think Reading or Southampton (apart from Lallana) had players to survive this season in the Premier League. I didn't think Blackpool (apart from Adam) did the other year either. I'm not being funny or anything, but look at it, we are in the second tier, where we have been for the past nine seasons (including one in League One). That's why we have second tier players, apart from a few that would probably look decent in the Premier League; Knockaert, Nugent and maybe Wood. Do I want us to get promoted? Of course I do. I'd rather visit Anfield than London Road. I'd rather watch Suarez instead of Murray.
Kitchandro Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 Who gives a shit? Either we lose down here or we lose up there. It's depressing failure season after season or a bit of shortlived glory. It's be an average second rate club or a crap first rate club. Besides, if we went up you have no idea how we'd strengthen. I can't believe some people can actually still stand this league.
Webbo Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 There are 90 million reasons why the premiership is a great idea.
Rich Fox Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 One of the most clueless posts I have ever read in my life,
morris1234 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 I actually look forward to international breaks now....saves all these random threads from popping up. We've gone from back on track to completely off the track in 4 days! Apparently
undey Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 Wouldn't you rather us go up, give us the chance of going to some of the worlds best grounds and at least have a chance of staying up than just having another same old championship season? Which will involve a trip to some of the worlds worst grounds.. notably forest and derby, not a coincidence at all
Fox92 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 There are 90 million reasons why the premiership is a great idea.
Monsell1976 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 Like webbo states a lot of money in promotion, and with current debts a well needed financial boost to balance the books would probably be needed. If we did go up I would expect little investment in playing staff first season, and maybe yo yo for a couple of season until the club is not creating so much debt, and then maybe become established premier league. Relegation first season but with parachute payments the club will be in a stronger position.
Greatness_Since_1884 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 The parachute money now probably means it's a better idea to flop like Derby in the PL than to consolidate in mid-table in the Championship.
Corky Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 It's not necessarily about the money. The prestige from winning promotion, the opportunity to take on the best teams in the country for league points, and also different clubs and supporters to visit and have at our place.
Oxfordfox83 Posted 2 March 2013 Posted 2 March 2013 You get better by playing against better, and you can't really get the players to be 100% Top Flight ready unless you're playing there. IF, and it's a big IF, we go up with Cardiff, I think we'll be much stronger than them: so often we see the team that walked the Champ really struggle. Promotion gives us the chance to keep our best players and buy the last few pieces of our squad jigsaw-even if we come down again I think we'll be better for it...
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 Which will involve a trip to some of the worlds worst grounds.. notably forest and derby, not a coincidence at all Objectively speaking, neither Forest or Derby have one of the world's worst grounds. In fact, The City Ground is a constant reminder of what we could have done with Filbert Street. It's horribly managed in the concourses though.
kingfox Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 I'm fed up of this division. How about another season in League 1?
Leicester_Numan Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 If we do go up, I wouldn't mind us doing a West Brom (promotion, relegation, promotion, relegation, promotion, consolidation) it's worked for them and similarly worked for us before. Promotion under Little, relegation, promotion under O'Niell, consolidation. With parachute payments, it's an easier thing to do now than it was then. If we can keep a manager in place, it would probably be easier to keep our most promising players during the yo-yo period as well. Too many of our fans wouldn't have the patience for this approach nowadays though. They'd want the manager sacked if we weren't top of the Prem by October in our first season, same in our first season back down, we'd mess things up for ourselves through our own impatience.
Captain... Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 That Brian Little team wasn't good enough for the prem either, but it gave the club and the players premier league experience and yes we went down, but we came straight back up and stayed there for a few successful years.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 You get better by playing against better, and you can't really get the players to be 100% Top Flight ready unless you're playing there. IF, and it's a big IF, we go up with Cardiff, I think we'll be much stronger than them: so often we see the team that walked the Champ really struggle. Promotion gives us the chance to keep our best players and buy the last few pieces of our squad jigsaw-even if we come down again I think we'll be better for it... This... That Brian Little team wasn't good enough for the prem either, but it gave the club and the players premier league experience and yes we went down, but we came straight back up and stayed there for a few successful years. And this...
Leicesterpool Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 I think if Leicester do go up we'd show a few surprises, we've got a young squad and one or two players have got potential and I do believe players like Knocky would rock the premier league!
leicesterseddon Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 As Fox 92 said, most of the teams that go up don't have the squads to stay there. Fact is, you can't attract 'Premier League quality players' until you're in the, erm...Premier League! Hardly any player worth their salt at the top level would join a club in the second division if they didn't have to.
Corky Posted 3 March 2013 Posted 3 March 2013 How about another season in League 1? No, that was a one-off. Great season but I wouldn't want it again.
flowwolf Posted 4 March 2013 Posted 4 March 2013 I've been a fan of Leicester since Brain Little's stint way back in the day when I was a kid. Been to Wembley to see us get promoted, have followed the team constantly ever since I was a teen. I don't get to go to the games nowdays as I live a bit too far away and I'm not very well off financially so a lot of what I say is from my opinions garnered from here, watching the streams and following the media. Don't get me wrong here, I really want us to succeed in the top flight but I've got to say, honestly, we are not ready to go up again. Pure and simple reason for this is that we do not have the players to survive there yet, not totally at least. Even with a recruitment drive if we got into the premiership we would need too many players which would disrupt harmony again. We do have a squad capable within the championship, that much is obvious. Within the premiership though we lack too much experience. We have a Very young team, admittedly talented, strong, skillful but very prone to form issues so it seems. Our senior players are excellent though, I pray we hold on to Schmichel, Morgan and Nugent as they are the nucleus of our team right now, our star players. This points to another issue, that we have star players in goal, defence and attack, yet none in midfield. I think we all read how so many regular posters we banging their drum about needing a midfield general, I think they were right. In my mind that is the issue with out 'lack of plan B' as well, not because we would be winning the games when we currently are not, but because we would have someone in the middle of the park who would be our anchor to allow others to move about him. We need that holding player, and we need him to bed in with the squad (oooh eer) so that it isa instinctive shift into other formations if we need to change during play. Next season we are most likely going to lose Konchesky due to him not being the player he was, one of either St Ledgeface or Whitbread, Wellens as he is again not the player he was and one of either Vardy, Waghorn or Futacs, of which I would bet Waghorn as the boy does seem to miss a few (not that the others don't, just don't see Pearson dump his pet project in Vardy, plus with Futacs it offers us another dimension). Also Keane will be going which is a shame, with Schlupp maybe following, though we don't know for sure yet. If you take out the 'star' players, the presumed leaving and just remain with the squad I think we end up with an average age of about 23 (this is more a guess at my maths rather than figure checking), a good age for cover players, not first team regulars in the premiership in my mind, not looking at the squad. typically we have 5 players on the pitch younger than 23. They haven't matured into themselves yet, let alone their football skills. We need another transfer window to finish the project, to replace those who will be leaving/retiring, to strengthen the squad with 3 more 'star' players who will push the younger squad on and let them sit back and become the players we need them to be. As it stands though they could be demolished at nearly every ground in the premiership right now. This is admittedly just my opinion, I just don't see it working if we go up is all. 2 seasons from now... Owning it (kinda), just need our last soldiers. No need to worry it's not going to happen.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 4 March 2013 Posted 4 March 2013 Should we go up and taking the owners at face value I don't think they would be shy on bringing in better players, everything they have said and done indicates that the owners see us as a Prem side on the waiting. Also Pearson would need to be seen tobe good enough in the Prem from day 1
goose2010 Posted 4 March 2013 Posted 4 March 2013 Like a few have said i think we would survive in the prem. The main reason is that teams give you so much more time on the ball enabling players to pick a pass, if you watch a championship game where teams have hassled us we have struggled but when they give the likes of drinkwater, king and james time on the ball like Blackburn did we are able to pick teams apart. We would need a few new players definitely but do you really think the owners and back room staff don't no this? money will be given and it will be spent wisely. Any fan that thinks going up is a bad idea to me is crazy, what's the point in just floating around the championship? if we go up and come straight back down, who cares?! it will make us a stronger team the year after. NP is the man to take us up, and more importantly keep us up. Everyone just needs to calm down a bit 36 (i think) points left to play for and we are 5th!
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