Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 But what about the generation who never got to experience what you did. Don't they deserve some semblance of a matchday experience (for want of a better phrase) that resembles those of your youth? There's a massive amount more involved in a 'match day experience' than the actual time of the game. The Spion kops at Filbert St for example.. Millwall away, knowing that you could easily get yer ed kicked in, being another. Standing, cheaper tickets, less 'Health and Safety' being still others. Etc etc.. What's your point exactly? Do you really think if all contemporary games were on a Sat afternoon they'd anywhere near 'resemble our youth'?
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 I appreciate that voll but it wasn't all a bed of roses either believe me! The thing is with nostalgia , your memory is very selective! We didn't have PSs Xbox etc etc....time moves on! Shut up! I used to love my rubber keyed ZX Spectrum and Manic Miner!! Kept me entertained for months. And 'Jet Set Willy'
BrummieFOX Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 People need to have the courage of their convictions on this. Either you want Saturday 3pm football or you don't. Either you think Sky is ****ing up the sport or you don't. Otherwise you might as well have two banners which say... SATURDAY 3 O'CLOCK ONLY! OK, MAYBE 5.20 TOO BUT NOTHING ELSE 4:55 are my faves. In all seriousness, why don't we not go up to the seats for the 1st 5/10mins? Have a good singsong down in the concorse. Might turn a few heads. Then we could send one bloke up to tell everyone we are NOT coming up until its rearranged for 3pm
Bluetintedspecs Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Shut up! I used to love my rubber keyed ZX Spectrum and Manic Miner!! Kept me entertained for months. And 'Jet Set Willy' I only had a home made cattapult n cane fishing rod to keep me happy bud
Voll Blau Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 There's a massive amount more involved in a 'match day experience' than the actual time of the game. The Spion kops at Filbert St for example.. Millwall away, knowing that you could easily get yer ed kicked in, being another. Standing, cheaper tickets, less 'Health and Safety' being still others. Etc etc.. What's your point exactly? Do you really think if all contemporary games were on a Sat afternoon they'd anywhere near 'resemble our youth'? My point is it is possible to have a middle ground and also that 3pm on Saturday is by far the most convenient time for a majority of people to go to a football match. I think it takes other elements (as you mention such as standing, cheaper tickets etc) to get what I think most lads aged 16-30 want out of football. I accept that. I also accept the point you made about people who subscribe to Sky moaning. They've no right to. That's said I'm sure it's a hell of a lot of easier to say people should roll with the times and accept football is a business nowadays blah lah blah if you're a bit older and content to enjoy watching football without the desire to stand and sing/can afford to take time off to watch games re-arranged to stupid times/can wax lyrical about how much you enjoyed "the good old days", but those aren't options many lads in the aforementioned age group have.
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 My point is it is possible to have a middle ground and also that 3pm on Saturday is by far the most convenient time for a majority of people to go to a football match. I think it takes other elements (as you mention such as standing, cheaper tickets etc) to get what I think most lads aged 16-30 want out of football. I accept that. I also accept the point you made about people who subscribe to Sky moaning. They've no right to. That's said I'm sure it's a hell of a lot of easier to say people should roll with the times and accept football is a business nowadays blah lah blah if you're a bit older and content to enjoy watching football without the desire to stand and sing/can afford to take time off to watch games re-arranged to stupid times/can wax lyrical about how much you enjoyed "the good old days", but those aren't options many lads in the aforementioned age group have. Personally mate, I'd love to stand in L1.. However, I choose to take my disabled mum to games. We all have our demands, regardless of age. Work, money, kids, mums.. Whatever they are. And as for 'waxing lyrical' about the Little and MON years.. You ain't gonna stop me doing that.. I fookin loved it all.
Voll Blau Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Personally mate, I'd love to stand in L1.. However, I choose to take my disabled mum to games. We all have our demands, regardless of age. Work, money, kids, mums.. Whatever they are. And as for 'waxing lyrical' about the Little and MON years.. You ain't gonna stop me doing that.. I fookin loved it all. That's fair enough pal. Used to go to games with my grandad when I was young and there's no way I'd expect him to stand if he was still alive and able to go to games today. Like I say though, I think everyone deserves to enjoy the match the way they want and at a time that's convenient for the majority - which is Saturday at 3pm.
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 That's fair enough pal. Used to go to games with my grandad when I was young and there's no way I'd expect him to stand if he was still alive and able to go to games today. Like I say though, I think everyone deserves to enjoy the match the way they want and at a time that's convenient for the majority - which is Saturday at 3pm. Well if that's what you really think then I'm still not sure why the Club isn't being implicated also. Surely the football club must be bowing to SKY's demands for financial gain? If so, any campaign should also be about the club. Or I would have thought?
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 I only had a home made cattapult n cane fishing rod to keep me happy bud And a whip and top? Surely..
Bluetintedspecs Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 And a whip and top? Surely.. Uncanny I nearly put that too mate
Oxfordfox83 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Thoughts on this: 1. Hate Murdoch. 2. The money they 'pour into the game' isn't charity. It's subscriptions, our money, and it hasn't really benefitted anyone except the players (or, to quote 98% of threads on all football forums 'overpaid primadonna b*****ds') and their agents. 3. Seriously, really hate Murdoch. 4. The effect has been that ticket prices have shot up-it's not just football, compare the price of test match cricket tickets pre-Sky. 5. Murdoch. Poisoner of minds, polluter of politics. 6. I really don't see the quality of the game has improved massively. Players are fitter, quicker, and wear jazzier kits, but I'd prefer to watch 80s Liverpool over 10s United, Gazza over Rooney, the European Cup over the Champions League and Division 2 over the sticky drink/Russian gas Championship. 7. The whole thing reeks of massive, corrupt monopoly, and everyone who rivals Sky goes out of business (sometimes nearly taking football clubs with them...) 8. That's probably about it. But I'd hate a penny of my money to benefit Murdoch, because he's an evil vampire on too many aspects of our lives. Ta.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Thoughts on this: 1. Hate Murdoch. 2. The money they 'pour into the game' isn't charity. It's subscriptions, our money, and it hasn't really benefitted anyone except the players (or, to quote 98% of threads on all football forums 'overpaid primadonna b*****ds') and their agents. 3. Seriously, really hate Murdoch. 4. The effect has been that ticket prices have shot up-it's not just football, compare the price of test match cricket tickets pre-Sky. 5. Murdoch. Poisoner of minds, polluter of politics. 6. I really don't see the quality of the game has improved massively. Players are fitter, quicker, and wear jazzier kits, but I'd prefer to watch 80s Liverpool over 10s United, Gazza over Rooney, the European Cup over the Champions League and Division 2 over the sticky drink/Russian gas Championship. 7. The whole thing reeks of massive, corrupt monopoly, and everyone who rivals Sky goes out of business (sometimes nearly taking football clubs with them...) 8. That's probably about it. But I'd hate a penny of my money to benefit Murdoch, because he's an evil vampire on too many aspects of our lives. Ta. Do you have sky Oxfordfox83?
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Thoughts on this: 1. Hate Murdoch. 2. The money they 'pour into the game' isn't charity. It's subscriptions, our money, and it hasn't really benefitted anyone except the players (or, to quote 98% of threads on all football forums 'overpaid primadonna b*****ds') and their agents. 3. Seriously, really hate Murdoch. 4. The effect has been that ticket prices have shot up-it's not just football, compare the price of test match cricket tickets pre-Sky. 5. Murdoch. Poisoner of minds, polluter of politics. 6. I really don't see the quality of the game has improved massively. Players are fitter, quicker, and wear jazzier kits, but I'd prefer to watch 80s Liverpool over 10s United, Gazza over Rooney, the European Cup over the Champions League and Division 2 over the sticky drink/Russian gas Championship. 7. The whole thing reeks of massive, corrupt monopoly, and everyone who rivals Sky goes out of business (sometimes nearly taking football clubs with them...) 8. That's probably about it. But I'd hate a penny of my money to benefit Murdoch, because he's an evil vampire on too many aspects of our lives. Ta. So you don't have SKY?
Walshy5 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 At home v millwall sing:- oh sky tv is full of cvnts. We want our games to be on saturday. And our kick off to be at 3!
Oxfordfox83 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 So you don't have SKY? Nope. Pissed off they bought O2 broadband-am seriously considering moving it...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Nope. Pissed off they bought O2 broadband-am seriously considering moving it... Fair play to you then!
Deucalion Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Sky can deduct points from clubs who don't move games to fit their schedules. I have Sky. I live on a new estate and there is no cable. I have sports but I don't watch it that often. I do not see a problem with enjoying parts of something while pointing out the flaws in other parts. The amount of our home games moved is outrageous and they obviously have no regard for the fans who go and watch games live. We already live in what amounts to a police state and from some people's attitudes towards protesting about something, full blown fascism wouldn't be that hard to achieve!
Fox92 Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Sky can deduct points from clubs who don't move games to fit their schedules. Really? I did not know that. Seriously, if they have the power to do that, then that is just messed up and wrong.
Deucalion Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Really? I did not know that. Seriously, if they have the power to do that, then that is just messed up and wrong. They were saying this on Talksport the other day, that is where I heard it from.
Guesty Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 There are so many branches to this argument. It could be argued without Sky all the good players would go to Spain and Italy, etc. I think if Sky are going to move games then season-ticket holders or anyone who bought a ticket before the game was moved should receive a discount from the Sky money not some bullshit bring a friend along when I'm in a season-ticket only holders area. But realistically I'm biased because I'm a season ticket holder. I think they should only be allowed to move a certain amount of any clubs home games I don't mind a few but the amount we've had is a joke. I also think if anyone wants to protest then fair enough they should be allowed to. It might start off as something small but could soon snowball. If no-one does anything at all then Sky will just run rough-shod over all fans. All companies care about PR. I also think even though the club have to playcate Sky they should release a statement saying how annoyed they are. Because they might find a lot of fans start abandoning season-tickets/home games. Of course some people are lucky enough to say support your team go to all matches or you're not a real fan - but thats unrealistic and I assume younger, childless or local fans - there are people with kids, or don't live locally who can't make mid-week games. If the club hits rough times Sky won't want to know and they might find it hard to win back fans who've left because they feel the club care more about Sky than their own fans. It's a bit like the league cup - big clubs and their fans don't give a toss about it until they find it's the only thing left.
leicsmac Posted 14 March 2013 Posted 14 March 2013 Thoughts on this: 1. Hate Murdoch. 2. The money they 'pour into the game' isn't charity. It's subscriptions, our money, and it hasn't really benefitted anyone except the players (or, to quote 98% of threads on all football forums 'overpaid primadonna b*****ds') and their agents. 3. Seriously, really hate Murdoch. 4. The effect has been that ticket prices have shot up-it's not just football, compare the price of test match cricket tickets pre-Sky. 5. Murdoch. Poisoner of minds, polluter of politics. 6. I really don't see the quality of the game has improved massively. Players are fitter, quicker, and wear jazzier kits, but I'd prefer to watch 80s Liverpool over 10s United, Gazza over Rooney, the European Cup over the Champions League and Division 2 over the sticky drink/Russian gas Championship. 7. The whole thing reeks of massive, corrupt monopoly, and everyone who rivals Sky goes out of business (sometimes nearly taking football clubs with them...) 8. That's probably about it. But I'd hate a penny of my money to benefit Murdoch, because he's an evil vampire on too many aspects of our lives. Ta. This, this, this this THIS. I find it difficult to utterly despise a person I have never met and interacted with, but pretty much the entire Murdoch family fit the bill for me. The worst kind of oligarchs who are able to vastly influence political opinion in the most powerful countries despite never having stood in an election in their lives. The true example of how money buys political power through the popular media.
kingfox Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Sky is the best Sky is the best If you can't afford Sky You are just a poor fooker Sky is the best
Bert Posted 15 March 2013 Posted 15 March 2013 Wouldn't it be great for every player to have "Saturday 3pm" on their under armours. Even if we didn't score, they could do it at the end of the game.
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