Hugo Sanchez Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Cardiff promoted to the premier league but sold their soul to achieve it Or Portsmouth relegated to league 2 but owned by the fans. I'd rather support pompey in all honesty.
Floating Fox Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Agreed, Pompey for me too...no ridic K.o times or moved at last minute. Interesting stadiums and decent ticket prices. Football for the fans. Not ruining the club financially to get to the top either!
Guest Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Everyone is going to say Portsmouth and then half are going to bemoan the City if they don't get promotion.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 17 April 2013 Author Posted 17 April 2013 I would honestly rather play in league 2 then be playing in red. Their owner basically changed their club to achieve it.
21st Century Fox Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Portsmouth. One of my best friends is a Pompey fan and he's pretty up beat at the moment, looking forward to rising from the ashes so to speak. It'd always feel like being under the Sword of Damocles with Vincent Tan owning you. Self confessed ruthless business man, with little or no interest in the club and could hold you to ransom at any moment to make changes he feels like.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Portsmouth. Besides all the footballing reasons, also because I love the overnight ferry crossing to Caen, whereas Cardiff... it's in Wales. I'm not fooled by the adverts romanticising Wales. I've been, it's just a massive wet field with a hill they call a "mountain".
purpleronnie Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 cool sig...alex kidd...i remember completing that game back in the day.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 cool sig...alex kidd...i remember completing that game back in the day. Likewise, one of Pearl Jam's greatest
purpleronnie Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Likewise, one of Pearl Jam's greatest whether you like it or not we are now best friends.
RobHawk Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Cardiff didn't get promoted - The malaysia red dragons based in Cardiff did! (FYI i do not thats not technically correct) In 5 years time the league posiions could be reversed but Pompey would still have their pride and their history! I have no specific issue with foreign owners and think top has so far done a good job with us! But if he wanted to call us the Leicester Lionhearts and make us play in red because its an easier sell abroad- I would go apeshit! We are who we are and if top didn't ;like that he shouldn't have bought the club - Thats my view anyways!
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 whether you like it or not we are now best friends. Okey doke. It's your round
purpleronnie Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Okey doke. It's your round I've changed my mind.
kingfox Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Portsmouth, I quite like them as a club. Wouldn't want to cross into Wales, so I wouldn't choose Cardiff.
Simmo86 Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Pompey. No question Cardiff sold out for one season in the Prem getting their arses handed to them every week.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 whether you like it or not we are now best friends. Nevermind Julian.
Fox92 Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Why have they sold their 'soul'? - They haven't changed their history have they? They've only changed their kit colour and nickname haven't they? Bored of these threads actually. Do you think Cardiff fans care? Probably not, they are playing at Anfield, Old Trafford and White Hart Lane next season in the top flight, against players such as Suarez, Tevez and Van Persie.
Finnegan Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Cardiff. They changed their kit and badge, big whoop. People bang on about Leeds as if they're some footballing Goliath but they've done both of those things. I'd rather support Shepshed Dynamo than MK Dons, who bought themselves a league position, but Cardiff are just Cardiff. Same fans, same city, same ground, same memories. You could call us Leicester Foxes, Leicester Fosse, whatever. Play is in green, red, yellow, I don't care. I'd still remember Muzzy's overhead kick, Heskey's equalizer at Wembley, Coatsworth against Luton. A club is the people, the city, the history. The rest is just aesthetic. I've had this argument numerous times and I know I'm in the minority, given up trying to convince anyone. I know I'm supposed to be appalled and to get upset about "modern football" and to wank off over camp tifo displays and any club from somewhere vaguely exotic waving a flare but I just don't feel it. If LCFC price me out, I'll be angry. If the owners rinse us to get rich and leave us bankrupt, I'll be angry. But anyone who'd stop going PURELY because of a change to kit colour? I'm going to use a phrase the cool kids like.... You're not a real fan.
Dan Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Portsmouth. This question really is... do you support your club, or success at all costs?
Kitchandro Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Why have they sold their 'soul'? - They haven't changed their history have they? They've only changed their kit colour and nickname haven't they? Bored of these threads actually. Do you think Cardiff fans care? Probably not, they are playing at Anfield, Old Trafford and White Hart Lane next season in the top flight, against players such as Suarez, Tevez and Van Persie. No, Cardiff fans don't care. Which is why I'm glad we're not them. I can't say it would be the case, but I'd hope our fans would care if something like that happened. You always strike me as someone who buys into the Premier League lie. You obssess over players like Suarez and Van Persie, frankly if I never see them play in person I couldn't care less. I want to see us play Liverpool and Man Utd because I want us to be considered as the elite, competing with the big clubs and beating them. Not because I'm mesmerized by talented but overpaid foreigners. Cardiff are having it great now on the pitch. Well guess what, Portsmouth were having it even better 5 years ago. They've have had their time, and Cardiff are having theirs. It's only temporary, as is the case with all medium sized clubs. In fact, most of the bigger clubs have changing fortunes as well, not many stay up there and live the dream forever. Look at Villa, they might even go down. They have sold their history, their history lies with the bluebirds. Who play in blue. They are now the Red Dragons. Is temporary success worth that? Absolutely not. They'll be back down the mountain sooner or later, and then they'll just be a sad sell-out club with nothing to be proud of.
Fox92 Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 No, Cardiff fans don't care. Which is why I'm glad we're not them. I can't say it would be the case, but I'd hope our fans would care if something like that happened. You always strike me as someone who buys into the Premier League lie. You obssess over players like Suarez and Van Persie, frankly if I never see them play in person I couldn't care less. I want to see us play Liverpool and Man Utd because I want us to be considered as the elite, competing with the big clubs and beating them. Not because I'm mesmerized by talented but overpaid foreigners. Cardiff are having it great now on the pitch. Well guess what, Portsmouth were having it even better 5 years ago. They've have had their time, and Cardiff are having theirs. It's only temporary, as is the case with all medium sized clubs. In fact, most of the bigger clubs have changing fortunes as well, not many stay up there and live the dream forever. Look at Villa, they might even go down. They have sold their history, their history lies with the bluebirds. Who play in blue. They are now the Red Dragons. Is temporary success worth that? Absolutely not. They'll be back down the mountain sooner or later, and then they'll just be a sad sell-out club with nothing to be proud of. But my point was, Cardiff have not sold their history by changing their club colours... ... Leeds changed their club colours to white, but did/does that wipe out their history before it? Don't think so. I'm not going to get into all this debate again, of course everyone here is going to post Portsmouth, but Cardiff are the ones in the top flight. I'm not into the PL thing (or whatever), but I just feel that Cardiff are the ones playing against those top clubs and players. Both Arsenal and Manchester United changed their kit colours to Red. Arsenal even had two different names before settling on Arsenal. Does it matter? No. Like Cardiff, they haven't sold their history, I guess they've just 're-developed'. The history is still there, which is the main thing.
foxfanazer Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Man utd or someone like Swansea? This is far more interesting imo. Would you want leicester to be like United, title after title, domestic cup wins? Would it be exciting winning the title for the 18th time? Probably would be there'd be a certain amount of "well there we go again". Got a few mates that are united fans and they couldn't care less about the FA cup or capital one, would you want to feel like that about leicester? Would you want to be the club that are expected to win it all? Them you have a club like Swansea. Probably punching above their weight but playing quite attractive football. Pulling off the occasional scalp against the bigger sides and having a good go in the cups. Winning the Capital one cup was massive for them and surviving in the prem even bigger. Good times ahead for them by the look of it Ok I know I'll get slated for this but give me the ups and downs over nullified success any day
Finnegan Posted 17 April 2013 Posted 17 April 2013 Difficult one because I'd love us to be in the Champs League but I'd be bored if we won every game easily. I used to have a season ticket at the Tigers and it was okay but you never really got games like last night that were a proper emotional rollercoaster. I'd be happy as a consistent, top half team that played nice football.
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