Bye Bye Pearson

[Monsell1976]

Sven was a gamble that didn't pay off, with the money spent and taking in the attraction Sven got worldwide, if we had kept him and been promoted we would probably have broken even with the premier league money. I think the owners made mistakes, in there panic to get promotion they sacked him to early, they should have seen the season out with Sven, couldn't have finish any worse, I think the minimum Sven would have achieved would have been mid table, which is what we ended up with.

[5waller5]

Wether you liked Sven or not he wasn't given time,Pearson on the other hand has been given to much time, half a season to see what he needed and a full season to produced, he has failed miserably.

Both Sven and Pearson are like marmite, you either love them or hated them.

Now is the time to get rid, if he stays I have a feeling we will start the season as we ended it, and none of us want another wasted season.

Time for a proven, talented manager please.

I was about to agree with every word ..... Until the last line .... for me a talented manager, yes, but not necessarily proven...... Di Canio type manager would suit me just fine - someone showing massive promise with great football philosophy, but not necessarily with loads on the managerial CV.

If Lampard could be attracted to his first manager's job i'd take him in an instant.

Otherwise RDM.

But please ..... someone that makes it exciting to be a leicester fan again. Sven definitely achieved that.

[5waller5]

I really wish people would stop banging on defending Pearson by what he has achieved through the financial constraints he has had to work under..you simply don't know what they are/were.

All that matters is results and league position, his objective has to have been playoffs as a minimum and in that he has failed, fail to do your job in the real world and your shown the door.

Simply put he has to go, and the sooner now the better,it's no good moaning on about who can replace him either, there are decent managers out there, at least six in the championship alone that I can name that have done a better job than him this season!

THIS, THIS. THIS.

It's driving me mad that people have been justifying failure all season with an unknown measure that has never been a measure of his success anyway!!!

[dogadug]

I thought Sven was bad but NP takes it to a whole new level.

Oh dear...

[Happy Fox]

Oh dear...

Footballing results wise in the league Sven is better than NP though

Although imo they are both as bad as each other so quantifying how poor they are isn't the best thing to do

[Guest ttfn]

Really?

Have you seen the financial situation Sven built up that will hinder us for years & years to come

It probably looks like NP has just missed out on the playoffs, although Bolton could easily lose today & we take it into the final game.... something which Sven could only dream of, despite blowing the club's future.

I've been at pains to explain this before, but Pearson had the benefit of starting the season on 0 points from 0 games this season. Sven started with a team that were in the bottom 3 and absolutely shorn of confidence. Yet between his appointment and the end of the season, we picked up the 7th most points in the league (in fact the only teams who got more than us in that time were the actual top 6), so I think it is reasonable to conclude that Sven could have done more than just dream of being in as good a position as NP given similar circumstances.

[ithuriel]

Both failed, both had able backing and yet were not up to doing what they were asked unfortunately. I backed Sven until the point I considered him to be not up to the task and Nigel has now lost my backing too. Whether the Thai's believe he still can do the job is another matter but if what I had heard is true he will be gone after the Forest game.

[inckley fox]

I really wish people would stop banging on defending Pearson by what he has achieved through the financial constraints he has had to work under..you simply don't know what they are/were.

All that matters is results and league position, his objective has to have been playoffs as a minimum and in that he has failed, fail to do your job in the real world and your shown the door.

Simply put he has to go, and the sooner now the better,it's no good moaning on about who can replace him either, there are decent managers out there, at least six in the championship alone that I can name that have done a better job than him this season!

I think now it's a case of people being unwilling to admit they were wrong, which is what I've had to do.

None of these arguments hold anymore.

1. Every fan of every other club in the Championship would rightly ridicule the claim that he's done well considering the financial constraints he's had. Firstly because he's not done well, secondly because he inherited the most expensive side in the division and then proceeded to spend more on it than all bar three clubs in the division. As for wages, well we don't know what the wages are but I doubt it's the sort of reduction made by Levein eight years ago.

2. The argument that he's not had long enough is equally absurd - he's had longer than Taylor, Bassett, Levein, Kelly, Allen, Megson, Holloway, Sousa and Sven and people are quite happy to dismiss their tenures as failures. After eighteen months O'Neill had us safe in the Premier League, Little had us in the play-off zone, having made the final at the end of the previous season. Oh and four of our current competitors' bosses have been in a job for less time than NP.

3. Finally this idea that we've made progress is very, very questionable. Pearson's win percentage is lower than his predecessor's, we're on roughly the same number of points as we had for the past two seasons and we're at the back end of one of the worst runs in the club's entire history. Surely that's the worst definition of progress ever? Is the notion of progress based entirely on the fact that we've replaced aging under-performers with younger under-performers? Once again, look at Levein...

[MC Prussian]

I really wish people would stop banging on defending Pearson by what he has achieved through the financial constraints he has had to work under..you simply don't know what they are/were.

All that matters is results and league position, his objective has to have been playoffs as a minimum and in that he has failed, fail to do your job in the real world and your shown the door.

Simply put he has to go, and the sooner now the better,it's no good moaning on about who can replace him either, there are decent managers out there, at least six in the championship alone that I can name that have done a better job than him this season!

Exactly. We don't know what the financial constraints are, but there must be some, otherwise we would've added more players in January.

Besides, he hasn't failed to get us into the playoffs yet. Last time I checked, we still had one more fixture to go.

People banging on about the comparison between football and the "real world", when they are two different sets altogether. In the real world, you don't play just 46 matches each season.

[Stuliasz]

I see words like 'disgrace' and phrases like 'we are so shit its unreal' and wonder if I'm dreaming all of this and in reality we actually got relegated last night. I dread to think what the fans of teams who are genuinely performing disgracefully and are so shit it's unreal think of us. The truth is we have marginally underachieved this season. Failing to make the playoffs will be a disappointment in anyone's book but do we really need another overhaul? Because that's what we'll get if we replace NP. Major changes made by the wrong person (I see Mark Hughes' name mentioned and cringe) could be considerably more crippling for the club in the long-term than failing to meet our seasonal target in the short term.

I agree that this squad is not quite good enough to challenge for promotion over the course of a season at the moment and we are going to finish in the league where we deserve to finish. But with the experience of this season behind them, a few careful additions to the squad in the summer, we will be in a much stronger position to challenge than if we have to go through the whole rigmarole of wholesale changes again.

[inckley fox]

I see words like 'disgrace' and phrases like 'we are so shit its unreal' and wonder if I'm dreaming all of this and in reality we actually got relegated last night. I dread to think what the fans of teams who are genuinely performing disgracefully and are so shit it's unreal think of us. The truth is we have marginally underachieved this season. Failing to make the playoffs will be a disappointment in anyone's book but do we really need another overhaul? Because that's what we'll get if we replace NP. Major changes made by the wrong person (I see Mark Hughes' name mentioned and cringe) could be considerably more crippling for the club in the long-term than failing to meet our seasonal target in the short term.

I agree that this squad is not quite good enough to challenge for promotion over the course of a season at the moment and we are going to finish in the league where we deserve to finish. But with the experience of this season behind them, a few careful additions to the squad in the summer, we will be in a much stronger position to challenge than if we have to go through the whole rigmarole of wholesale changes again.

I think there's a strong argument here, but a new manager doesn't have to mean wholesale changes. We didn't have wholesale changes immediately after Little and especially O'Neill's arrivals.

[5waller5]

I think there's a strong argument here, but a new manager doesn't have to mean wholesale changes. We didn't have wholesale changes immediately after Little and especially O'Neill's arrivals.

?????? I usually agree with you ..... But we did have massive changes after both of their appointments!!!

[Stuliasz]

I think there's a strong argument here, but a new manager doesn't have to mean wholesale changes. We didn't have wholesale changes immediately after Little and especially O'Neill's arrivals.

You may be right, I was only a kid when both of those managers arrived but with Little and O'Neill, you're talking about an entirely different era. In the past decade, we've experienced more manager changes than most and the majority have made lots of changes in a very short space of time. Martin Allen and Craig Levein spring to mind and they didn't have the same kind of resources at their disposal as we do now.

It seems that most managers these days will always want to show that their approach is different from the previous 'failed' manager and so will always make vast changes. It's all part of the short-termism approach that has taken over football and it worries me with our owners after what they allowed Sven to do that it could happen again, and I think that could be particularly harmful to the club in the long-term.

[Bayfox]

Uwe rosler?

[inckley fox]

?????? I usually agree with you ..... But we did have massive changes after both of their appointments!!!

Little signed five players and sold four in summer 1991. There were only three changes to the first team for the start of the season (Poole, Platnaeur and Fitzpatrick).

O'Neill signed three permanent signings between December 1995 and the end of the season, then three more in the close season. The majority of the team on the opening day of 96-97 were not O'Neill signings (Grayson, Whitlow, Walsh, Robins, Heskey, Taylor).

Hardly massive compared to the thirteen permanent players and twelve loans Sven that had signed within ten months, or the 7/8 players who played in our opening matches this season, having not kicked a ball for Pearson's predecessor.

[pazzerfox]

I like the way Nigel Pearson gets the team motivated, I like the way he bloods young talent into the squad and I like some of the football he tries to play. BUT, many games have had a familiar pattern. Us having the majority of the ball without really creating an awful lot, the opposition nicking a goal, then us making the same changes, hitting the same long diagonals in search of an equaliser, but never really looking like getting one. I still think he is the man for the job, but he is still short of some quality. We need another center half to play along side Wes, some real quality from the middle of the park, and a tricky winger.

I do question his tactics at times. When we have Nugent, Kane and Wood on the pictch, surely we need to get quality into the box which mean getting down the flanks!! These long diagonals get eaten up by center halves all day long. It proved what a half decent ball could do when Konch crossed for Kane to score.

[5waller5]

Little signed five players and sold four in summer 1991. There were only three changes to the first team for the start of the season (Poole, Platnaeur and Fitzpatrick).

O'Neill signed three permanent signings between December 1995 and the end of the season, then three more in the close season. The majority of the team on the opening day of 96-97 were not O'Neill signings (Grayson, Whitlow, Walsh, Robins, Heskey, Taylor).

Hardly massive compared to the thirteen permanent players and twelve loans Sven that had signed within ten months, or the 7/8 players who played in our opening matches this season, having not kicked a ball for Pearson's predecessor.

I bow to your superior research!!!!!!! It really didn't feel like that and i don't remember it that way!!! Especially Little - I thought he made massive squad changes ..... maybe it was because in general less players were signed and moved back then and it seemed more??

[inckley fox]

I bow to your superior research!!!!!!! It really didn't feel like that and i don't remember it that way!!! Especially Little - I thought he made massive squad changes ..... maybe it was because in general less players were signed and moved back then and it seemed more??

There's truth in that. And he did make big changes, just continually rather than abruptly.

[the-blue-wildabeast]

Let's not forget the owners when interviewing potential managers will be able to stipulate that any new manager works with the bulk of what we have while being giving backing to address the problem areas we are all aware of. I'm sure lots of managers would be happy to work with the group with have while letting 2-3 go to bring in 2-3 of their own players. Some managers may not like that, that's what interviews are for.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Has he gone yet?

[It's A Knockeart!]

I like the way Nigel Pearson gets the team motivated, I like the way he bloods young talent into the squad and I like some of the football he tries to play. BUT, many games have had a familiar pattern. Us having the majority of the ball without really creating an awful lot, the opposition nicking a goal, then us making the same changes, hitting the same long diagonals in search of an equaliser, but never really looking like getting one. I still think he is the man for the job, but he is still short of some quality. We need another center half to play along side Wes, some real quality from the middle of the park, and a tricky winger.

I do question his tactics at times. When we have Nugent, Kane and Wood on the pictch, surely we need to get quality into the box which mean getting down the flanks!! These long diagonals get eaten up by center halves all day long. It proved what a half decent ball could do when Konch crossed for Kane to score.

The top paragraph is the story of our season, every single game we lose. It's always the same, lack of concentration and lack of belief. That is a management issue I'm afraid and should have been coached out of them after the second time it happened.

[flowwolf]

Has he gone yet?

Yes he was last seen rowing down the canal in one of his trainers.

[EnglishOxide]

The top paragraph is the story of our season, every single game we lose. It's always the same, lack of concentration and lack of belief. That is a management issue I'm afraid and should have been coached out of them after the second time it happened.

On the flip side, he has persisted with 4-4-2 which gives attacking players more license to be creative. It's the players who have not made things happen on the pitch which is the problem, and a certain amount of motivation and concentration needs to come from within.

The players clearly still like the manager and have belief in him, hence the spirited displays recently, from interviews i think they know that they have let themselves down. This season will have been a good experience for them. An older head, and a couple of quality players in addition to the squad we have would be very good. I hope we keep Pearson, this is his side and he will know the weaknesses and address them. We just need to sign Keane, and hang onto the likes of Kasper, De Laet, James, Nuge and Wood and we have a great spine there.

People need to realise that if we had gone straight up 4-5-1 this season and played shit football, we still wouldn't have won many games, whether they were 1-0 or whatever, because we have shown that from set pieces we are dire (although i think we have improved in that area recently). The fact is that at 4-4-2, and often 4-3-3, the players have had license to attack and failed.

It would be smart to keep the manager. He knows the club, he knows the weaknesses. Get a new manager and we start all over again, and we certainly cannot afford to get rid of half the team and replace them.

[Karljohn]

He's let four centre backs go, mills, bamba, tunchev and st ledger then asked Wes and a man utd rookie to do a job, you would think as a centre back himself he would get this sorted first. Konchesky has no competition at left back, and would have lost his place if we had some, he's made a balls up in the area of the pitch he made a living from himself.

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