Schmeichel to go then?

[HEGGSY]

Schmeichel to stay and sign a new deal...

I'm sidekick and can see into the future

Sidekick?

[lestajigs]

He might, he also might not and then walk away on a free which a club in our financial position simply cannot risk happening.

You can't keep everyone on the wage bill on the off chance they 'mght get us promoted' - Football is a bit more complex than that.

Id rather us keep hold of our spine on the team, not be a arsenal and sell any good player we get,

[Guest MattP]

Id rather us keep hold of our spine on the team, not be a arsenal and sell any good player we get,

 

Well we all would but we aren't in a position anymore where we can spend or have a outgoing of as much as we want due to FFP. Letting a player would we can get millions for stay for a season and walk away on a free isn't an option for most clubs let alone ones in a financial position like ours.

 

I'd be quite happy to be an Arsenal and have 130million cash reserves in the bank (which they can now spend with no restriction) and be 4th in the Premier League rather than 90million in debt and stuck in the Championship.

[Guest]

Well we all would but we aren't in a position anymore where we can spend or have a outgoing of as much as we want due to FFP. Letting a player would we can get millions for stay for a season and walk away on a free isn't an option for most clubs let alone ones in a financial position like ours.

 

I'd be quite happy to be an Arsenal and have 130million cash reserves in the bank (which they can now spend with no restriction) and be 4th in the Premier League rather than 90million in debt and stuck in the Championship.

 

 

He might, he also might not and then walk away on a free which a club in our financial position simply cannot risk happening.

 

You can't keep everyone on the wage bill on the off chance they 'mght get us promoted' - Football is a bit more complex than that.

 

We're not in a 'financial position'. Wages are the key to FPP and our need to get rid of dead wood. The owners probably don't want to keep pouring in without some comeback either but I'm yet to see anything to make me think they won't spend if necessary (although that said I don't expect much net outlay this summer). They haven't called time on their debts and we are in no need of fast bucks for quality players. Its the players we don't want that we need to get rid of.

[Guest MattP]

We're not in a 'financial position'. Wages are the key to FPP and our need to get rid of dead wood. The owners probably don't want to keep pouring in without some comeback either but I'm yet to see anything to make me think they won't spend if necessary (although that said I don't expect much net outlay this summer). They haven't called time on their debts and we are in no need of fast bucks for quality players. Its the players we don't want that we need to get rid of.

 

A 90million debt is a pretty bad 'financial position' for a business with our turnover.

 

I agree wages are the key and we need to shift out the deadwood but It's been widely spoken (and by a few itk like bert) that NP has to sell before he buys. (and what happens if we can't shift it out?)

 

Of course the Thais won't call in the debt! 1 - They can't as we don't have the money and 2 - They are charging us 8% interest on it.

 

As for further 'investment', for me that's a strict thanks but no thanks, the last thing a Championship club with our outgoings and debt needs is even more debt piled on top.

[TheUltimateWinner]

@themartinsamuel: With Arsenal rumours dominated by big names, LCFC keeper Schmeichel is allegedly due to be signed under the radar #lcfc

 

Pinch of salt, it's from the Daily Fail's chief writer.

[ealingfox]

Let's have some of this 70 million then. 7 million should do it....

[ToeKneeHandCock]

@themartinsamuel: With Arsenal rumours dominated by big names, LCFC keeper Schmeichel is allegedly due to be signed under the radar #lcfc

 

Pinch of salt, it's from the Daily Fail's chief writer.

 

It's a parody account.

[Danno]

@themartinsamuel: With Arsenal rumours dominated by big names, LCFC keeper Schmeichel is allegedly due to be signed under the radar #lcfc

Pinch of salt, it's from the Daily Fail's chief writer.

lol

[ealingfox]

I get the joke now.

[hackneyfox]

 

 

As for further 'investment', for me that's a strict thanks but no thanks, the last thing a Championship club with our outgoings and debt needs is even more debt piled on top.

If we'd invested in a centre half, midfielder and someone on the left in January we may not have had to worry about FFP or the size of our debt.

If we don't invest this season we'll be stuck in this division for another season.

[Babylon]

If we'd invested in a centre half, midfielder and someone on the left in January we may not have had to worry about FFP or the size of our debt.

Or we might be even more up shit creek with three more expensive players on the books we can't afford.

[Guest MattP]

If we'd invested in a centre half, midfielder and someone on the left in January we may not have had to worry about FFP or the size of our debt.

If we don't invest this season we'll be stuck in this division for another season.

 

Maybe, maybe not.

 

At what level of debt do you stop 'investing'?

 

(I hate that word btw, it's borrowing isn't it in reality)

[hackneyfox]

I think everyone but Pearson could see where we needed strengthening, yest it may not have got us promoted but we'd probably not have had such an awful run.

 

As for the level at which you stop investing, well as long as you don't give the new signings stupid salaries then I don't see how another 5m (if that is what it would have taken) would make much of a difference when we're already 90m in debt.

 

If you borrow money that makes you money (via promotion) it's an investment, if you borrow money to get kane in then it's throwing it away.

[indierich06]

I think everyone but Pearson could see where we needed strengthening, yest it may not have got us promoted but we'd probably not have had such an awful run.

 

As for the level at which you stop investing, well as long as you don't give the new signings stupid salaries then I don't see how another 5m (if that is what it would have taken) would make much of a difference when we're already 90m in debt.

 

If you borrow money that makes you money (via promotion) it's an investment, if you borrow money to get kane in then it's throwing it away.

 

So what would have been the point then? Even in spite of the awful run, we still made the playoffs and if Knockaert had scored his penalty - which 9 times out of 10, most players will do - we would have been in a playoff final.

[Corky]

I think everyone but Pearson could see where we needed strengthening, yest it may not have got us promoted but we'd probably not have had such an awful run.

 

As for the level at which you stop investing, well as long as you don't give the new signings stupid salaries then I don't see how another 5m (if that is what it would have taken) would make much of a difference when we're already 90m in debt.

 

If you borrow money that makes you money (via promotion) it's an investment, if you borrow money to get kane in then it's throwing it away.

 

What's the difference? Ultimately the ending would've been the same, and the method of getting there wouldn't really matter.

 

Even if we'd had a good run to the play-offs and missed out Pearson would still have been seen as someone who couldn't quite cut it, so really if you don't get promotion it doesn't matter what form you finish in.

[Guest MattP]

I think everyone but Pearson could see where we needed strengthening, yest it may not have got us promoted but we'd probably not have had such an awful run.

 

As for the level at which you stop investing, well as long as you don't give the new signings stupid salaries then I don't see how another 5m (if that is what it would have taken) would make much of a difference when we're already 90m in debt.

 

If you borrow money that makes you money (via promotion) it's an investment, if you borrow money to get kane in then it's throwing it away.

 

So what's your limit then?

 

You prepared to bankrupt the club to try and win promotion?

[LeicesterAreGoingUp]

So what's your limit then?

 

You prepared to bankrupt the club to try and win promotion?

 

isn't that what we've done for the past 3 seasons anyway?

[Guest MattP]

isn't that what we've done for the past 3 seasons anyway?

 

Pretty much yep.

 

What we are doing now in trying to cut down it's generally what's known as 'rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic'

[Trav Le Bleu]

Pretty much yep.

 

What we are doing now in trying to cut down it's generally what's known as 'rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic'

 

Makes it look pretty though.

 

On a side point LM said today that Schmeichal had a 75% save success rate against shots on target. I'm thinking that's pretty good, but wonder how it compares to other keepers. Kasper played with a good defence infront of him and may well have had to face less shots than your average keeper. Could be there's keepers who let in considerably more, but got a higher percentage due to having faced a lot more shots. If such a person exists maybe we should cash in? I know, I know... lies, damned lies and statistics.

[hackneyfox]

So what would have been the point then? Even in spite of the awful run, we still made the playoffs and if Knockaert had scored his penalty - which 9 times out of 10, most players will do - we would have been in a playoff final.

We were lucky to make the playoffs and the squad weren't, imo, good enough to win should we have made the final.

The extra investment in more experienced players in those important positions may have menat we made automatic promotion.

[hackneyfox]

So what's your limit then?

 

You prepared to bankrupt the club to try and win promotion?

 

 

 

 

 

What we are doing now in trying to cut down it's generally what's known as 'rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic'

So if you think things are so bad why worry about another 5m if it had improved areas that needed changing?

[Babylon]

We were lucky to make the playoffs and the squad weren't, imo, good enough to win should we have made the final.

Palace were in much worse form than us and did.

 

 

The extra investment in more experienced players in those important positions may have menat we made automatic promotion.

Or may have meant it was impossible for us this year to comply with FFP meaning a fire sale had we not made it.

[Guest MattP]

So if you think things are so bad why worry about another 5m if it had improved areas that needed changing?

 

How do you know it would improve? You quite simply don't.

 

You could borrow another £10million and get another Sven to buy another Mills, Fernandes and Beckford type players.

 

Why worry about another 5?, same reason if I knew someone who was in 50k worth of debt I wouldn't advise him to go out and get another credit card just because "another £2.5k wouldn't matter".

[MikeyT]

No idea if this has been posted, Not going back though loads of pages, so here.

 

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Tigers-stand-firm-1-75million-offer-keeper-Kasper/story-19215124-detail/story.html#axzz2VZCTUyVP

 

HULL City will not be pushed to pay over the odds for goalkeeping target Kasper Schmeichel – with a second bid of £1.75m left on the table for Leicester City to consider.

The Tigers have made the Foxes' keeper their number one summer target as they prepare for life in the Premier League.

 

With manager Steve Bruce determined to end a long-running problem which has seen a string of loan players used in goal over the past three seasons, City have moved quickly in a bid to bring the Danish star to the KC.

As previously reported, a first bid of £1.25m was immediately rejected by the Championship club, who then slapped a price tag of £4m on the Denmark international.

 

However, City have since responded by leaving an offer in the region of £1.75m on the table, with sources telling the Mail the Tigers are determined they now won't be pushed any higher.

It follows the transfer principles already set out publicly by managing director Nick Thompson, who has pledged to ensure City do not repeat the mistakes and overspending from the club's previous spell in the top flight.

Although City's current offer remains some way under Leicester's valuation for the man who was named in the PFA Championship team of the year, the Tigers are confident their bid could prove enough to seal the deal.

Leicester's position in the matter has not been helped with Schmeichel now entering the final year of his contract and, having openly expressed a desire to play in the Premier League, he has been unwilling to discuss a new contract at the King Power Stadium.

Also, the need to need to comply with new financial fair play regulations next year could force the Foxes' hand, as Schmeichel is one of the club's big earners.

With all this in mind, City are prepared to leave their bid on the table, and will now only consider upping their offer should a rival bid from another club top their own.

Although Schmeichel is the clear top target, City have also made tentative inquiries over Scotland's Allan McGregor, currently at Besiktas, and 24-year-old Turkish international Sinan Bolat.

Bolat, who was linked with a move to Fulham in January, is currently a free agent after refusing to renew his contract with former club Standard Liege.

It comes as City continue to wait for defenders Paul McShane and Liam Rosenior, and young keeper Mark Oxley, to sign the new deals offered to them.

The Mail understands all three are likely to agree to staying on at the KC Stadium to play a part in the Premier League adventure, but it is thought that despite being keen to keep all three at the club next season, City wish to re-sign the players on one-year contracts to allow flexibility in the long term with regard to squad management.