Guesty Posted 24 May 2013 Author Posted 24 May 2013 The RAF have intercepted a flight from Pakistan to Manchester apparently 5 hours ago - much ado about nothing by the looks of it.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Sorry but can someone explain how changing the human rights act could have stopped the death of a soldier in Woolwich. The right to free speech- It should be adjusted so that people wanting to speak out about certain aspects of our country are arrested. The bloke on Wednesday was pictured at one of Choudray's rants. He would've been off the streets. I know 'my' rule seems archaic and slightly contradictory but something has to be done. \This softy softly approach isn't working Certainly at the very least the Human Rights Act is preventing the scum like Choudary/Hamsa (I forget which) from being deported.
yorkie1999 Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 The problem isn't about being black or white.if we stopped trying to be the world's peace keepers and pulled our troops out of other countries there would be no terrorist attacks here. But maybe the scent if oil is too great
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opRntNy573U this guy has it spot on. Spot on. What does the d*ckhead have to say in response to him, I wonder.
broughtonblue Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 just curious, would you torture them yourself?i would. But really would like them to be put in stocks in a city centre and let the public administer their own punishment
MooseBreath Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Spot on. What does the d*ckhead have to say in response to him, I wonder. you mean me? I think he talks well and probably means well just like many a decent slave owner.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Sorry but can someone explain how changing the human rights act could have stopped the death of a soldier in Woolwich. Indeed. There are plenty of laws, social ethics and human organizations in place that have got nothing to do with the human rights act, but which failed to stop this. There was an army barracks nearby, but nobody (quite rightly) is blaming the army! There are countries with much worse (better? ) human rights records than ours which have many more violent deaths.
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 you mean me? I think he talks well and probably means well just like many a decent slave owner. Slavery is immoral, worshipping a God is not, regardless of what other lunatics do wrongly in the name of that God.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 The right to free speech- It should be adjusted so that people wanting to speak out about certain aspects of our country are arrested. The bloke on Wednesday was pictured at one of Choudray's rants. He would've been off the streets. I know 'my' rule seems archaic and slightly contradictory but something has to be done. \This softy softly approach isn't working Certainly at the very least the Human Rights Act is preventing the scum like Choudary/Hamsa (I forget which) from being deported. I'm pretty sure that there are laws about public speaking (inciting to riot or religious/racial hatred) in existance. The law isn't the problem so much as the enforcing of it.
Houdini Logic Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opRntNy573U this guy has it spot on. If only everyone could be this sensible and rational
Captain... Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 The right to free speech- It should be adjusted so that people wanting to speak out about certain aspects of our country are arrested. The bloke on Wednesday was pictured at one of Choudray's rants. He would've been off the streets. I know 'my' rule seems archaic and slightly contradictory but something has to be done. \This softy softly approach isn't working Certainly at the very least the Human Rights Act is preventing the scum like Choudary/Hamsa (I forget which) from being deported. But he himself had never spoken out, it was also reported that he was radicalised over the internet, and we have no jurisdiction there. Without knowing exactly what is said by the hate preachers, surely if it is that inflammatory then they can be done under attempting to incite hatred. The problem is you can't stop people from saying facts like 100,000+ civilians dead in Iraq, Blair lied about weapons of mass destruction, the west has invaded the middle eastern and Muslim countries, Muslim pensioner killed on the streets in racially motivated attack. Changing rules on freedom of speech would not have stopped what happened it would only have pushed have preachers underground, the fact we know there have preachers know who listens to them and can monitor them is probably largely responsible for ensuring that no further terrorist attacks have been committed since 7/7 it was only the simple, spontaneous and barbaric nature of the attack in Woolwich that kept it under the radar. What wouldn't require removing the right free speech from millions of innocent people is getting the Muslim communities to legitimise the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and support the war on terror here and abroad, that could also have prevented that senseless and brutal death.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Indeed. There are plenty of laws, social ethics and human organizations in place that have got nothing to do with the human rights act, but which failed to stop this. There was an army barracks nearby, but nobody (quite rightly) is blaming the army! There are countries with much worse (better? ) human rights records than ours which have many more violent deaths. I think this happened the opposite side of the barracks to the entrance. Had it had happened right outside the entrance I wonder what the lads on sentry would've done. Anything? Were they to know he was a squaddie? Would you have blamed them if they'd levelled their rifles and shot the bastards in the head? I wouldn't. I'm pretty sure that there are laws about public speaking (inciting to riot or religious/racial hatred) in existance. The law isn't the problem so much as the enforcing of it. OK yes there are laws. Sod all is done though. It should carry a much tougher sentence oerhaps?
Captain... Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 this guy has it spot on. But this needs to be the headlines, this needs to be in every paper and every news program, and not just him, but local Muslim leaders need to condemn it on a local level to the local news and local communities.
yorkie1999 Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Slavery is immoral, worshipping a God is not, regardless of what other lunatics do wrongly in the name of that God.but people have masqueraded under the banner of god to commit attrocaties against other races since time began. What we have today started in the crusades and we only went there to nick their gold
Houdini Logic Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 but people have masqueraded under the banner of god to commit attrocaties against other races since time began. What we have today started in the crusades and we only went there to nick their gold And people have also hid under the banner of science. If religion wasn't here we would find a new way to hate and kill each other
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 but people have masqueraded under the banner of god to commit attrocaties against other races since time began. What we have today started in the crusades and we only went there to nick their gold And people have also hid under the banner of science. If religion wasn't here we would find a new way to hate and kill each other What Houdini said, as well as the fact that there are millions of people practising religion without an ulterior motive.
yorkie1999 Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 And people have also hid under the banner of science. If religion wasn't here we would find a new way to hate and kill each other It's not hate it's greed. If everyone in the world was made a millionaire tommorrow wed all love each other, apart from the politicians. They would still want f**k everything up
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 It's not hate it's greed. If everyone in the world was made a millionaire tommorrow wed all love each other, apart from the politicians. They would still want f**k everything up Are you so dense you don't realise what would happen if everyone was a millionaire?
yorkie1999 Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Are you so dense you don't realise what would happen if everyone was a millionaire? are you so dense that you don't realise it's not literal
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 are you so dense that you don't realise it's not literal Well what is it then? It doesn't make sense.
MooseBreath Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 April 2013 - Muslim jailed for plot to murder British soldiers at Wooten basset April 2013 - three Muslims jailed for plotting mass murder by bombing British citizens in Birmingham April 2013 - six Muslims plead guilty to plotting to commit mass murder of British citizens by bombing an edl rally in Yorkshire May 2013 - seven Muslims in court for drugging and gang raping British children in oxford May 2013 - two Muslims arrested for sawing off the head of a British soldier on a London street What the hell will next month bring I wonder. But it's fine everyone. Nothing to see here. Let's just sweep it under the carpet. Wouldn't want to upset anyone now would we.
theessexfox Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 April 2013 - Muslim jailed for plot to murder British soldiers at Wooten basset April 2013 - three Muslims jailed for plotting mass murder by bombing British citizens in Birmingham April 2013 - six Muslims plead guilty to plotting to commit mass murder of British citizens by bombing an edl rally in Yorkshire May 2013 - seven Muslims in court for drugging and gang raping British children in oxford May 2013 - two Muslims arrested for sawing off the head of a British soldier on a London street What the hell will next month bring I wonder. But it's fine everyone. Nothing to see here. Let's just sweep it under the carpet. Wouldn't want to upset anyone now would we. If I thought reasoning with a madman was worthwhile I could dig up the same from members of many religions, I'm sure.
MooseBreath Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 If I thought reasoning with a madman was worthwhile I could dig up the same from members of many religions, I'm sure. Go on then. Go ahead and look for examples in the last two months where members of a specific religion have consistently targeted British citizens, or infact any specific demographic, with plots of mass murder, bombings, brutal killings, drugging and rape.
yorkie1999 Posted 24 May 2013 Posted 24 May 2013 Well what is it then? It doesn't make sense.put it like this. If I lived in a big mansion and had a top of the range bmw and you lived next door in a caravan and had a skoda, you would be pissed off everytime you looked over the fence and want to slash my tyres and shit in my garden but if you had the same as me wed be in love and have conversations about the colors of our cars and how nice the hanging baskets look. Do you see where I'm coming from?
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