City fan banned from stadium for calling someone an idiot

[Jace]

Love the assumptions people are making here.

His son is 13 years old not 5.

Steve said to his 13 year old son "he has had enough of the club" To which the staff member replied "Why do you bother coming back" Thats acceptable behavior from an employed member of staff isn't it, oh and a lot of respect was obviously shown there.

Steve did NOT swear in anyway shape or form to the member of staff. No bad language was used not even to talk indirectly about the staff member. He does have a short temper at times but he is an adult who isn't stupid, unlike some of the comments on here.

The mountain they went up was for charity, all in aid of LOROS. He's definitely a horrible person. Another charity event is already being organised for a Leicester related charity.

He's been to most games following Leicester over the past 30 years and he certainly isn't the sort of fan our club should be turning away for a comment made to his son.

If anyone wants to congratulate the club on their behavior does anyone want to explain the following. For a couple of months i have been trying to arrange a meeting with Kevin Barclay to which he had agreed to. However recently i received an email saying the meeting was on hold until further notice "due to reasons they cannot talk about"

You might have come across more honest and believable if you had been honest about who you were from the start

[Finnaldo]

He was never asked to leave. The club have never said you cannot go in the shop at HT to look at the scores.

Well as you said they turned the telly over to stop people looking at the scores. The whole idea of a shop is to sell their products not shelter people during half time. They have tellies on in the concourse don't they?

[Dunge]

Anyone who flies off the handle because an employee was going around doing their job should indeed be banned. I wouldn't want that in my workplace and no Leicester City employee should expect it in theirs, particularly one away from the high emotions of the playing side.

 

This was about someone that Steve perceived to be rude - not for just turning the televisions off but for his manner speaking to Steve. Since I wasn't there, I can't say whether that was an accurate perception or not, but that's the kind of thing he was saying to me. Steve then gave him some back, to which the employee went and told his manager. As I've said, that doesn't condone it even if it did happen that way, but it doesn't make Steve a monster.

 

Anyway, this from Larry about Steve:

 

"Best just to suck it in and learn for the future."

 

And much of what KentFoxSteve has said, I agree with completely.

[Iwan is a Welshman]

I signed 1 of these good behaviour contracts a couple of years ago when Sven was still in charge been on £25,000 a week since best thing I ever done.

Haha, great post.

(Not being sarcastic. I'd have done the laughing man emoticon but I'm on my phone.)

[Jackubu]

Wear an extra layer?

Doncaster on a cold snowy Tuesday night suggests layers dont work

 

You might come across more honest and believable if you had been honest about who you were from the start

Was going to try and hide because i know too many people are cynical on here but it doesnt change the facts. 

 

Well as you said they turned the telly over to stop people looking at the scores. The whole idea of a shop is to sell their products not shelter people during half time. They have tellies on in the concourse don't they?

My little sister was cold hence why they went in the club shop. He's a father he'd be failing as a father not to seek warmth for her for 15 minutes.

[Arrothefoxinoz]

The thing is as a steward the abuse is far worse and is often directed straight at you, not merely a passing comment that got overheard but unless things get physical it's ignored and deemed "acceptable" which is wrong.

I disagree that one person doing his job in one environment should be treated differently to anyone else and I think this is ridiculous. I don't think there's anybody that condones what Steve said but an apology should have been the end of it! I wonder how this person copes in their day to day life if being called an idiot has caused this?

[Finnaldo]

Anyone who flies off the handle because an employee was going around doing their job should indeed be banned. I wouldn't want that in my workplace and no Leicester City employee should expect it in theirs, particularly one away from the high emotions of the playing side.

This was about someone that Steve perceived to be rude - not for just turning the televisions off but for his manner speaking to Steve. Since I wasn't there, I can't say whether that was an accurate perception or not, but that's the kind of thing he was saying to me. Steve then gave him some back, to which the employee went and told his manager. As I've said, that doesn't condone it even if it did happen that way, but it doesn't make Steve a monster.

Anyway, this from Larry about Steve:

"Best just to suck it in and learn for the future."

And much of what KentFoxSteve has said, I agree with completely.

In what way was he rude to him, was it is tone or what he said?

[KFS]

Should we cut it here, lads? This is going to get strained and strained until we're discussing how Jobber's drum may damage the internal reaches of children's ears, or some tedious argument to that effect.

 

It's been decided that most of us weren't there, however the majority of us back the club in some regard.

 

I think it's harsh to essentially bombard Jackubu, when naturally he's going to defend his Dad here.

[Bayfox]

I made the comment about 5 aside but I never said I played against him......

you do the maths.

arrothefoxinoz

nice of you to join us.

[Finnaldo]

My little sister was cold hence why they went in the club shop. He's a father he'd be failing as a father not to seek warmth for her for 15 minutes.

I don't disagree that it was the right thing to do to help your sister find warmth, but as explained the club has its own agenda as a business. But if the real reason is that is was for your warmth why did he feel the need to comment when the scores were switched over?

[Larry_LCFC]

The thing is as a steward the abuse is far worse and is often directed straight at you, not merely a passing comment that got overheard but unless things get physical it's ignored and deemed "acceptable" which is wrong.

I disagree that one person doing his job in one environment should be treated differently to anyone else and I think this is ridiculous. I don't think there's anybody that condones what Steve said but an apology should have been the end of it! I wonder how this person copes in their day to day life if being called an idiot has caused this?

So a vicar should be treated the same as a police officer. Do me a favour. You know what the job entails when you take up the position. Some have the risk element that you will receive abuse (directly or indirectly), others don't.

[Finnaldo]

Should we cut it here, lads? This is going to get strained and strained until we're discussing how Jobber's drum may damage the internal reaches of children's ears, or some tedious argument to that effect.

It's been decided that most of us weren't there, however the majority of us back the club in some regard.

I think it's harsh to essentially bombard Jackubu, when naturally he's going to defend his Dad here.

Ok I'm going to cut it here too. Sorry Jack for the interrogation, good luck with your dad's situation.

[Jimmy]

I worked retail for 3 years on tills/customer service desk and was NEVER abused, even when the customer couldn't get his/her own way, why? Because I wasn't rude and was as polite as possible and gave an explanation, Saturday Student staff are generally less professional as its "just" their Saturday job and they couldn't give a shit if they get fired or not.

 

If the club shop is being run on match day by these people then I'd suggest opening it during games, when it is at it's busiest and needs to have a full quota of professional experience staff is idiotic.

 

In my current job I often have to deal with shop keepers ringing up both owners and supermarket type staff and those that own the store are some of the rudest people you would have the displeasure of dealing with.

 

My advice to Steve would apologise, sign the contract and reclaim your seat

[Dunge]

Finnaldo... A bit of a mixture of both - My understanding is that it went something like this (obviously I'm guessing a little at some of the dialogue):

 

*employee turns off televisions*

 

Steve: Why are you doing that?

Employee: It's what I was told to do.

Steve: I'm getting fed up of this place. I don't want to come down here any more.

Employee: Then don't.

Steve: (To son) That man's an idiot.

 

And so it went from there. That's what I've pieced together anyway.

 

 

Bayfox... Well, then your experience of him is very different to mine.

[Bettsj2]

Such a shame that ordinary people seem to think that within the realms of a football stadium, manners, common courtesy and generally behaving like an adult cease to exist.

In life, there is something called accountability. As adults, we accept this as part of life. If you choose to mouth off (regardless of language) like some spoilt brat, take the punishment that fits your actions. Sign the paper and act your age.

'Waahhh, they wont let me see the scores'

Come on, are we being serious here?

[Jackubu]

In what way was he rude to him, was it is tone or what he said?

It was what he said. After turning the TVs off my dad said to my brother he'd had enough of the club.

 

The staff member overheard and said "why do you bother coming back"

My brother asked my dad what was up with him to which my dad said "he's a idiot".

 

 

At the end of the day we all know how the club overreact to small matters. 

 

I don't disagree that it was the right thing to do to help your sister find warmth, but as explained the club has its own agenda as a business. But if the real reason is that is was for your warmth why did he feel the need to comment when the scores were switched over?

Read the above. Probably gives the best description to what happened. 

 

I made the comment about 5 aside but I never said I played against him......

you do the maths.

arrothefoxinoz

nice of you to join us.

Cant establish which member of the team you are/were but if you judge someones personality by how they acxt in the middle of a football game its not the best way to judge society.

[EnglishOxide]

This whole thing is embarassing.

Hes a grown man and theres a little campaign for him. A grown man.

Accept the 3 game ban like a man or go home and dont come back.

Or dont abuse shop staff in the first place. Chances are he got mouthy and didnt apologise to the member of staff. Something which im sure if done at the time would have meant this whole episode could have been avoided.

[wight88]

You can tell City must be doing well if this bollocks apology of a thread is going towards double figures

[Jackubu]

This whole thing is embarassing.

Hes a grown man and theres a little campaign for him. A grown man.

Accept the 3 game ban like a man or go home and dont come back.

Or dont abuse shop staff in the first place. Chances are he got mouthy and didnt apologise to the member of staff. Something which im sure if done at the time would have meant this whole episode could have been avoided.

to be fair he didnt create the campaign. It was done without his knowledge. He spoke to Chris Foyran (LTID owner) who he writes match reports for who then created it all. He was only aware once he was tagged in the picture and now we're here

[Dan]

Unnecessary punishment if he was overheard saying it to his nipper rather than actually abusing the the staff member directly. Less harsh than some of the other trivial shit the club dish out bans for though.  

 

Also, pretty sure this bloke had a pop at me for standing at an away game once, in which case I wish he'd got a lifetime ban from every football stadium in England. Apologies if that wasn't you mate, some other leisure wear model with a face like a droopy root vegetable maybe. 

 

Very highly doubt he'd do that

[Bayfox]

Cant establish which member of the team you are/were but if you judge someones personality by how they acxt in the middle of a football game its not the best way to judge society.

Not that it really matters but I'm judging him on his attitude before during and after. When he could actually be bothered to turn up.

Obviously your gonna defend your old man but if you really think the best way to treat the staff at a club your have dedicated that length of time too is to insult them then I'd suggest you spend a few hours with my mum. Who taught me some manners and respect.

the guy was probably on a minimum wage and doesn't really want to spend his Saturday afternoon taking shit from people. But I guess the fact he isnt sat on his arse doing feck all counts for nothing.

ok its hardly abuse of alan pardew proportions but still your old man should have a bit more self respect. Hes an adult why do we live in such a shit society that we cant just accept a guy was doing his job.

I have to take a certain amount of shit from my customers. But any who personally abuse my staff arent customers any more.

I'm not going to say anymore on the issue other than how the **** this has ended up slapped over the Internet I dont know and it clearly has done your family no favours.

[C-man]

A lot of self-righteousness going round in here. I expect that no one has ever criticised the ticket office staff for sending tickets to incorrect addresses (happened three times to me alone), not sending them at all or giving the wrong seat at an away game. Certainly not call them idiotic.

The chap should apologise - if he hasn't already - but IMO shouldn't have to sign a good behaviour contract. Embarrassing.

[dmayne7]

Hey everybody! Its Christmas, the time of showing love to your neighbour, let's not fight... Oh right, we have to wait 11 months for that one. Still, I suggest everybody has a nice hot cup of cocoa and steps into the warmth of the club shop...

[Jackubu]

Obviously your gonna defend your old man but if you really think the best way to treat the staff at a club your have dedicated that length of time too is to insult them then I'd suggest you spend a few hours with my mum. Who taught me some manners and respect.

 

 

I didnt condone my dads actions. But judging by some of that comment respect is not in your vocabulary. 

[Jace]

I didnt condone my dads actions. But judging by some of that comment respect is not in your vocabulary.

Was this decision to ban your dad not taking into account what had happened with the incident in the ticket office aswell then? I agree with you that the member of staff should not have said what they had done about coming back would be wrong to say that but maybe I could understand why they had said it if this had been a recurring incident?