Term-Time Holiday

[Webbo]

Perhaps if parents were to produce a planned itinery of educational content then they should be given permission at agreed times

Not very realistic though is it?

 

 

 

 

 

I took my kids out for a few days of the last week occasionally when they were in infant/junior school. I didn't do it when they got to senior school.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

no one seems to consider the value of holidays to children, the best education anyone can get is experiencing the world, seeing other cultures.

 

Fvcking shitty little governments ramming standardised curriculum (curricula?) that fit their current  ideology down kids throats isnt education anyway.

 

fvck you school and government. I WILL decide what is best for my child!

Jeez what a pathetic outlook. Bloody know all Anarchist! 

[davieG]

School absences in Leicester: over 2,500 penalty notices issued

Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/School-absences-Leicester-2-500-penalty-notices/story-20818238-detail/story.html#ixzz2wD6rimdH

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

The rare time I will agree with a tory - taking a holiday during term time and dragging your kids out of school for it is very much a selfish act. Ruining their education and causing other students to have their education compromised getting your kids back up to speed so you can save a couple hundred quid is not on. You don't have to have a holiday abroad, so arguments about having to pull your kids out doesn't hold water.

I don't agree with this post at all, it's such a sweeping statement that its all about saving money for everyone. Personally due to the nature of my job I cannot take holiday between April through to mid September, so what am I to do? The Oct half term is getting too late for the Med holidays so I take my kids out back end of Sept and accept I will have a fine to pay. My kids don't have to be dragged out of school, they like family holidays and as my eldest had now left school and is doing very nicely out in the real world, I hardly think her education was ruined by my selfish acts.

Before making such broad sweeping statements think about people and the different circumstances they may have.

[Jon the Hat]

Why is everyone missing the point here?  This is not about YOUR kids, this is about the impact on the education of everyone else in the class.  Like it or not, this is a distraction.  Myabe your kids will be fine and benefit from their holidays - although clearly a lot of parents wont make the effort to make sure that is the case, but others in their class will suffer the consequences. 

[Zingari]

i don't know why parents seem to think a holiday abroad is some sort of mandatory obligation . We were lucky to get a trip to drayton manor park in our holidays 

[ADK]

Why is everyone missing the point here?  This is not about YOUR kids, this is about the impact on the education of everyone else in the class.  Like it or not, this is a distraction.  Myabe your kids will be fine and benefit from their holidays - although clearly a lot of parents wont make the effort to make sure that is the case, but others in their class will suffer the consequences. 

 

I don't understand this argument at all. If someone is absent, how is that a distraction? Do they stop teaching when someone is absent and wait for that person to return? It wasn't done like that in my time at school.

[Dr The Singh]

As stated before, i've got nothing against the ruling, it's the way it's being applied, some schools for some parents are being treated differently then others.  Introducing policies are fine, but who makes sure there fair and appropriately managed!!

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

i don't know why parents seem to think a holiday abroad is some sort of mandatory obligation . We were lucky to get a trip to drayton manor park in our holidays

The world moves on, times change, we are no longer in the 1970's, people's aspirations, expectations and quality of life are totally different now.

[kingcarr21]

I always remember when someone from my class went on holiday once they came back the teacher would set everyone the work for the lesson then whilst everyone was busy working the teacher would then go to the child who went on holiday to check to see if they understand and work out the best way to catch up. Obviously some kids found it easier to catch up and some were maybe given extra homework in order to catch up. It wasnt as if the whole class sat there not doing anything whilst the teacher repeated all the work they had done to one person in order to catch up. This 'Impact' on the others education was minimal if non existant. But i guess because it never affected me (not that im aware of) then thats why i dont see it as a problem.  

 

 

Although it could explain why im not a super genius

[Jon the Hat]

I don't understand this argument at all. If someone is absent, how is that a distraction? Do they stop teaching when someone is absent and wait for that person to return? It wasn't done like that in my time at school.

 

Of course not, but if you have several kids on a class who missed a couple of weeks of the curriculum you have to spend additional time bringing them up to speed, reducing the time spent with the other kids, who consequently miss out.  It is not that hard a concept is it? 

[ADK]

Of course not, but if you have several kids on a class who missed a couple of weeks of the curriculum you have to spend additional time bringing them up to speed, reducing the time spent with the other kids, who consequently miss out.  It is not that hard a concept is it? 

 

This seems wrong and it didn't happen when I was at school. The kids shouldn't be receiving extra attention. There shouldn't be time taken away from other children. I understand the concept but just don't see it as a big deal. But honestly my school was probably shit anyway.

[Zingari]

The world moves on, times change, we are no longer in the 1970's, people's aspirations, expectations and quality of life are totally different now.

yes that's true  , but sometimes the world and times  moves in a direction that people need to expect less  and lower aspirations .

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

yes that's true , but sometimes the world and times moves in a direction that people need to expect less and lower aspirations .

I was born in 1967 never went abroad with my parents, and my first holiday abroad was in 1985, I had like u pointed out the Drayton Manor trips, and holidayed every 2 years in this country, personally I would not want to lower my aspirations and go back to those days. I was 18 when I first got on a plane, both my kids would of had 8 or 9 holidays abroad by 18, is that not better?

[Zingari]

I was born in 1967 never went abroad with my parents, and my first holiday abroad was in 1985, I had like u pointed out the Drayton Manor trips, and holidayed every 2 years in this country, personally I would not want to lower my aspirations and go back to those days. I was 18 when I first got on a plane, both my kids would of had 8 or 9 holidays abroad by 18, is that not better?

Yes I agree , of course it is in an ideal world .

But we are continually being told we face years of austerity , so levels of expectation must inevitably be lowered . If this means holidays in Florida or the med are no longer seen as divine right , then so be it

 If parents can afford to take their kids away during school breaks , that's fine , but I don't see why they should be allowed to take the kids away in term time .

 

Plus , and I must stress this is the most important reason of all .  I  always go on holiday during the low season and i don't want screaming kids and noisy families around me and  pushing up the cost of the low season rates !!

[indierich06]

The rare time I will agree with a tory - taking a holiday during term time and dragging your kids out of school for it is very much a selfish act. Ruining their education and causing other students to have their education compromised getting your kids back up to speed so you can save a couple hundred quid is not on. You don't have to have a holiday abroad, so arguments about having to pull your kids out doesn't hold water.

 

Do you really think missing a single week of primary or secondary education is going to ruin your kids education? 

 

I missed about 4 weeks when I was in secondary school due to a dislocated kneecap and a full length plaster cast which made it a nightmare getting around - it didn't do me any harm and I passed all of my GCSEs with flying colours. There's nothing you're going to miss in a single week that 'ruins' your education, it's nonsense.

 

I'm pretty sure I learned more when I went on holidays as a kid than I did in a week of pointless Religious Education, ICT, PE, Textiles or Geography lessons but I won't get started on the nonsense that is the national curriculum, as that's another topic entirely.

[Smudge]

Of course not, but if you have several kids on a class who missed a couple of weeks of the curriculum you have to spend additional time bringing them up to speed, reducing the time spent with the other kids, who consequently miss out.  It is not that hard a concept is it? 

Replace the reason for time off with "measles" in lieu of "on holiday" and everything changes doesn't it?

 

Kids get sick all the time and the rest of the class aren't impacted.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I had a few run ins with truants. Usually they were smoking weed, or drinking, and sometimes both. I knew most of their usual haunts. Some I returned to school, and the remainder to their parents, even if they were at work. Overall it was a successful operation.

 

The worst cases were taken to the nick to await their parents arrival.

[Mark_w]

I had a few run ins with truants. Usually they were smoking weed, or drinking, and sometimes both. I knew most of their usual haunts. Some I returned to school, and the remainder to their parents, even if they were at work. Overall it was a successful operation.

 

The worst cases were taken to the nick to await their parents arrival.

 

Did you ever do anything worthwhile?

[indierich06]

Did you ever do anything worthwhile?

 

He sounds like a puffed up school prefect.

[cambridgefox]

This seems wrong and it didn't happen when I was at school. The kids shouldn't be receiving extra attention. There shouldn't be time taken away from other children. I understand the concept but just don't see it as a big deal. But honestly my school was probably shit anyway.

Thats because it doesn't happen

Of course not, but if you have several kids on a class who missed a couple of weeks of the curriculum you have to spend additional time bringing them up to speed, reducing the time spent with the other kids, who consequently miss out. It is not that hard a concept is it?

My daughter at senior school was e -mailed extra homework on the bits she was going to miss when we went skiing last year,however she had been skiing with the school the week before( spoilt child),so probably as you say 2 weeks would have been too much to catch up on, I am quite a pushy dad when it comes to school work so I do make sure they do more than the bare minimum anyway and I do liaise with the school via email and phone anyway.They also have drop in sessions for parents once a month to liaise,so I think I'm lucky with the school.

[AoWW]

I'm pissed off that I can't take holiday in term time. Can someone send my Headteacher a note and take me out of school please? I'm sure I won't be missed - it's not like I do anything important anyway and the kids can take care of their own learning for a fortnight. 

 

I'll even agree to do a couple of extra worksheets and keep a diary of my trip. I might even be persuaded to do a presentation when I return. After all, lazing around on a beach in Mauritius is educational and, well, even cultural, right?

 

[ADK]

Just ask the NUT for permission.

[Jon the Hat]

I'm pissed off that I can't take holiday in term time. Can someone send my Headteacher a note and take me out of school please? I'm sure I won't be missed - it's not like I do anything important anyway and the kids can take care of their own learning for a fortnight. 

 

I'll even agree to do a couple of extra worksheets and keep a diary of my trip. I might even be persuaded to do a presentation when I return. After all, lazing around on a beach in Mauritius is educational and, well, even cultural, right?

 

 

I am surprised this hasnt been put into your contract already!!

[maynefox]

I remember my dad got some slack from my old school. He booked a weeks holiday with me and forgot about term time etc (is it a common thing for dads' to do?  ). So I spent a lot of hours revising in the sun for my GCSEs. Everyone is a winner. I get a holiday with my dad. I get some rays. I revised and I made the schools GCSE results look better so they can brag about it. Happy days.
Seriously, my dad wouldn't have done it if he knew the term dates.