Leicester City can still be caught... Arry Redknapp!

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't post on here that often col city, and the fact you have a picture of Tommy Wright means you can't be a bad bloke but Jesus your love in for HR is totally over the top!

Mattp makes some very good points about the squad QPR have and how Harry should be doing much better with it, but you accuse him of sticking the knife in! I honestly just think he's saying it as it is, all my non city supporting friends agree QPR should of walked the league just like Newcastle did a few years back, it probably even shows Chris Houghton is just as good a manager if not better than Harry

Cheers mate and good post to be fair. It's not a 'love-in' on my part buddy, genuinely. I just object to the 'hate-in' that appears to have happened. I'm not surprised though.

Regarding QPR should have 'walked the league', well the Championship isn't usually like that is it? With the money we spent under Sven, it becomes apparent that money doesn't buy success. That same season, West Ham spent over ten million quid and only made play-offs.

One final time.. As I've said over and over, if Redknapp fails to take QPR up, its pretty much game over for him. Like Sven, I think his reputation would take a serious nosedive and he'd struggle to get a top job again. However, the seasom isnt over. If Redknapp stays AND gets promotion, he will be seen as having a successful season.

I can't be any plainer than that. It would not surprise me at all if QPR still get promoted this season. There's still a lot of football to be played.

Regarding 'sticking the knife in', well just look back through the thread. The analogy to Ian Huntley kinda justifies what I'm saying I think?

Have a good day mate.

[MC Prussian]

Shouldn't 'Arry be more straightforward and admit that QPR can still be caught?

 

Teams as far down as Ipswich in 10th place could still catch up with them.

 

Wouldn't it be brilliant if they fell out of the playoff picture towards the end of the season?

[gerrytaggart]

QPR win their game in hand and they are just 4 points off an automatic spot.

I certainly would not bet against them.

[Corky]

Matt, your feelings on Redknapp are pretty clear. You obviously don't like him and don't rate him. Like most people in this thread, they are ready to twist the knife in at their first opportunity.

I've also made it clear... I've always thought he's ok.

What I dont get is this seeming hatred towards the bloke? He's done well for himself in football, gets on with the media and is held in high esteem by some of his fellow managers.

Is the dislike of him borne out of envy? Genuine question.

Finally, the season is NOT YET OVER.. QPR could still get promotion and if so, Arry will be praised for getting up at his first attempt. Much like Allardyce was a couple of seasons ago, and he only sneaked in through the back door with West Ham. Alternatively, if they dont go up, Redknapp I guess, will be sacked, if not beforehand.

No offence meant, but you are jumping on the usual bandwagon of criticising an opposition manager without all the facts.

It does seem like QPR has got issues going on in the background which may be making Arry's job harder?

I really don't know, but the point is neither do you. I reserve judgement on Redknapp's managerial skills till later in the season. If he fooks it up, then his reputation will take a nosedive.

As a bloke, I've always liked him. He usually has a good word to say about other managers, he has respect in the footballing world and has been very succesful in the business.

You stick the knife into him if you want to. Personally, I don't want to.

 

Personally, I don't like the way he operates, openly talking about players under contract at other clubs, spending money for the sake of it with seemingly little regard for the long term future of the club he's at.

 

Not envious of him at all, baffled by the love-in and adulation he receives from the media and the football world for what looks a pretty average career in management. If he gets them up then fair play, but it's hardly been a vintage season so far. if he doesn't he's failed badly in trying to keep them up (some excuse) and then get promoted (no excuse).

[lancyclaret]

Happy Harry and King Billy both think their sides can still get auto - so that means at least one of them will be disappointed.

[Dan]

I think thats probably the issue. QPR appear to be running exactly like a club shouldn't be run. Starting with Hughes and now Redknapp, there seems to be major problems within that can't be easily turned around.

Again, its not Arry's money, its the club's money. Like Sven at Leicester, who was the biggest fool? The clown in charge or the clown(s) that hired him?

City have turned this around, and just in time it would appear as we could easily have taken a downward spiral, with Pearson as a stabilising influence both on the field and, I should suspect, off it.

The happenings at QPR are laid squarely at Redknapp's door but which of us can really know what is going on at the club?

With the turmoil the club was clearly in and still appears to be, there IS an argument, like it or not, that Redknapp has done not a bad job to keep the team in with a shout of promotion when they could easily have plummetted very quickly given the squad of misfits they had.

Listening to Brendan Rogers on TalkSport this evening, he mentioned Redknapp in a very positive way in the development of his own career (I think). And Rogers is an excellent young British manager who I have respect for.

If this is going to be Redknapp's final swansong then sobeit. I've always liked and enjoyed the way he puts himself across and again, like it or not, he has had his fair share of success. QPR football club appears to be in a right ol mess and it looks to be something that even Arry can't put right.

But its not Redknapp's money.. its the Chairman's money. If he's allowed Arry to spend lots of it, unchecked, then more fool him.

 

what?!?!

 

Redknapp's a joke and I'm stunned that people are defending him.

 

The only thing he's genuinely very good at is playing the media. He's done so well in that that he's managed to use it to con people that he's a half decent manager.

 

Said it many a time but trying to absolve him and Sven the blame is hilarious. The owners are idiots but that doesn't excuse completely excessive, unnecessary, short-termist spending which both are guilty of, Redknapp's arguably even worse for it.

 

I won't miss Redknapp myself. The deadline day monster.

[Dan]

Matt, your feelings on Redknapp are pretty clear. You obviously don't like him and don't rate him. Like most people in this thread, they are ready to twist the knife in at their first opportunity.

I've also made it clear... I've always thought he's ok.

What I dont get is this seeming hatred towards the bloke? He's done well for himself in football, gets on with the media and is held in high esteem by some of his fellow managers.

Is the dislike of him borne out of envy? Genuine question.

Finally, the season is NOT YET OVER.. QPR could still get promotion and if so, Arry will be praised for getting up at his first attempt. Much like Allardyce was a couple of seasons ago, and he only sneaked in through the back door with West Ham. Alternatively, if they dont go up, Redknapp I guess, will be sacked, if not beforehand.

No offence meant, but you are jumping on the usual bandwagon of criticising an opposition manager without all the facts.

It does seem like QPR has got issues going on in the background which may be making Arry's job harder?

I really don't know, but the point is neither do you. I reserve judgement on Redknapp's managerial skills till later in the season. If he fooks it up, then his reputation will take a nosedive.

As a bloke, I've always liked him. He usually has a good word to say about other managers, he has respect in the footballing world and has been very succesful in the business.

You stick the knife into him if you want to. Personally, I don't want to.

 

You haven't really said why you like him. "I've always thought he's OK".

 

Envy? There's no club in the league I envy less. Literally. Not even Forest.

[Guest Col city fan]

You haven't really said why you like him. "I've always thought he's OK".

Envy? There's no club in the league I envy less. Literally. Not even Forest.

There's no point going round in circles mate. You have your view Dan and I have mine. I'll reserve judgement on Arry this season till a bit later in the season.

Why I like him is because he's a rags to riches success story, seems one of the lads and has a good sense of humour.

Seems a good bloke, a wheeler dealer maybe? But a good bloke nonetheless.

[Kitchandro]

QPR win their game in hand and they are just 4 points off an automatic spot.

I certainly would not bet against them.

 

4 points to make up on Burnley? I don't fancy them considering the way they're playing.

[gerrytaggart]

4 points to make up on Burnley? I don't fancy them considering the way they're playing.

 

Thats true they are not exactly setting the world alight at the moment, but given the abundance of riches they have there they just need to click for a few games and that gap has gone.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

'Arry's a great geezer, so don't write QPR off yet. The guv will sort it out, wont yer mate.

 

'Ave another chip 'Arry boy. Luv those luminous socks geezer. Petticoat Lane market eh? Smoov guv, Yer aint alf got class. Wot abaht that tie, eh? Jeez geezer, I just luv orange, Sure does go well wiv that vest yer wearin'. Carn' afford anuvver shirt just yet. Ripped the larst one off yer back. Bleedin' Charlton fans.

 

See yer later guv. Ope yer do all right on Sat'day, 'Arry boy. Oo yer got? Don' know? Well, it'l be a surprise for yer then, won' it mate.

[LanguedocFox]

I'm no fan of Redknapp, although I do think his youth set-up at West Ham was fantastic, and he did do a good job for Spurs while he was there. But the idea that QPR should sack him now seems bizarre in the extreme. A few facts:

 

1. QPR were relegated last season behind Reading and Wigan (11 points behind Wigan)

2. This season, QPR have not been out of the top five places in the Championship: Reading have not been above 4th, and Wigan have not been higher than 7th

3. QPR have lost three matches on the trot, but in January (or, as some would say, last fooking month) they won four on the trot, and drew the other match they played.

 

QPR's only seven points off the second automatic promotion spot, with a game in hand over Burnley. Personally I don't think they will make it, but they are nailed-on for the playoffs - unless they press the panic button, as they have in the past two seasons.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'm no fan of Redknapp, although I do think his youth set-up at West Ham was fantastic, and he did do a good job for Spurs while he was there. But the idea that QPR should sack him now seems bizarre in the extreme. A few facts:

1. QPR were relegated last season behind Reading and Wigan (11 points behind Wigan)

2. This season, QPR have not been out of the top five places in the Championship: Reading have not been above 4th, and Wigan have not been higher than 7th

3. QPR have lost three matches on the trot, but in January (or, as some would say, last fooking month) they won four on the trot, and drew the other match they played.

QPR's only seven points off the second automatic promotion spot, with a game in hand over Burnley. Personally I don't think they will make it, but they are nailed-on for the playoffs - unless they press the panic button, as they have in the past two seasons.

A good objective post giving both sides of an argument.

So much more readable than the usual 'Arry's a cnvt' bollox.

[LanguedocFox]

A good objective post giving both sides of an argument.

So much more readable than the usual 'Arry's a cnvt' bollox.

 

Thanks Col. I posted something similar on a QPR forum today, as a counter to some of the "Harry Out" bullsh!t being posted on there. There's no comparison between Redknapp and Pearson, of course, but a lot of the posts were reminscent of the crap being posted on here last year - including the obligatory "A mate of mine who knows someone who's the brother-in-law of a woman who cleans for Tony Fernandes says Redknapp is being fired/is resigning in the morning."

[Guest Col city fan]

Thanks Col. I posted something similar on a QPR forum today, as a counter to some of the "Harry Out" bullsh!t being posted on there. There's no comparison between Redknapp and Pearson, of course, but a lot of the posts were reminscent of the crap being posted on here last year - including the obligatory "A mate of mine who knows someone who's the brother-in-law of a woman who cleans for Tony Fernandes says Redknapp is being fired/is resigning in the morning."

Some of the posts on this thread have been quite astounding IMO buddy. Eg. The last time I read, Redknapp had been acquitted of any financial misdealings.

[Fox92]

Burnley is a shithole and tinpot gates although I hate sheepshagging bastards Dierby i want them to get the second spot, because it is an easy 6 points next season 

 

Burnley have got the best support in the division if you calculate their average attendances by size of town.

 

Or something like that.

 

Although I do agree with the bit I've highlighted.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Haven't people learned yet?

 

Col City is never wrong!

[Fez of Mahrez]

Oh no, "deformation of character" has been deleted! That was one of my favourite mis-spellings ever!

[Guest Col city fan]

Haven't people learned yet?

Col City is never wrong!

Cheap Trav, cheap..

Though not unexpected..

[LanguedocFox]

Oh no, "deformation of character" has been deleted! That was one of my favourite mis-spellings ever!

 

Some things are best left unsaid

[LanguedocFox]

Haven't people learned yet?

 

Col City is never wrong!

 

He is, and to be fair, he admits it.

[Guest MattP]

Matt, your feelings on Redknapp are pretty clear. You obviously don't like him and don't rate him. Like most people in this thread, they are ready to twist the knife in at their first opportunity.

I've also made it clear... I've always thought he's ok.

What I dont get is this seeming hatred towards the bloke? He's done well for himself in football, gets on with the media and is held in high esteem by some of his fellow managers.

Is the dislike of him borne out of envy? Genuine question.

Finally, the season is NOT YET OVER.. QPR could still get promotion and if so, Arry will be praised for getting up at his first attempt. Much like Allardyce was a couple of seasons ago, and he only sneaked in through the back door with West Ham. Alternatively, if they dont go up, Redknapp I guess, will be sacked, if not beforehand.

No offence meant, but you are jumping on the usual bandwagon of criticising an opposition manager without all the facts.

It does seem like QPR has got issues going on in the background which may be making Arry's job harder?

I really don't know, but the point is neither do you. I reserve judgement on Redknapp's managerial skills till later in the season. If he fooks it up, then his reputation will take a nosedive.

As a bloke, I've always liked him. He usually has a good word to say about other managers, he has respect in the footballing world and has been very succesful in the business.

You stick the knife into him if you want to. Personally, I don't want to.

 

I've been twisting the knife in all season, I was twisting it in when he ran away from Pompey after the owner had led them both to ruin. I think I've backed up my points fairly well with facts as well.

 

Hatred Born out of envy? Not at all, no idea why you would think that, there are tons of managers out there will far more money and trophys than Harry and I hardly dislike a single one of them, certainly not jealous of his looks and his intelligence wouldn't frighten anyone who can complete a basic crossword.

 

No comparison with Big Sam and Arry, check the accounts of West Ham's season that year.

 

Find your "I'll judge him as a manager at the end of the season" a bit daft to be honest, he's been in management for 30 odd years, if you haven't made up your mind on him yet three more months shouldn't make much difference, though let's be honest you have, and if ol' Arry does cock it up I'm sure you'll offer up a load of excuses for it.

 

Personally, I don't like the way he operates, openly talking about players under contract at other clubs, spending money for the sake of it with seemingly little regard for the long term future of the club he's at.

 

Not envious of him at all, baffled by the love-in and adulation he receives from the media and the football world for what looks a pretty average career in management. If he gets them up then fair play, but it's hardly been a vintage season so far. if he doesn't he's failed badly in trying to keep them up (some excuse) and then get promoted (no excuse).

 

Top line is spot on, it's absolutely disgraceful to be quite honest, still not forgot his comments on Kevin Phillips to us where he was clearly trying to drum up other clubs to share an interest and curtial us but he has been doing this for years.

 

He;s a sly, underhanded, lying, bagpuss willy puller.

 

I won't miss Redknapp myself. The deadline day monster.

 

Using that

 

Thats true they are not exactly setting the world alight at the moment, but given the abundance of riches they have there they just need to click for a few games and that gap has gone.

 

Or carry on for a few games out of form and completely miss out on the top six, that would make our collapse last season look like a minor blip.

 

Some of the posts on this thread have been quite astounding IMO buddy. Eg. The last time I read, Redknapp had been acquitted of any financial misdealings.

 

Serious point, yes he was found not guilty (which popular people with public jurors generally do through history when cases have been "trial by media") but do you actually believe him that he can't use a phone or that he honestly had no idea how they found a load of his money in a bank account in his dogs name that he hadn't paid tax on?

 

Fair play if you do, but if so I think you could make a case for him doing a good job if he took QPR down this year.

[ARTY_FOX]

Personally I was happy he didn't get the England job, and at spurs I don't think he did anything special. Got into the champions league but at that point they should of been, and never around the place they were at when he took over. All in all he did what he was expected to do and is an average manager IMO. However he is a likeable 'character'

[Guest Col city fan]

I've been twisting the knife in all season, I was twisting it in when he ran away from Pompey after the owner had led them both to ruin. I think I've backed up my points fairly well with facts as well.

Hatred Born out of envy? Not at all, no idea why you would think that, there are tons of managers out there will far more money and trophys than Harry and I hardly dislike a single one of them, certainly not jealous of his looks and his intelligence wouldn't frighten anyone who can complete a basic crossword.

No comparison with Big Sam and Arry, check the accounts of West Ham's season that year.

Find your "I'll judge him as a manager at the end of the season" a bit daft to be honest, he's been in management for 30 odd years, if you haven't made up your mind on him yet three more months shouldn't make much difference, though let's be honest you have, and if ol' Arry does cock it up I'm sure you'll offer up a load of excuses for it.

Top line is spot on, it's absolutely disgraceful to be quite honest, still not forgot his comments on Kevin Phillips to us where he was clearly trying to drum up other clubs to share an interest and curtial us but he has been doing this for years.

He;s a sly, underhanded, lying, bagpuss willy puller.

Using that

Or carry on for a few games out of form and completely miss out on the top six, that would make our collapse last season look like a minor blip.

Serious point, yes he was found not guilty (which popular people with public jurors generally do through history when cases have been "trial by media") but do you actually believe him that he can't use a phone or that he honestly had no idea how they found a load of his money in a bank account in his dogs name that he hadn't paid tax on?

Fair play if you do, but if so I think you could make a case for him doing a good job if he took QPR down this year.

Mate, I usually like your posts, as you know. But I kinda lost interest with the analogy to Huntley.

Regarding my 'making excuses' for Redknapp, well read back thru. I've said on more than one occassion that Arry is the King of excuses. I've also said that if he doesn't take QPR up this season, it will be a bigger balls-up than Sven was at City.

What I've set out to not do is:

A. Call him a cvnt (or similar).. he clearly isn't.

B. Write off QPR so early.. there's lots of matches left.

Why have I done neither? Cos its too easy.. I'd rather try to balance the thread out.

If you'd rather think of me as some lover of Arry (perish the fookin thought ) be my guest. Thats easy too.

[theessexfox]

No manager can be classed as anything other than dreadful if, when his club is relegated with the sort of wage bill QPR has, he fails to try to cut it and instead adds to his squad with numerous Premier League rejects with zero motivation, zero passion for the club and only interested in picking up their fat wage. Pearson has shown him how its done.