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Qatar World Cup Modesty Rules

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Ohh and another thing, it says 'men wearing shorts will be frowned upon'.

They do realise that football kits do include shorts right? :huh:

Guest MattP
Posted

If you go to someones country you respect their laws. That should apply with British people going elsewhere and people coming into Britain.

 

Any anger should be directed at FIFA here, they are the ones who have given this country a World Cup when it was obvious to anyone with common sense it would mean the vast majority of people would face some inconvience and a minority of people from certain religions or sexual orientation would be stopped from even attending.

 

For what it's worth I actually loved the UAE and Qatar when I visited in 2012, it was safe, you had no worries regarding crime or being robbed, people respected each other (well if you are a man), everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves and the people were extremely friendly.

 

It's a World Cup that me despite wanting us to boycott I'll probably go to.

Posted

If you go to someones country you respect their laws. That should apply with British people going elsewhere and people coming into Britain.

 

Any anger should be directed at FIFA here, they are the ones who have given this country a World Cup when it was obvious to anyone with common sense it would mean the vast majority of people would face some inconvience and a minority of people from certain religions or sexual orientation would be stopped from even attending.

 

For what it's worth I actually loved the UAE and Qatar when I visited in 2012, it was safe, you had no worries regarding crime or being robbed, people respected each other (well if you are a man), everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves and the people were extremely friendly.

 

It's a World Cup that me despite wanting us to boycott I'll probably go to.

 

Glad someone mentioned this part because it's the first thing I was going to say. 

Posted

I'm not as bothered by the laws re: covering up - it's a very dated view, but to be expected over there - as I am by the law stating no singing. That's every football fan going over being arrested then. **** building the stadiums, they need to stick all the money into turning every single building in a courthouse to deal with the amount of cases.

 

Anyway, nice work FIFA.

Posted

If you go to someones country you respect their laws. That should apply with British people going elsewhere and people coming into Britain.

 

Any anger should be directed at FIFA here, they are the ones who have given this country a World Cup when it was obvious to anyone with common sense it would mean the vast majority of people would face some inconvience and a minority of people from certain religions or sexual orientation would be stopped from even attending.

 

For what it's worth I actually loved the UAE and Qatar when I visited in 2012, it was safe, you had no worries regarding crime or being robbed, people respected each other (well if you are a man), everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves and the people were extremely friendly.

 

It's a World Cup that me despite wanting us to boycott I'll probably go to.

 

I agree people shouldn't go there if they don't agree or aren't willing to follow their rules. But that doesn't mean they should be above criticism, or that their views should be respected.

 

I've stopped being angry at FIFA, I've just come to the point of acceptance. At least everyone has come around to the fact that they are corrupt and will happily ruin the sport if they can make a few quid more, something I've been trying to tell people for years but something that was laughed off until THAT World Cup vote.

 

But Qatar shouldn't be somewhere that is accepted by people, it's a place that should be frowned upon whilst wearing shorts.

Posted

I agree people shouldn't go there if they don't agree or aren't willing to follow their rules. But that doesn't mean they should be above criticism, or that their views should be respected.

 

I've stopped being angry at FIFA, I've just come to the point of acceptance. At least everyone has come around to the fact that they are corrupt and will happily ruin the sport if they can make a few quid more, something I've been trying to tell people for years but something that was laughed off until THAT World Cup vote.

 

But Qatar shouldn't be somewhere that is accepted by people, it's a place that should be frowned upon whilst wearing shorts.

What galls me about some of this, and I know you say about FIFA being corrupt, is that in one of the Qatari flyers it asks that we respect their "Values" Surely they were as complicit in the "Winning" of the bid as FIFA? What "Values?" 

 

 To me, football is a working mans game and, by putting the WC on in Qatar is asking the salt of the earth, bread and butter fans of the sport to attend but not be the people they are.

 

Week in, week out we see/sing/shout/abuse/cheer with and next to proper fans (Around the world) who often like a couple of beers etc, before/during a game, not to mention celebrating afterwards but to ask these these genuine people to go to Qatar and not be able to be true to themselves in the spirit that is football just doesn't sit right with me.

 

Iv'e been to Doha many many times over the last 21 years and as much as I love it out there it is a world away from any other place I have known a WC being held and I just can't see it working in the form that we know now, both from a footballing (The heat and disruption to Global leagues should it be moved to winter) and from a fans point of view by not being able to be themselves. I just can't see fans celebrating in the streets of Qatar in the way (Globally) fans do. It's just too culturally different and asking what they are asking now is proof of that.

 

Don't get me wrong, I do partially agree with the 'When in Rome......." thing, but this sort of stuff should have been addressed and confronted during the bid but then it all comes back to the corruption elements. 

 

Hard Hat On.  :ph34r:

Posted

Sorry Kitchandro, Iv'e just re-read my last post and it may read like I'm having a dig at you and your post but I'm certainly not. I absolutely agree with you. I'm having a go at the whole Qatari choice and, I suspect, double standards.

Posted

Like others it's FIFA I blame bit the culture where the World Cup is being held, the only way anyone will listen is if supporters don't go.

Qatar is not a big enough country to fill every game with locals, and the sponsors will run at the thought of half empty stadiums with the prices they will be to advertise at the World Cup.

On the bright side at least the stadiums will be built.

Posted

I totally understand their request for modest dressing, although the practicality of that bearing in mind the expected temperatures may be an issue. Some of those rules (i.e. no singing) are a bit extreme.

 

It works both ways, Qatar have been given the responsibility of hosting the World Cup and they need to compromise a little bit. They would have known what it entails and in a way they have a duty to make sure the tournament is a success for all parties, fans included. But no doubt there will be a lot of fans travelling who won't show any respect to their hosts.

Guest seanfox778
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I was there in October and the people are very friendly, you can get away with shorts that go just over the knee like board shorts. I went to Saudi Arabia last year too and it's a hell of a lot stricter there.

Posted

Probably reiterating what others have already said here..

 

I don't think the issue is abiding by their rules, I just think there's a sense of frustrations that we as a country are so weak at enforcing any rules.

Qatar should never have had the World Cup in the first place, especially when there are nations like Australia, who are a far bigger sporting nation, that have missed out because of them being selected. Everything about Qatar being selected for a sportin event is a joke. I am sure it's a very nice place and if I was ever to go on holiday there I would accept their way of life but for an international tournament that should be attracting thousands of football fans, I am not sure how FIFA can justify having it there.

Posted

I don't think the issue is abiding by their rules, I just think there's a sense of frustrations that we as a country are so weak at enforcing any rules.

 

I dont get your point.  the fact is that we are a country where you can wear pretty much what you like.  We should be proud of that, not introducing stupid rules to make it more difficult for some people just becuase we dont like the rules in their home countries.  Makes no sense.

Posted

I dont get your point.  the fact is that we are a country where you can wear pretty much what you like.  We should be proud of that, not introducing stupid rules to make it more difficult for some people just becuase we dont like the rules in their home countries.  Makes no sense.

 

Perhaps not but I don't want to get into some sort arguement about race or religion so I explained it poorly. Yes I am proud that we as a country allow people to wear what they like but if someone was to ask for a woman to remove a Burka in this country then they would be lambasted. It's the fact that people come to this country and try dictate how we should live, yet over in Qatar for example they have strict rules to abide. People don't realise how lucky they are.

Posted

I agree people shouldn't go there if they don't agree or aren't willing to follow their rules. But that doesn't mean they should be above criticism, or that their views should be respected.

 

I've stopped being angry at FIFA, I've just come to the point of acceptance. At least everyone has come around to the fact that they are corrupt and will happily ruin the sport if they can make a few quid more, something I've been trying to tell people for years but something that was laughed off until THAT World Cup vote.

 

But Qatar shouldn't be somewhere that is accepted by people, it's a place that should be frowned upon whilst wearing shorts.

 

 

Don't be ridiculous. 

Posted

Perhaps not but I don't want to get into some sort arguement about race or religion so I explained it poorly. Yes I am proud that we as a country allow people to wear what they like but if someone was to ask for a woman to remove a Burka in this country then they would be lambasted. It's the fact that people come to this country and try dictate how we should live, yet over in Qatar for example they have strict rules to abide. People don't realise how lucky they are.

 

You have a point there.  Moving to the UK and expecting it to change for you is as stupid as us going to Qatar and expecting them to like us wearing shorts and a vest.

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