Suarez ban: Higher or Lower?

[Guest Col city fan]

Please stop being so dense, he's playing a contact sport. Am I right in saying you're a nurse? Might have completely the wrong person here but are you competing against other nurses physically to give care as quickly as possible at the highest level of nursing there is, where you have billions of people watching?

This 'contact sport' thing really is a fookin barmy argument. Yet you're at it again.

Football does not involve biting..

Out of interest, what was Tyson's ban for biting his opponents ear off?

[AKCJ]

John Aldridges comments

"There may be some people want to turn their back on him, but I think the club will try and stick by him. In a Liverpool shirt he's been impeccable. they just have to work with him, work on whatever triggers it off and make sure it never happens again."

Maybe the should just put a muzzle on him when he's playing John.

Only a racist, cannibalistic cheat, eh John?

[VinceNoir]

Slightly higher for me. I admire him as a footballer, but he's quite obviously an utter **** and I wouldn't be upset if Wasyl sorts him out on December 3.

[AKCJ]

Please stop being so dense, he's playing a contact sport. Am I right in saying you're a nurse? Might have completely the wrong person here but are you competing against other nurses physically to give care as quickly as possible at the highest level of nursing there is, where you have billions of people watching?

Biting is not part of the contact in said sport.

True the idea that "i'd be locked up so why isn't he" idea is farfetched, but you have to admit... he's got a point.

If you bit someone playing football at Sunday League level it'd be different (I.e. the receiver of the bite would have the right to get the rozzers on you) It shouldn't be, but it would.

[Haydos]

This 'contact sport' thing really is a fookin barmy argument. Yet you're at it again.

Football does not involve biting..

Out of interest, what was Tyson's ban for biting his opponents ear off?

You cannot be serious?! Football doesn't involve STAMPING, HEADBUTTING or ELBOWING either but players are consistently punished in line with footballing laws, NOT public ones.

Stop trying to justify something just because you don't agree with it, that's a completely different argument. And before you get going with Tyson....a) I don't know....b) Boxing isn't football so has different laws and is therefore irrelevant.

Please, if you respond to this, try and respond to the points you're questioning because that is all I am arguing right now. Biting is just as much part of the game as headbutting is, no matter how much more common it is.

Biting is not part of the contact in said sport.

True the idea that "i'd be locked up so why isn't he" idea is farfetched, but you have to admit... he's got a point.

If you bit someone playing football at Sunday League level it'd be different (I.e. the receiver of the bite would have the right to get the rozzers on you) It shouldn't be, but it would.

See my most recent post, my point is pretty straightforward.

[Fez of Mahrez]

He should have been allowed to carry on but given a tag, only allowed 50 yards from his own goal.

Would still score against Norwich.

[Fez of Mahrez]

John Aldridges comments

"There may be some people want to turn their back on him, but I think the club will try and stick by him. In a Liverpool shirt he's been impeccable. they just have to work with him, work on whatever triggers it off and make sure it never happens again."

Maybe the should just put a muzzle on him when he's playing John.

I wonder what he said last time?

"They just have to work with him, work on whatever triggers it off and make sure it only happens once in the future."

[foxes_rule1978]

Should have been a lot higher, he has been found guilty so to give him only 4 months is a disgrace. It isn't the first time or even the second time, this is the third time he has done this, this isn't including all the other sh*t he has been in trouble for, so for me he should have had a much bigger punishment.

[Guest Col city fan]

You cannot be serious?! Football doesn't involve STAMPING, HEADBUTTING or ELBOWING either but players are consistently punished in line with footballing laws, NOT public ones.

Stop trying to justify something just because you don't agree with it, that's a completely different argument. And before you get going with Tyson....a) I don't know....b) Boxing isn't football so has different laws and is therefore irrelevant.

Please, if you respond to this, try and respond to the points you're questioning because that is all I am arguing right now. Biting is just as much part of the game as headbutting is, no matter how much more common it is.

See my most recent post, my point is pretty straightforward.

I think you must accept with this one that you're talking out your arris Haydos.

What would be the next thing you'd almost accept? A full on slam-dunk? A 'big-daddy splash' or the ref starting to use a base-ball bat to meter-out discipline?

[Haydos]

I think you must accept with this one that you're talking out your arris Haydos.

What would be the next thing you'd almost accept? A full on slam-dunk? A 'big-daddy splash' or the ref starting to use a base-bat to meter-out discipline?

And there's the inevitable non-serious, mocking answer that nearly everyone on here expects from you these days.

This isn't about what I accept Col, it's about his punishment and the precedent within the sport. If there were laws on 'over the top' violent acts then it would be different. But there aren't, yet.

If you're struggling to come back with any sort of reasonable argument (let's face it, you're not able to), can you just explain to me how biting someone is worse than headbutting someone? Or this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKt4IBxD5oo

That's all i ask.

[Fez of Mahrez]

And there's the inevitable non-serious, mocking answer that nearly everyone on here expects from you these days.

This isn't about what I accept Col, it's about his punishment and the precedent within the sport. If there were laws on 'over the top' violent acts then it would be different. But there aren't, yet.

If you're struggling to come back with any sort of reasonable argument (let's face it, you're not able to), can you just explain to me how biting someone is worse than headbutting someone? Or this...

That's all i ask.

Your "arris" has a pretty good vocabulary. And embeddable videos, it would appear.

[Corky]

The ban is fair, four months out of football is a punishment and I'm glad it's riled the Uruguayans and their extraordinary defence and denial of the situation.

[Guest Col city fan]

And there's the inevitable non-serious, mocking answer that nearly everyone on here expects from you these days.

This isn't about what I accept Col, it's about his punishment and the precedent within the sport. If there were laws on 'over the top' violent acts then it would be different. But there aren't, yet.

If you're struggling to come back with any sort of reasonable argument (let's face it, you're not able to), can you just explain to me how biting someone is worse than headbutting someone? Or this...

That's all i ask.

I was joking buddy. Take it as such..

No need to be mardy..

[shen]

I think you must accept with this one that you're talking out your arris Haydos.

What would be the next thing you'd almost accept? A full on slam-dunk? A 'big-daddy splash' or the ref starting to use a base-ball bat to meter-out discipline?

Not to defend Haydos, but his point is valid. How is a career-ending lunging two-footed tackle in anyway less violent or shocking than a bite that didn't even require any treatment?

I'd love to see Suarez made into a sacrificial lamb for the sake of proper conduct in football. Year-long world-wide ban and a huge fine. But I don't see why Materazzi, Pepe and other players that should never have graced a football field should be exempt from such punishments.

[Guest Col city fan]

And you get so pissy and worked up when people give you a joke answer.

The ban is fair, four months out of football is a punishment and I'm glad it's riled the Uruguayans and their extraordinary defence and denial of the situation.

I fail to see your sense of humour Corky. If I did I'd laff.

4 months.. pah

[Haydos]

I was joking buddy. Take it as such..

No need to be mardy..

I thought we were having a discussion about it. I still believe some of the reactions were over the top and I'm trying to put forward an argument so people will realise exactly what they're implying when they say 'he should be banned for life' or whatever.

He has set a precedent here, it would be a good time to add in some laws about issues like this. Biting, punching, stamping etc should all be retroactively punished under separate laws, something like that.

[Carl the Llama]

3 years is what I'd have given him.

[foxes_rule1978]

The ban is fair, four months out of football is a punishment and I'm glad it's riled the Uruguayans and their extraordinary defence and denial of the situation.

He has got a four month ban from all football activities and a 9 match international ban... that does seem fair when I think about it but feel he still got off likely, giving that he does have history.

[Guest Col city fan]

I thought we were having a discussion about it. I still believe some of the reactions were over the top and I'm trying to put forward an argument so people will realise exactly what they're implying when they say 'he should be banned for life' or whatever.

He has set a precedent here, it would be a good time to add in some laws about issues like this. Biting, punching, stamping etc should all be retroactively punished under separate laws, something like that.

Mate. I know what you are saying and I was only joking. But I don't agree.

How many times has Suarez bitten someone now? Yes, I think he should be kicked out the game. The first thing I thought was who on earth could take him seriously when he comes back? The Liverpool fans? (If I were a Liverpool fan I'd be fookin LIVID now.. he's been forgiven once.. never again). The opposition fans? Well I think he'll be a taunted man for years. His fellow professionals? I can imagine many of them doing whatever they could to rile him up.

I think the situation is so ridiculous its farcical. You could make it into a comedy sketch (Spitting Images would have had a field day)...

I think THIS time enough is enough and goodnight Vienna. Well, Montevideo anyway.

[Monk]

Bit of a weird one as it is without precedent. The thing is with biting, is that he's not exactly seriously injured the player has he? It's not like Roy Keane's tackle on Inge Haaland, or other violent incidents which are genuinely dangerous.

The guy is clearly messed up, but I am not convinced that it deserves the media outcry that it has. Worse things happen in football.

Ready to be flamed for saying that .

[foxes_rule1978]

Bit of a weird one as it is without precedent. The thing is with biting, is that he's not exactly seriously injured the player has he? It's not like Roy Keane's tackle on Inge Haaland, or other violent incidents which are genuinely dangerous.

The guy is clearly messed up, but I am not convinced that it deserves the media outcry that it has. Worse things happen in football.

Ready to be flamed for saying that .

In a sense biting is one of those degrading things to do, like spitting... had he elbowed the Italian, people would be less annoyed by it all

[Monk]

In a sense biting is one of those degrading things to do, like spitting... had he elbowed the Italian people, would be less annoyed by it all

I was going to make that analogy but didn't as I thought I'd be ridiculed for it. The problem is more that it's socially unacceptable than it is genuinely dangerous - well, in the way he's done it anyway - he doesn't even seem to be all that good at biting.

[Nalis]

I was going to make that analogy but didn't as I thought I'd be ridiculed for it. The problem is more that it's socially unacceptable than it is genuinely dangerous - well, in the way he's done it anyway - he doesn't even seem to be all that good at biting.

Maybe not but where's the challengers?? Golden Tooth winner for me.

[Samilktray]

I'd ban him for life but I dont really like him all that much. The punishments probably about right though, the guy is vermin but this punishment seems stern enough, hopefully theyre also gonna give him some help as hes quite clearly tapped.

[benpicko]

Way less than 4 months