Haydos Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 I think some people in this thread are missing the point a little bit. What we want at the club is for every player who's here to want to be a part of the team and to buy into our team ethic. That is NOT the same thing as a player actively wanting to join our club of their own accord. What we want is the former, so surely we shouldn't have any concerns over the player considering his options. If he does that and then chooses us, then it's proof that he buys into what the club is trying to achieve and the manner in which we are going about it, and he'll fit in fine. People are acting like he's decided against coming here just because it's taking him a while to decide on where he wants to go next (a MASSIVE lifestyle change that he won't want to rush). Fact of the matter is - we don't even know for certain how long the offer has been on the table, so any criticism is based on what we've been told by journalists who have so far proved unreliable Great post, you've put it more succinctly than I could. I'm not sure how so many people don't understand this and keep spouting "if he doesn't love Leicester then we should sign someone who does."
Danno Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Fourth Official knows fvck all, just recycles newspaper stories and spams betting ads.
ktfox59 Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Great post, you've put it more succinctly than I could. I'm not sure how so many people don't understand this and keep spouting "if he doesn't love Leicester then we should sign someone who does."Yes it was a great post, but again with the greatest of respect, I wonder if the poster witnessed the window under sven, when a certain Mr Beckford signed. He waited an eternity before signing or not just before the close of window. Was on a great contract and played like he never wanted to be here at all.Now there is a man who with hindsight, was covering all of his career options before signing. Thats what people are very wary of in Cambiasso. What would the reaction be if a top premiet player turned up at s league 2 side for 11 days of talks only to end up at man utd. Am sure it would raise quite a fee eyebrows. Or like the Sol Campbell saga to Notts County for 50k a week. It happens
Callabinho Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Fourth Official knows fvck all, just recycles newspaper stories and spams betting ads. It's more than one person, one is very accurate.
MC Prussian Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Yes it was a great post, but again with the greatest of respect, I wonder if the poster witnessed the window under sven, when a certain Mr Beckford signed. He waited an eternity before signing or not just before the close of window. Was on a great contract and played like he never wanted to be here at all. Now there is a man who with hindsight, was covering all of his career options before signing. Thats what people are very wary of in Cambiasso. What would the reaction be if a top premiet player turned up at s league 2 side for 11 days of talks only to end up at man utd. Am sure it would raise quite a fee eyebrows. Or like the Sol Campbell saga to Notts County for 50k a week. It happens ... very, very rarely. You can probably count similar occasions on one hand.
Jace Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 I simply don't buy this about alerting others too much. It's fcukin Esteban Cambiasso, one of the best defensive midfielders the game has seen in the last 20 years. If clubs weren't aware he'd left Inter Milan then they don't deserve to have him and also his agent must have done a very poor job. It's been said he wants a " project " For what could be his last adventure in football. That's why we've got this far with him. Now get it over the line Nigel and let's put the willies up Chelsea on Saturday. Definitely, must be the worst agent ever
Babylon Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Fourth Official knows fvck all, just recycles newspaper stories and spams betting ads. You're not allowed to say that. It's more than one person, one is very accurate. Perhaps that person should take over full time to stop the other one getting everything wrong.
MC Prussian Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Wow... Comeback on here from earlier and come to find that everyone is now not interested in signing cambiasso after all the grief I got earlier! As I've said before and will say again, we have right group here and that's better than any marquee signing looking for a final wage! Everyone at this club wants to play for this team so why change our approach with signings? If he wanted to be here this deal would of been sorted ages ago or their would of been some public talk from his camp suggested his interested etc to join. From being a loyal servant to the clubs his served his now being abit of a football sl*g and flirting with as many clubs as he can us, QPR, west ham, spurs, river plate, Atletico, Valencia. Is there anymore guys? Who says Cambiasso wouldn't want to play for this team? What is our "approach" to signings exactly from your point of view? Look at the histories of Vardy, Ulloa, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Upson, Albrighton, etc. and tell me what similarities you've found. As long as the signing benefits the team, it doesn't matter how old the player is or where he has played before. And it is nothing but human to reconsider your options before making the decisive move. It's called smart thinking. The amount of clubs interested in him do actually work as a proof that he's still got it and that he is still sought after. How much of that is real talk and how much is made up by the media and/or agents, I'll leave that conclusion up to you.
Charl91 Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 It's more than one person, one is very accurate. That seems like a bit of a cop out.
SemperEadem Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Fourth official used to be pretty spot on now its just a spam page really.
Haydos Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Yes it was a great post, but again with the greatest of respect, I wonder if the poster witnessed the window under sven, when a certain Mr Beckford signed. He waited an eternity before signing or not just before the close of window. Was on a great contract and played like he never wanted to be here at all. Now there is a man who with hindsight, was covering all of his career options before signing. Thats what people are very wary of in Cambiasso. What would the reaction be if a top premiet player turned up at s league 2 side for 11 days of talks only to end up at man utd. Am sure it would raise quite a fee eyebrows. Or like the Sol Campbell saga to Notts County for 50k a week. It happens Fair enough, they seem more valid concerns tbh, sorry if I was missing your point at first. Personally I believe that he offers enough regardless of whether he ums and ahs. Beckford is an altogether lower class of player and has a bit of an attitude. All I've read and heard about Cambi is that he has had a fantastic attitude throughout his career.
EGBFitness Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Who says Cambiasso wouldn't want to play for this team? What is our "approach" to signings exactly from your point of view? Look at the histories of Vardy, Ulloa, Drinkwater, Mahrez, Upson, Albrighton, etc. and tell me what similarities you've found. As long as the signing benefits the team, it doesn't matter how old the player is or where he has played before. And it is nothing but human to reconsider your options before making the decisive move. It's called smart thinking. The amount of clubs interested in him do actually work as a proof that he's still got it and that he is still sought after. How much of that is real talk and how much is made up by the media and/or agents, I'll leave that conclusion up to you. All of them have a point to prove, wether they are at the starts of their careers, drink water, vardy, mahrez. Ulloa has always wanted to play premier league football and wants to prove he is worthy of 1. His price tag and 2. That's his got the ability to step up from championship. Upson has been signed as experienced head but he too also wants to make a point as his last experience in prem was not a good one. All of them choose leicester and made it pretty clear they wanted to come to the club. Why would cambiasso really want to come to leicester? I think we're getting ahead of our selves, you look at the likes of Swansea etc that have stepped up into the prem and they didn't have to go out and sign a big name signing just to stay in prem, they too have a team that play for each other. Basically we have held talks with him, probs not advanced well but because his name hasn't been branded in the media for a few weeks it's been leaked we've spoken to him, strange how all of a sudden his been linked with other big clubs all of a sudden. If he was so sought after don't you think he would of been snapped up by a team already? Clubs would of been made aware of his contract situation at inter months ago but he has still failed to find a club yet.
Bettsj2 Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 All of them have a point to prove, wether they are at the starts of their careers, drink water, vardy, mahrez. Ulloa has always wanted to play premier league football and wants to prove he is worthy of 1. His price tag and 2. That's his got the ability to step up from championship. Upson has been signed as experienced head but he too also wants to make a point as his last experience in prem was not a good one. All of them choose leicester and made it pretty clear they wanted to come to the club. Why would cambiasso really want to come to leicester? I think we're getting ahead of our selves, you look at the likes of Swansea etc that have stepped up into the prem and they didn't have to go out and sign a big name signing just to stay in prem, they too have a team that play for each other. Basically we have held talks with him, probs not advanced well but because his name hasn't been branded in the media for a few weeks it's been leaked we've spoken to him, strange how all of a sudden his been linked with other big clubs all of a sudden. If he was so sought after don't you think he would of been snapped up by a team already? Clubs would of been made aware of his contract situation at inter months ago but he has still failed to find a club yet. Never as simple as 'here's a good player available, let's sign him' as much as we all like to think it is. From family issues to meddling agents to squad numbers, transfer policies, board sanctions etc etc. There are probably 100 different factors that we don't see or hear about. We just assume that because we read about it in the press already, that its taking forever whereas Albrighton for instance arrived at the click of NP's fingers. That deal was probably going on for a couple of months only the club managed to contain it. If he signs, it will still be one of the best signings the club has ever made, regardless of the time scale and how many other clubs were or were not interested in him.
Jace Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Just seen him in Mercadona Supermercados In Madrid (The Spanish version of Morrisons)
Leicesterpool Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 I've got feeling this deal won't happen, if had wanted to come he would have been here by now. But why the delay?, its not like he's with a club or anything he's a free agent. I can't imagine Nigel wanting to be pissed around with this deal any longer. Fingers crossed i'm wrong and the deal is done soon.
EGBFitness Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Never as simple as 'here's a good player available, let's sign him' as much as we all like to think it is. From family issues to meddling agents to squad numbers, transfer policies, board sanctions etc etc. There are probably 100 different factors that we don't see or hear about. We just assume that because we read about it in the press already, that its taking forever whereas Albrighton for instance arrived at the click of NP's fingers. That deal was probably going on for a couple of months only the club managed to contain it. If he signs, it will still be one of the best signings the club has ever made, regardless of the time scale and how many other clubs were or were not interested in him. Yeah you're right, we don't know how many factors there is involved with signing a player, let's all be honest here... None of us has ever been through the procedure before I think a lot of people just refer to championship manager regarding the quickness and simplicity to a signing. All clubs would of been made aware with cambiassos situation months ago and he would of been free to speak to clubs from about 6 months ago, as a professional in any trade, if you're only on a time scale contract you would be assessing your options well in advance. One thing a player has said about leicester when signed is how the club treated them prior to signing etc- Albrighton an example of this suggesting we looked after him and his family I think? This proves that we leave no stone turned when recruiting the players we want so I'm sure we would of been pulling out the finest champagne and red carpet when we spoke to cambiasso. I just personally believe that signing a big name isn't always the way forward especially when you've got a team who all want to play for each other. I don't know how much I could look into saying he would be one of the best signings we've ever made as I like to judge our signings by performance rather than reputation
Callabinho Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Never as simple as 'here's a good player available, let's sign him' as much as we all like to think it is. From family issues to meddling agents to squad numbers, transfer policies, board sanctions etc etc. There are probably 100 different factors that we don't see or hear about. We just assume that because we read about it in the press already, that its taking forever whereas Albrighton for instance arrived at the click of NP's fingers. That deal was probably going on for a couple of months only the club managed to contain it. If he signs, it will still be one of the best signings the club has ever made, regardless of the time scale and how many other clubs were or were not interested in him. Brilliant post.
ktfox59 Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 Fair enough, they seem more valid concerns tbh, sorry if I was missing your point at first. Personally I believe that he offers enough regardless of whether he ums and ahs. Beckford is an altogether lower class of player and has a bit of an attitude. All I've read and heard about Cambi is that he has had a fantastic attitude throughout his career.thanks for a nicely balanced reply.
EGBFitness Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 A few weeks ago I put a post out suggesting if you'd have ronaldinho at lcfc and the majority said they wouldn't have him as he was 'too old' or 'past it' Now we've been linked with Cambiasso everyone wants him on board, Ronny is the same age, more accolades, more clubs and international titles and was worth a hell of a lot more than cambiasso. What's the difference?
LCFC FOX Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 A few weeks ago I put a post out suggesting if you'd have ronaldinho at lcfc and the majority said they wouldn't have him as he was 'too old' or 'past it' Now we've been linked with Cambiasso everyone wants him on board, Ronny is the same age, more accolades, more clubs and international titles and was worth a hell of a lot more than cambiasso. What's the difference? Ronny would want a lot more wages, also Pearson wants Cambiasso
Bettsj2 Posted 19 August 2014 Posted 19 August 2014 A few weeks ago I put a post out suggesting if you'd have ronaldinho at lcfc and the majority said they wouldn't have him as he was 'too old' or 'past it' Now we've been linked with Cambiasso everyone wants him on board, Ronny is the same age, more accolades, more clubs and international titles and was worth a hell of a lot more than cambiasso. What's the difference? Ronny has spent more time in the last 5 years with his face buried in snatch than he has winning medals on the pitch.That's the difference. Its also the reason I'd take him too. #gwonron
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