ScouseFox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Really hope Hamer get's a few games now, for no other reason than so a few of you can see how bad he actually is in comparison..... The grass aint always greener. its gonna end up with a weeeulll situation isn't it. the ****** are going to be crying all season for hamer and he's gonna get brought in for one of our most important games and completely fu ck it up and ruin our season.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Savage made a valid point last night. He suggested that Kasper was showing Wallace the left hand side of the goal and almost saying 'if you can get it up and over the wall and in, you can have the goal! Unfortunately, if true, he picked the wrong bloke to make such an offer to.
Charl91 Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Really hope Hamer get's a few games now, for no other reason than so a few of you can see how bad he actually is in comparison..... The grass aint always greener. Maybe he's better, maybe he isn't, we haven't really seen enough of him to judge, to be honest. However, I find Pearson's choices a little strange. I thought the team selection was based on the merit of their performances; hence keeping in Hammond, when he clearly isn't our best midfielder. However he seems to have disregarded this approach for the goalkeepers. Hamer was involved in our only clean sheet of the season, and looked good in the air and around the box (something which has cost us too many goals already this season). On the back of that performance, he at least deserved another shot at it. What else does he need to do to get a start?
Manwell Pablo Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Maybe he's better, maybe he isn't, we haven't really seen enough of him to judge, to be honest. However, I find Pearson's choices a little strange. I thought the team selection was based on the merit of their performances; hence keeping in Hammond, when he clearly isn't our best midfielder. However he seems to have disregarded this approach for the goalkeepers. Hamer was involved in our only clean sheet of the season, and looked good in the air and around the box (something which has cost us too many goals already this season). On the back of that performance, he at least deserved another shot at it. What else does he need to do to get a start? Speak for yourself. This isn't a unknown young keeper we're talking about he's got over 200 appearances behind him
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Do people not realise that the players have training in the week? Pearson will pick a side based upon how to win a football match and what he and his coaches see all week in training. If he thought Hamer was better than Kasper, he'd play him. Trust in the judgement of the guys who work with our players day in, day out. None of us know them better than the club. Pearson has shown to not be phased by personalities. He doesn't play players on reputation. If he thought Hamer has shown enough to be given a chance, I reckon he'd play him. Until then, trust in his decisions. Only this weekend, Grewks et al had his dream come true and Nugent was dropped. The same could be true of Kasper. Trust in the decisions, some will be right, some wrong.
Soar Fox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 The players who are not on international duty are going Dubai for a bit of warm weather training.
st albans fox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Savage made a valid point last night. He suggested that Kasper was showing Wallace the left hand side of the goal and almost saying 'if you can get it up and over the wall and in, you can have the goal! Unfortunately, if true, he picked the wrong bloke to make such an offer to. And shearer (who I would suggest has more experience of taking free kicks like this at the highest level) said that he saw nothing wrong with kaspers positioning.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Was clearly at fault for their second goal. What keeper stands to the right of his goal mouth when you know a left footer will only curl it to your left as you face him. What a dick............ Dick? Give over you turnip.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 As a goalkeeper who played to quite a high level, I would say Kaspers positioning was fine, it was not getting across quick enough that was the problem.
st albans fox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 As a goalkeeper who played to quite a high level, I would say Kaspers positioning was fine, it was not getting across quick enough that was the problem. Would you have been disappointed with the wall? I certainly would be wanting to see the video of how the ball ended up going in at such a low height from such a close distance.
jammie82uk Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Maybe he's better, maybe he isn't, we haven't really seen enough of him to judge, to be honest. However, I find Pearson's choices a little strange. I thought the team selection was based on the merit of their performances; hence keeping in Hammond, when he clearly isn't our best midfielder. However he seems to have disregarded this approach for the goalkeepers. Hamer was involved in our only clean sheet of the season, and looked good in the air and around the box (something which has cost us too many goals already this season). On the back of that performance, he at least deserved another shot at it. What else does he need to do to get a start? I'm in agreement with this, there is no doubting that kasper is a quality keeper but it seems complacency has creeped in It seems to appear he is the first name on the team sheet when fit and he knows it
HankMarvin Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Are you sure about that ? Back peddling and you want him to catch it one handed under his cross bar? not even pat Jennings would have the gall to do that! http://tinypic.com/r/1zpo4kk/8 Watch the replay, didnt have to be one handed thats the whole point
DennisNedry Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Give Hamer some credit. He was very good against Stoke, except for his distribution which was poor (he kicked the ball straight out 4 or 5 times). He looked more assured at collecting crosses (yes I think he dropped one, and dropped another when he was fouled) but at least he came for them unlike Kasper does. And the shot stopping at the death was better than Kasper has done this season. Kasper is the better keeper overall so I'd keep him in for Newcastle, but if he has another shaky game he needs to know he isn't untouchable.
Charl91 Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Speak for yourself. This isn't a unknown young keeper we're talking about he's got over 200 appearances behind him Oh, are you a regular Charlton watcher then?
Number 6 Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Think Kasper is far better in almost every aspect of the game than Hamer. The one area that I think Hamer has him beat is commanding the area and this does seem to pose our defence issues, specifically with set pieces. So out of the 2 you could argue Hamer addresses out biggest defensive weakness. It certainly isn't as cut and dry as some make out, and the debate is worth having, but I'd absolutely expect Kasper to start against Newcastle.
st albans fox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 http://tinypic.com/r/1zpo4kk/8 Watch the replay, didnt have to be one handed thats the whole point whilst i agree he could have caught it, he couldnt know exactly where his bar was and couldnt risk colliding with ball and bar which would have brought the ball back into play. its standard practice to do what he did.
Bettsj2 Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 It was a bizarre bit of positioning backed up by Wallace's interview on MOTD saying Kasper gave him a massive area to aim at. Maybe it was some phsycolgical game gone wrong?? There used to be a keeper who stood well over to one side of the goal for penalties. God knows. Kasper makes a couple of **** ups a season. Hopefully he's just getting them out of the way. A positive to come from it is we actually do have some competition in his place now. If Hamer hadnt of been signed, I cant imagine many would be calling for Conrad to get some game time.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 Would you have been disappointed with the wall? I certainly would be wanting to see the video of how the ball ended up going in at such a low height from such a close distance. I always told my walls not to jump, just stand tall and be prepared to take a ball in the... balls. As soon as the wall jumps once you'll often have a cheeky fvcker try and stick one underneath, and they're infinitely harder to save than shots that go over the wall, and it's never a choreographed jump, body parts all over the place, holes appear etc. It was saveable and he didn't get across quickly enough.
Dan Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 I still think the wall was all wrong. Why did we put a small player in Drinkwater right in the middle of it?
HankMarvin Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 (1st goal) Same weaknesses he had last year - just exposed more this year, due to us not steam rolling teams. I don't think he is a bad keeper i just think that Hamer deserves a chance as KS hasn't been playing particularly well. If Hamer ends up having a mare no one will question him coming in should KS go through another bad patch of form
Bert Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 The way he positioned himself he basically told him you get it over the wall and you'll score. Like Bert said only him and Stowell will know why he went that far over. If he positioned himself better and it still went in then fair enough it's an excellent free kick, but to give him that much of the goal to aim at his bad decision making. Ross Wallace even said it as well. Kasper actually got quite close to it I thought. I didn't realise until MOTD how far across he actually was. 2 yards to the right and he would've saved that. A saveable free kick which was made un-saveable.
Bert Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 And shearer (who I would suggest has more experience of taking free kicks like this at the highest level) said that he saw nothing wrong with kaspers positioning.This is a piss poor argument. Any striker is going to be delighted to have that much of the goal to aim at.
ScouseFox Posted 5 October 2014 Posted 5 October 2014 A saveable free kick which was made un-saveable. this is pretty much the bottom line of it all. the way he full length dives, outstretched arms that grasp at thin air etc it makes it look like he's been beaten by a worldie. the type of goal you'd say "oh mate three keepers aren't getting near that!!" but then you look at the behind the goal replay and realises the ball was a good three foot from the bar and probably more than a yard away from the corner and you realise he's made it look like a worldie when in fact most sunday league keepers would've got closer to it.
st albans fox Posted 6 October 2014 Posted 6 October 2014 If you want to talk about his feet then I'm up for that. Still maintain that his starting position is fine. If all about stacking the odds and the first thing a keeper wants to know is where is the shot going. his starting point negates the kicker dummying into the far side. Any further towards the centre and if the kicker sees his weight headed left as he runs up the he can open up his body and place it into the far corner. it wouldn't have to be a well struck shot to beat a keeper going in the wrong direction. if he stands further to the left and waits for the kick to be taken before committing his weight then he has no chance of saving a well struck shot. So it becomes about his feet. His first pace left is a bit small (that's not disastrous) and I believe he had one more quick step to take before he needed to dive. That last misses step was disastrous. He didn't judge the natural drift of the ball away from him from the left footed kicker. So technically, yes kasper has to take some fault but not because of where he started. I hope a few more of you can appreciate this now. Of course, a well constructed wall that jumps in tandem means it needs a worldie to score.
Livid Posted 6 October 2014 Posted 6 October 2014 Savage made a valid point last night. He suggested that Kasper was showing Wallace the left hand side of the goal and almost saying 'if you can get it up and over the wall and in, you can have the goal! Unfortunately, if true, he picked the wrong bloke to make such an offer to. My thoughts, I think he thought he would get across to save it........obviously not.
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