Bamba's Babes Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 If our fullbacks were playing half as well as our two centre backs we'd have a few more clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I don't see how our defence are the reason we're losing points here. We lost to Newcastle because in 92 minutes we gave their keeper a mishit cross to worry about, and nothing else. We lost because we couldn't control the ball, and when we did go forward the last ball was pathetic. Midfield to blame. Against Burnley we drew because we lost our heads. We were in control, and then gave it up when they pulled one back. When the 90 minutes was up we got scared, gave the ball away consistently and ended up giving away a needless free kick. (Has anyone else noticed how many far post free kicks have been struck since that goal that the keeper got nowhere near?Maybe Kasper wasn't so wrong...?) Midfield (and wall) to blame. We dropped points at Palace because we were stifled-we had no outlets and they had free rein down our flanks. Our defending at one of the free kicks wasn't great, the other (I forget the order now and can't be arsed to rewatch) was just too good. Formation of front 6 to blame. Moore hasn't been perfect, but he has been excellent, and with a bit more quality/intelligence in front of him the last three games would have been very different IMO. Konch has made one mistake but otherwise been great. RDL has definitely got room to improve, and we have a replacement, but I think people underestimate the value he brings to the side. Kasper's pros outweigh his cons. To me, I think we need to bring Vardy back in, which I'm afraid means putting Leo on the bench. James is still a bit rusty but he will come good. I would like to see more from DD though-at the moment King seems to offer a lot more all round. The other weak link is Schlupp, and I'm not sure about the solution. Albrighton RW, Mahrez LW? Mahrez RW, Knocky LW? Vice-versa? Anyway, long rant to say attack is the best form of defence, and our attack has been dog. That's where we should focus in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 23 October 2014 Author Share Posted 23 October 2014 Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I don't see how our defence are the reason we're losing points here. We lost to Newcastle because in 92 minutes we gave their keeper a mishit cross to worry about, and nothing else. We lost because we couldn't control the ball, and when we did go forward the last ball was pathetic. Midfield to blame. Against Burnley we drew because we lost our heads. We were in control, and then gave it up when they pulled one back. When the 90 minutes was up we got scared, gave the ball away consistently and ended up giving away a needless free kick. (Has anyone else noticed how many far post free kicks have been struck since that goal that the keeper got nowhere near?Maybe Kasper wasn't so wrong...?) Midfield (and wall) to blame. We dropped points at Palace because we were stifled-we had no outlets and they had free rein down our flanks. Our defending at one of the free kicks wasn't great, the other (I forget the order now and can't be arsed to rewatch) was just too good. Formation of front 6 to blame. Moore hasn't been perfect, but he has been excellent, and with a bit more quality/intelligence in front of him the last three games would have been very different IMO. Konch has made one mistake but otherwise been great. RDL has definitely got room to improve, and we have a replacement, but I think people underestimate the value he brings to the side. Kasper's pros outweigh his cons. To me, I think we need to bring Vardy back in, which I'm afraid means putting Leo on the bench. James is still a bit rusty but he will come good. I would like to see more from DD though-at the moment King seems to offer a lot more all round. The other weak link is Schlupp, and I'm not sure about the solution. Albrighton RW, Mahrez LW? Mahrez RW, Knocky LW? Vice-versa? Anyway, long rant to say attack is the best form of defence, and our attack has been dog. That's where we should focus in my view. We dropped points at Palace because we couldn't DEFEND from two set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Ulike Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 We dropped points at Palace because we couldn't DEFEND from two set pieces. ... and nothing to do with the fact that statistically we have the joint worst attack in the Premiership away from home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 23 October 2014 Author Share Posted 23 October 2014 ... and nothing to do with the fact that statistically we have the joint worst attack in the Premiership away from home?If We'd not conceded we wouldn't have lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Ulike Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 If We'd not conceded we wouldn't have lost... Yeah I know how numbers work. You don’t though: WORST away attack in the league. The worst. Joint with QPR. 1 paltry goal scored. THIRD best away defence in the league. Better than Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd. And you're hammering the defence? Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 23 October 2014 Author Share Posted 23 October 2014 Yeah I know how numbers work. You don’t though: WORST away attack in the league. The worst. Joint with QPR. 1 paltry goal scored. THIRD best away defence in the league. Better than Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd. And you're hammering the defence? Odd. What do we need to do in attack then Jose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 23 October 2014 Author Share Posted 23 October 2014 Yeah I know how numbers work. You don’t though: WORST away attack in the league. The worst. Joint with QPR. 1 paltry goal scored. THIRD best away defence in the league. Better than Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd. And you're hammering the defence? Odd. What do we need to do in attack then Jose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 Someone should post that Morgan Moore video from Chelsea with the hilarious music. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfumePonce Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 lol I think this was the game when a lot of 'Wes Moores' and 'Liam Morgans' were getting thrown about by the commentators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 If We'd not conceded we wouldn't have lost... If we'd strung two passes together we wouldn't have had to defend so consistently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 What do we need to do in attack then Jose? Hold onto the ball in the second half of games. Pass backwards if necessary. If there's no cross on, don't cross it. Be patient. Draw them forward and attack with pace. Be clinical. Don't get within 25 yards of the byeline and hoof it hopefully towards the big lad. If you want an illustration of winning games against similar opponents, look at what Palace did to us. We were riding high and they stopped us dead, played to their strengths and converted their chances. We had one shot on target all match, despite 60% possession. To me, our defence didn't defend badly in any of the last three games. But we didn't threaten enough to keep the opposition honest, so they could afford to commit more to the attack. Don't think it's terminal. Bit of confidence and some tactical tweaking and we'll be away, and once we're dangerous up the other end again, no one will look at the back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 RDL; Schlupp; Konch;--Just not good enough to be first choices in any Premiership team. They are lost souls, so far. Work ethic is not a problem, but ability sure as hell is. Well, that's my view chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxfordfox83 Posted 23 October 2014 Share Posted 23 October 2014 RDL; Schlupp; Konch;--Just not good enough to be first choices in any Premiership team. They are lost souls, so far. Work ethic is not a problem, but ability sure as hell is. Well, that's my view chaps. RDL has annoyed plenty of people, but I think he's worth persevering with. Can understand frustration though. Schlupp is looking less and less a Premier League player each time he starts, but presumably Nigel sees something. I don't think he should start for a while. But you're dead wrong on Konch, one of the stand out players of our season so far. A shaky game against Newcastle (which mostly amounted to that catastrophic back pass) and the haters are back out. He's been a revelation this season for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 10 January 2015 Author Share Posted 10 January 2015 People still thinking he's not been worthy of his place then? Especially the arrogant first few replies in the thread . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujek Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Was has been tremendous this season, although I am disappointed he has hardly elbowed anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Thought he was going to sent off today with a two footed lunge in the first half. Aside from getting beaten quite easily once by Agbonlahor he was solid again. Trys too many long range passes for my liking but he's solid enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzerfox Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 I think Matty Upson's performances have been just as heroic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Man mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 He's posted a picture of his back on Instagram after the game, looks like someone raked their studs down his back pretty badly, hope he got them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman_Mike Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 He was outstanding today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamba's Babes Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 First on the scene during the scuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Yes watch the scuffle, Olympic sprinter speed to be first in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Stuck my neck on the line early to say he should come in over Liam, he's done all right since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theessexfox Posted 10 January 2015 Share Posted 10 January 2015 Wes and he coped with Benteke superbly today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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