MPH Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Before today we had conceded one goal from open play in 6 league games. Today we conceded an offside goal, a gk mistake and an own goal. To me the issue is that we have been absolutely woeful in midfield for quite some time now. We are not creating enough clear goalscoring chances. There is no point spending £9 million in a player if he isn't going to get the opportunities. And did Albrighton piss in Pearson's cornflakes or something?
Kyuubi Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 The defence is still an issue but I agree, if your midfield aren't creating enough chances and keeping possession there's little point in expecting much from 2 strikers worth 18m
Guest Col city fan Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Before today we had conceded one goal from open play in 6 league games. Today we conceded an offside goal, a gk mistake and an own goal. To me the issue is that we have been absolutely woeful in midfield for quite some time now. We are not creating enough clear goalscoring chances. There is no point spending £9 million in a player if he isn't going to get the opportunities. And did Albrighton piss in Pearson's cornflakes or something? You are saying something I said months ago. Our midfield at this level is shocking. Exactly why I urged us to strengthen in this area. Hammond and James are the best pairing. And we suffer when they are out.
ChrisWoodIsClass Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 I fully agree, I posted a thread after the stoke match saying how poor king and drinkwater just get completely over run
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Kramaric was poor today although he got **** all service. Midfield was poor
Buzzell Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Both the midfield and defence is the issue. Were poor in both areas.
NewquayFox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Midfield was as weak as we could field against one of the most expensive teams around, left back still an issue but unless we attack with the ball instead of booting it over the midfield we will struggle...
Guest kristianity77 Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 It is the midfield. The defence has been OK apart from a few dodgy mistakes. This is proven by the fact that we have conceded 37 in 23 games. Its not disastrous by any means. When you think last season Fulham shipped 85 and Cardiff 74, the season before Wigan let in 73 and Reading 73 our defence looks pretty solid for lower end team. The problem is and has been bar a couple of games there is no link between Defence and Attack, which just results in aimless long balls which Premier League defences will lap up all day long whilst pissing themselves with laughter about how we resort to playing. Bar brief instances of brilliance from Mahrez and Cambiasso (when fit) we've got abolutely zero creativity in our side. And with Pearson opting to leave player like Albrighton on the bench, the only option we have to bypass midfield completely and hope that we might get a chance or two. Thats pretty much in a nutshell how every game has panned out over the last few months or so. No opposition team ever has to do any homework on us because thats the only way we play at the minute.
kingfox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 The midfield don't offer the defence enough support, the midfield don't offer our attackers enough support. If the midfield can't keep hold of the ball, or play in a negative manner when they do get it, then we won't get anywhere. We have seriously missed Hammond & James in our last three games, Drinkwater & King are too weak for this division they are simply getting outmuscled and outclassed.
LCFCCKEANO Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 For me we have 3 mids good enough for the prem- 2 of which should never partner one another (Hammond and Cambiasso). We need another James type player, strong box to box, stamina to burn to go with eithe Cambiasso or Hammond, not to replace James, but for situations like right now, when he isn't available
Guest Col city fan Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 The midfield don't offer the defence enough support, the midfield don't offer our attackers enough support. If the midfield can't keep hold of the ball, or play in a negative manner when they do get it, then we won't get anywhere. We have seriously missed Hammond & James in our last three games, Drinkwater & King are too weak for this division they are simply getting outmuscled and outclassed. Hence the call for Lee Cattermole (or equivalent). People can take the piss all they like. For me, it's been clear as crystal.
kingfox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Hence the call for Lee Cattermole (or equivalent). People can take the piss all they like. For me, it's been clear as crystal. But we don't need another defensive minded hard tackler Col, Cambiasso & Hammond have proved that they can do that kind of work. What we need is another Matty James type player, or someone who can get into the hole, find the spaces and create chances.
Clever Fox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 We're simply not good enough to play without wingers. Using wingers give any team a little breathing space which allows the midfield to move forward and take up better positions. So my questions is why cant Pearson see that.
ScouseFox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 king and Drinkwater play whilst cambiasso and hammond don't and we only lost by 2 gotta say that's a positive IMHO. would've got a point if I was allowed to pick the cms tbf.
connorlcfc Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 i agree, wish we'd get rid of that pathetic excuse of a football player king, stands there pointing his finger at everyone every game and yet does nothing at all and we have no midfield what so ever when he plays, not like we've got anyone to replace him because cambiasso isnt much better and hammonds to slow, james doesnt seem to do anything when he plays so either way we're stuffed unless we manage to buy someone quick
cc_star Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Before today we had conceded one goal from open play in 6 league games. Today we conceded an offside goal, a gk mistake and an own goal. To me the issue is that we have been absolutely woeful in midfield for quite some time now. We are not creating enough clear goalscoring chances. There is no point spending £9 million in a player if he isn't going to get the opportunities. And did Albrighton piss in Pearson's cornflakes or something? Don't really think either are, we're just not consistent and different aspects of our team play towards their best on different weeks. Yes,we could always do with more quality wherever on the pitch For me today Pearson got it wrong We should have matched Utd's diamond like we did at the KP, big mistake not to play Hammond in a deeper role for me (assuming he was fit) and if not we needed an extra body in the middle, it just wasn't competitive today until we made half a go at being better after the break, taking off the ineffective as ever Vardy and bringing on Albrighton Although for me we started looking lively when Nugent got on the ball... Him and Albrighton must start for me
orangecity23 Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Don't really think either are, we're just not consistent and different aspects of our team play towards their best on different weeks. Yes,we could always do with more quality wherever on the pitch For me today Pearson got it wrong We should have matched Utd's diamond like we did at the KP, big mistake not to play Hammond in a deeper role for me (assuming he was fit) and if not we needed an extra body in the middle, it just wasn't competitive today until we made half a go at being better after the break, taking off the ineffective as ever Vardy and bringing on Albrighton Although for me we started looking lively when Nugent got on the ball... Him and Albrighton must start for me I do wonder if Pearson expected Man U to play a 3-5-2 today, it would explain why we went with Schlupp and Vardy as wingers, as there would have been space on the flanks behind the United wing backs when they pushed forwards. Unfortunately, United lined up with the diamond midfield, and we got outnumbered in the middle and there wasn't any space behind the fullbacks very often.
SecretPro Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 I do wonder if Pearson expected Man U to play a 3-5-2 today, it would explain why we went with Schlupp and Vardy as wingers, as there would have been space on the flanks behind the United wing backs when they pushed forwards. Unfortunately, United lined up with the diamond midfield, and we got outnumbered in the middle and there wasn't any space behind the fullbacks very often. Could he not have changed it when he realised after 30 seconds?
thybluefox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 The midfield should do 2 things; protect the back 4 and provide service to the front players. Currently they're doing neither - evident by the amount of chances we've conceded and the lack of chances we've created. Different game today if we'd have been stronger in centre mid, even with cambiasso and Hammond together we'd have done more.
orangecity23 Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Could he not have changed it when he realised after 30 seconds? Absolutely, but he sat and waited to see how it panned out first unfortunately. I'm just trying to explain why Vardy might have started on the wing.
Guest Col city fan Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 But we don't need another defensive minded hard tackler Col, Cambiasso & Hammond have proved that they can do that kind of work. What we need is another Matty James type player, or someone who can get into the hole, find the spaces and create chances. No, we needed a good DM. Cambiasso isn't it. People still insist on kissing his ass, why I'll never know? AND a creative midfielder. The ones we have are too similar, too much of a muchness. We needed to improve both positions..someone who simply sits and defends, someone who gets forward and links up play. But both, better than we already had. We didn't..we bought in Cambi, stuck with the rest..and we sit bottom.
m4DD0gg Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Midfield has seen the area of the team with the most changes all season, defence has been pretty much the same and not really embarrassed itself bar a few individual mistakes. Think its very clear now that drinkwater and king are not premier league midfielders and dont look as though they ever will.
kingfox Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 No, we needed a good DM. Cambiasso isn't it. People still insist on kissing his ass, why I'll never know? AND a creative midfielder. The ones we have are too similar, too much of a muchness. We needed to improve both positions..someone who simply sits and defends, someone who gets forward and links up play. But both, better than we already had. We didn't..we bought in Cambi, stuck with the rest..and we sit bottom. I'm not a Cambiasso ass kisser myself, but he does get stuck in & is a better passer of the ball than Drinkwater & King. Hammond though our record with him in the side speaks for itself, he get's stuck in, closes down well & breaks down opposition play, even in the games we have lost with him in the side, Chelsea especially he was probably our best player that day. What we need are players that are capable of keeping hold of the ball, at this moment in time Drinkwater & King aren't the answer. Hammond keeps possession because he keeps it simple, James when on form is a vital part of our side, he can do everything apart from shoot, but we could do with another player like him, a workhorse type player who works hard in both areas of the field. Or as you say a creative midfielder who is free to roam, pick the spaces and cause problems.
weller54 Posted 31 January 2015 Posted 31 January 2015 Midfield has seen the area of the team with the most changes all season, defence has been pretty much the same and not really embarrassed itself bar a few individual mistakes. Think its very clear now that drinkwater and king are not premier league midfielders and dont look as though they ever will. You know this, I know this and most people on this forum know this.... But NP is so pigheaded and arrogant!..
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