Rob1742 Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough.
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough. Great post. Pretty much word for word, I agree with it. For me, the biggest regret will be if we don't get a second crack in the Premiership. Mahrez and Schlupp will be better. We'd have a years more experience and we'd secure some better players. Some of the errors we've made this season probably wouldn't happen next. The Prem us the toughest, most competitive division in world football. We've not been far off so far, but just not quite good enough overall. IF we can sneak it and stay up, next season will be better. I'm convinced. It's not been about effort this season. We've just not quite been good enough.
Deucalion Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Totally agree with the OP. The only thing I would add is that we have too many players prone to individual errors. Losing men in the box, mis-placing passes, missing sitters. We have the basis for a decent team and I would love to see Pearson continue to build. If we are relegated though, we will only keep the average and the good enough will be off to pastures new.
dorsetboy Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 If we had bought in kramaric and huth at the start of the season and kasper stayed fit I think we would not be in this position
Ross-Kemp Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 You are aware that was Hutton's 1st goal in years & he also has a terrible attitude. Exactly the type of player we're missing
catfordfox Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Yep, agree with that - with Huth, Cambiasso, Mahrez and Kramaric I think we've now got a Premier League-quality spine of the team. But it's taken too long to get there. TBF to Nige, i suspect he thought more of last season's squad would step up, as did I (especially Drinkwater, I can't believe how poor he's been, a game here and there aside). Plus combined with him being too loyal - see starting Wes instead of Wasyl last night. Question is now we've finally got a thread of quality running through the team, has it arrived too late.
bovril Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 The only summary you really need to know is that we've got 9 points from the last 60. That's a not a fine margin.
harpendenfox Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Good post Rob. We clearly have an excellent spirit and can play pretty well. Loyalty is usually a pretty good virtue, but with the significant benefit of hindsight, loyalty to the likes of Nuge, Wes and Konch has been misplaced. They're all decent players. They're just not quite good enough and won't get much better. I suspect JV won't improve much either, but desperately hope I'm wrong. Hammond and King won't improve much yet. James and Drinky, who knows? They were brilliant in the Champo, and if we return there, lets hope they are again. Will they ever be good enough for the Prem? That's for people more qualified than me to judge.
Benjani Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 How can we have an excellent spirit yet draw at home to burnley, lose to qpr, villa, crystal palace twice, west brom, Shrewsbury Town at home. We are up for it against the big sides (arsenal, man u, man city, Liverpool, Tottenham) but can't motivate themselves for the smaller teams. That isnt a good spirit
whitlock Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough. Hutton has one goal in his whole Villa career.
Donut Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 If your team is "playing well" and has won 4 league games all season, i think that says it all. The players give everything theyve got, the manager gives everything hes got. People will differ on their opinions but theyve done their best. Weve been the worst team in the league this season, and anyone who says we havent been is only doing it through blue specs.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 For me that is the reason why we must stick with NP. He will improve us over time, players that may be attracted to premier league teams (if we go down) may decide to stick with us if we show the continuity and desire to come straight back up. Maybe my glasses are tinted blue, but i can only hope that's the case. Us older ones have seen enough and suffered enough with disruption of management, it rarely works so please give him time.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough. Good post, but this summarizes what people have been saying all season' nothing we didn't already know. The summer transfer window, is what has cost us.
Crinklyfox Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Most teams in the lower half of the PL have some players that aren't really PL class, we're only different in that we may have more than most. The difference has been that we have made costly errors in a large number of matches which have turned good and average performances into losses. You can't do that at any level and definitely not in the PL. The damage has been done and we now have to turn in an exceptional set of results to avoid relegation. Week after week I see posters saying its only 3 or 4 points but some of the sides above us are improving too. I haven't given up hope but while we are still making these errors I don't see a points rush on the horizon.
eye666 Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Can you rename this thread "The season so far in summary"? I get that we're 5 points from safety, but one result can change the picture completely and I won't give up hope until there's an R by our name on the BBC Sport website. We still have games against Hull, WBA, Sunderland, Burnley and QPR, and bearing in mind this league is tighter than a nun's chuff, win the majority of those then we have a chance...
Vicki Vixen Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough. A good post about our lack of quality, completely ruined by your decision to use Alan Hutton as an example of what we are missing.
crisp packet Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Individual mistakes , lack of composure in front of goal. Trusting our championship winning squad too much. It was plain as day last season who our stand out players and poorer players were? The former haven't stepped up , the latter were not replaced and play more than ever? Consistenty was the key last season , there has been none this. The key word in all this is quality? We didn't recruit enough in either window down the spine... Much of which may have been down to the wage structure but that's another story. I still don't believe the premier league is all that? We have had some terrible results for half a season? Yet we are 5 points from being SAFE(yes it is going up)and yes we cannot keep saying it regarding the gap.why are so many resigned to it all ready ! We waited ten years for this.Very long shot but stranger things of happened this is LCFC. Old saying very rarely heard 'keep the faith'
Stoopid Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Terrible run - plumb bottom - doom & gloom. Suddenly we find a goal-scorer, go on a great run, finish safe. Substitute Kramaric for Chris Garland, Robert Huth for Geoff Blockley and as the wiser amongst you realise, it really ain't over yet. Keep smiling...
Steven Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 Loyalty to players that according to their skill levels in the PL do not deserve it Not focused on the task in hand in an overall and game by game basis Abandoning the principles that have brought success previously Poor tactical awareness Poor man management - playing favourites Poor stress management Poor media handling General lack of understanding of the task ahead at the beginning of the season ... and so a woeful lack of preparedness
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 11 February 2015 Posted 11 February 2015 We have kept a very good structure, a group that work together well, who are mentally well prepared and have a togetherness that is missing in so many clubs. Pearson has kept this togetherness by adding bits to what we had, rather than spending fortunes (which he may not have been allowed too)! and starting from scratch. But the quality of what we have just isn't as good as the others. I was looking last night. Cambissso, Kramaric, Mahrez were excellent. Schupp has come on very well and Waslewski has been superb this season. But, and this is where it falls down, if you mix them with the likes of Delaet, Morgan, Nugent, Vardy, James, Konch, King etc, we just are not good enough to win games at this level. Last night again showed we are not a bad side play wise, the same can be said all season, but the actual tools we have are just not good enough. The average players last night are just not good enough to turn a decent team performance into a win. We are carrying too much average. Plain and simple, other teams have more quality players that can get them a win. They have more quality in their mix. You see games where other teams play awful, but they have that quality of player that can create something at the drop of a hat and score goals, whereas we don't. Look at Villa away, they have Hutton who got them that win that day, we don't have that. A right back that can defend, but also be creative and score. Same at Newcastle away, can't remember who scored, but they have more quality players, and one of them is likely to do something quality, whereas we don't have that. I think Pearson has done well to build a team that plays well, but you simply can't get anything more from what we have. Just my thoughts, we can all say well he should have played instead of him, but they are all much of a muchness and most of the group are of a similar quality. Over the years I have seen many Leicester teams where there are clearly massive issues throughout, there is simply nothing there, no idea, nothing and you know it is completely broken and you know we need to start all over again. But this is not that, this is down to us not having the quality of player to compete. We have a few, but not enough. I agree in principle - I personally would not James in the bracket you have - but why wasnt the manager able able to grasp this in April? I see this season as an opportunity missed, and can't get away from the fact he has cocked this up big time, undoing a large part of the good he has done in this tenure. Very frustrating
cullenfox Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 This season has been something of a mixed bag. We've had some great results (5-3 against Man Utd) and some crap ones (2-2 against Burnley) At the beginning of the season I thought we were more than capable of finishing in 16 or 17. Now, however, we would be lucky if we didn't finish rock bottom.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 This is my personal summary of our season so far: I think we continue to put in good performances, team spirit and a lot of effort in to trying to win games. Although we are currently bottom of the league, these attributes are still very important to have. Players such as Mahrez, Wasyl, Schlupp, Hammond and Ulloa have all impressed me. I cannot single anyone out who has been bad for us to be honest. With a few more months of the season still left, the fans continued support is going to be key for the players and management.
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 February 2015 Posted 14 February 2015 The season, in summary for me, is thus: 1. There was a sizeable under-estimation of the demands of the Premier League. Even the 'lesser' sides are well versed in grinding out results. West Brom, at home, being a good example. This was apparent both in terms of Nigel Pearson, I think, and certainly some of our fans. I do think Nigel tried to sign better, but couldn't for numerous reasons. 2. Injuries etc are part of a squad. They happen. In spite of this, Pearson has never seemed to know his best formation and team. 3. Some of our players have done better, recently, than most of thought they would. Schlupp and Mahrez seem to be growing into the Premiership. Others have been the opposite. Most notably, IMO, Jamie Vardy, who has simply missed just too many good chances at this level. 4. Some of Pearson's off-field behaviour has, been indicative of our on-field form. Spats with fans and bizarre pulling back of opposing players shirts do not usually happen if the team is successful. The two aren't mutually exclusive. 5. The squad has retained its spirit. We look as up for the fight now as we did at the start. Pearson should be commended for that. 6. Pearson has developed an almost God-like status amongst some of our fans. They will defend him to the hilt. Even against people like Gary Lineker, who, in my eyes, has City pretty much in his blood. 7. The Thais have been a very patient group. At a time where other clubs have bitten the bullet and sought replacements, our owners have not. Whether this proves to be misguided loyalty, or not, remains to be seen. 8. Our FA cup run has been good and enjoyable. I really hope it continues. Getting to Wembley would be a major boost for this club. 9. Kramaric looks like a good young player. It is to be hoped we stay up, and that he stays with us. He looks a player who really knows where the goal is. To summarise, we've had a lot of 'well what did you expect?' Or 'it's going to take time to adapt to the Premiership' etc. Well I expected more than we've had so far, and if that goes for us, it must go for Burnley too and QPR too. Like it or not, we finished well above Burnley last season, they have spent a lot less than us, yet currently sit above us and QPR outside of the drop-zone. I expected for this to not be the case.
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