Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Hhhmmm, did go on a bit of a blinded rant, but it seems ludicrous just to back him for fear of upheaval at the club? So where do you stand on Pearson's future? On the basis of what I know, I'd give him until Christmas next year, barring a catastrophic start to next season. That was what I thought at the end of last season and us struggling hasn't changed my mind as I knew it was a massive possibility. There are many factors that I don't know that could change that drastically. That includes the availability of an outstanding candidate, what went on with recruitment, ongoing mindset of the squad.
Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The core squad will be uprooted anyway. You keep saying this, who? Ulloa maybe, Schlupp Maybe, Mahrez most probable, Kramaric we have no idea what's going on. Has anyone else covered themselves in glory? Out of contracts like Upson, Was, Konch, Maybe Knockaert. So you'd lose two players who were regulars all of last season basically.
hackneyfox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The core squad will be uprooted anyway.Exactly6 players over 30 will need to be replaced fairly quickly. I expect Mahrez, James and Kramaric will leave. Can't imagine that Albrigton will stay after the way he's been treated. Would Knocky stay as he will know that should we get promoted he won't play?
Callabinho Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 We won't come back up, this kind of season is damaging in more ways than one, better teams than us have gone down in recent years and fall into mid table mediocrity, we're no different.
MHC Posted 16 February 2015 Author Posted 16 February 2015 Last season. I can't see how you can think it'll be remotely the same next season after this embarrassing campaign. This is precisely my point.
smudger63 Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 So on the basis that we should keep pearson next season because he has proved he can manage in the championship, would it then be the right thing to do, to get rid of him if he gets us promoted, having proved this season that he cant manage in the premier league!
hackneyfox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 We will have a strike force of an ageing Nugent, Wood and Vardy. No wingers The back 4 will need to be replaced. Should we get promoted then who would sign for us after this appalling season? We will have a strike force of an ageing Nugent, Wood and Vardy. No wingers The back 4 will need to be replaced. Should we get promoted then who would sign for us after this appalling season?
Webbo Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 You keep saying this, who? Ulloa maybe, Schlupp Maybe, Mahrez most probable, Kramaric we have no idea what's going on. Has anyone else covered themselves in glory? Out of contracts like Upson, Was, Konch, Maybe Knockaert. So you'd lose two players who were regulars all of last season basically. You've just mentioned 8 players who have all featured this season. Add Albrighton , Drinkwater and King as players who probably see their future elsewhere and you've got a big chunk of the squad gone.
Collibosher70 Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Lennon a goon ?...bit harsh....great player for us and I don't understand the heskey bit....we've got a 42 year old keeper
ScouseFox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 We will have a strike force of an ageing Nugent, Wood and Vardy. No wingers The back 4 will need to be replaced. Should we get promoted then who would sign for us after this appalling season? nugent wood and vardy won us the league by miles last year. if we were to sell both ulloa and kramaric that'd be at least 10 million for this scouting network to splash on a new striker or two. albrighton, schlupp, possibly knockaert and in our wildest dreams mahrez are all wingers who either will or may well be here next season. the back four needs replacing? who? hamer in goal, de laet and simpson will both stay, moore will be able to learn more of the trade in the championship, morgan will still be here and has proven over ten years to be one of the best cbs in the championship, was might be offski, upson was brighton's player of the season in the championship and i doubt he'll be receiving many premier league offers. konchesky will probably stay and we'll hopefully add a new left back as competition. as for the last line just . you talk such utter bollocks. who would sign for a premier league team? are you out of your mind? absolutely anyone who wants to play in the premier league would join us. You've just mentioned 8 players who have all featured this season. Add Albrighton , Drinkwater and King as players who probably see their future elsewhere and you've got a big chunk of the squad gone. why would king leave? why would drinkwater? why would anyone leave if we keep pearson unless they get premier league offers, which they clearly aren't going to because they're all so bad?
Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 You've just mentioned 8 players who have all featured this season. Add Albrighton , Drinkwater and King as players who probably see their future elsewhere and you've got a big chunk of the squad gone. You could easily field the following team: Kasper De Laet - Moore - Wes - (new left Back) Albrighton - James - Drinkwater - Lawrence Nugent - Vardy King, Wood, Hamer, Hammond. And that's if ALL of those players I mentioned go. Not that much different to what we got promoted with.
Webbo Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The stats man who found all these great players (Mahrez) has gone to Tottenham anyway.
Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 So on the basis that we should keep pearson next season because he has proved he can manage in the championship, would it then be the right thing to do, to get rid of him if he gets us promoted, having proved this season that he cant manage in the premier league! I would say you go into it with a different mind set and would be quicker to act than you were first time around.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 How? In what way? Who? What have you heard to suggest it hasn't?
MHC Posted 16 February 2015 Author Posted 16 February 2015 Expecting us to succeed under Pearson next season because he has done it before is a pretty poor excuse to keep him. Losing in the play off semi finals would have a very different effect on a group of players compared to getting destroyed in the Premier League week in week out. Pearson won't take us back up immediately. Some really good arguments for and against on here though.
Socks Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 yes we could go back up again next season and Pearson could do it for us with no problems at all, hes a good championship manager But then would we come straight back down again if he continued to manage us ?? I think the problem is overall he just isn't good enough in the prem IMO but probably the best in any other league....
Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The stats man who found all these great players (Mahrez) has gone to Tottenham anyway. Sigh... stop chucking out nonsense like this. He's been here about three years, Walsh was known by us to pick up good players long before he arrived. If you'd read the articles of his on Sky you would not he was just one cog in the machine.
st albans fox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 We came into the season with a winning mentality. We went into the pitch expecting a good result. That saw us through the first month or so - witness the way we responded to going behind in those first few games. We now go into the pitch expecting to lose. Not at the forefront of our minds of course but it's there - close to the front. As soon as something goes against us, it's natural that the heads go down. At Liverpool we felt an injustice and that helped to galvanise us. This group know what it was like to suffer at Watford and come back stronger. I believe they can draw on that experience again next season. Ironically, it's pearson who is probably best placed to do the job in this respect. (It pains me to say this btw) Most of what happens in the championship is in the head. If we can get our mental attitude right with this squad (no krama, EC or rm) then we should come straight back. If it's wrong, then be sure that we could easily struggle.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Of course it's based on previous years, why would we base what he can do in the Championship on what he's done in the premier league. Of course he has done well for us in previous years, despite that dreadful run the season before last, but that is neither here nor there. He most certainly does not have the players "playing for him" this season, in any sense of the word, Far from it, this season has been a fiasco, that he has been incapable of controlling. It will he harder for players next season, should we get relegated, to be motivated. We will probably lose the only decent players we have, and the squad will go through more personnel changes, than is healthy. Frankly, I do not envisage us setting the Championship on fire. A top ten finish probably,but promotion?
Max Power Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 You could easily field the following team: Kasper De Laet - Moore - Wes - (new left Back) Albrighton - James - Drinkwater - Lawrence Nugent - Vardy King, Wood, Hamer, Hammond. And that's if ALL of those players I mentioned go. Not that much different to what we got promoted with. That 'new left back' shout is optimistic.
Webbo Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 You could easily field the following team: Kasper De Laet - Moore - Wes - (new left Back) Albrighton - James - Drinkwater - Lawrence Nugent - Vardy King, Wood, Hamer, Hammond. And that's if ALL of those players I mentioned go. Not that much different to what we got promoted with. Wood and Hamer that's another 2 who'll want to leave. Hammond isn't getting any younger either.
ScouseFox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 So on the basis that we should keep pearson next season because he has proved he can manage in the championship, would it then be the right thing to do, to get rid of him if he gets us promoted, having proved this season that he cant manage in the premier league! i'd say this season he's failed, but the first season he came back (well, he started in november) he failed to get us up which was his objective, and the season after that he failed once more. but we learnt, we added what was missing and we came back stronger. that could well happen again, no? everyone wanted him gone after barnsley 2013 but we stuck with him and came back stronger. could that not happen again? just because someone comes up short once it's no reason to just cast them aside forever, surely. millions of managers don't get it right first time round. most aren't given a chance to go again. but some who are get it right second time with experience and time. unfortunately this isn't looking like a situation where he will be given time and a second chance, which i'd say is a shame but on we go. we all support leicester not the manager at the end of the day. if he goes, he goes. i'll be disappointed but that's that.
ScouseFox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Wood and Hamer that's another 2 who'll want to leave. Hammond isn't getting any younger either. based on...? or are you just making things up?
Babylon Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Expecting us to succeed under Pearson next season because he has done it before is a pretty poor excuse to keep him. Why is it? You were specifically talking about promotion from the Championship to the Premiership. So if you're looking for a man with experience of galvanising a team in the champ and getting them promoted, then we already have one. It's one of the most compelling reasons to keep him. Well according to some we'll have no players left, so he can buy a new lot who have a better mind set can't he.
Max Power Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 based on...? or are you just making things up? Hamer is going to be a third choice Championship keeper? He's better than that.
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