Rincewind Posted 13 September 2015 Posted 13 September 2015 'Security' seems to be the new buzz word. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-called-jeremy-corbyn-6435223#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 I really cant see Corben lasting 12 months let alone to the next election. The parallels with UKIP, with the left wing of the Labour party suddenly coming under massive public scrutiny, is obvious. We now have a shadow chancellor who has supported 60% tax rates, nationalisation without compensation for shareholders, and last but not least thinks the IRA terror campaign was a success and is something to be celebrated. And before FIF says it, as tory I am not scared at all of any likelihood of this Labour group leading the country - they are 50 years too late for that - but I do think re-opening silly debates about issues long dead will unsettle business and our NATO allies for example.
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 'Security' seems to be the new buzz word. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/david-cameron-called-jeremy-corbyn-6435223#ICID=sharebar_twitter Not a bad one really is it?
Jimothy Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Jeremy Corbyn missed the Andrew Marr Show but he had a good reason. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/13/jeremy-corbyn-andrew-marr-show-mental-health-fundraiser_n_8129766.html?1442157674 Whilst that's very kind of him to help out at a fundraiser, as leader he's going to have to accept he probably won't have as much time for that stuff any more. Sorry not a good reason imo.
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 He might need to rethink his approach to the press in general.
Finnegan Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 When I'm president of the universe, everyone who uses the phrase straw man in an argument will get a compulsory kick in the knackers.
Claridge Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 I see nothing wrong in asking the publick about the questions to ask. He has been all over the country in the last couple of months listening to peoples concerns. In fact he has always done it. How many MP's talk to the constituents other than election time? Will the questions he asks have been asked by previous MP's? We won't know until they are asked but they definately will not be easy questions to answer. He has been all over the country in the last couple of months listening to peoples concerns: So why does he need to ask them again?
Captain... Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 He might need to rethink his approach to the press in general. He is the Nigel Pearson of politics. I've kept out of this thread as initially I couldn't really care, but the support for Corbyn and his win is going to be really interesting, when discussing it on Saturday we concluded he is exactly the sort of person you want in opposition, but not necessarily in charge of the country. At worst it will be a shot in the arm for Labour, a lot of people want an alternative to the Tory party not Tory-lite more of the same. Miliband was more of the same and was dead in the water from the start, despite widespread distrust and dislike of the Tories he just never looked like a PM. Corbyn will not be a celebrity politician and will succeed with his policies and strength of opposition, so he does need to look like a PM and will not pander to the press or the people in the way Milliband had to, but his policies will need to stand up to huge levels of scrutiny. Interesting times for the Labour party and for politics.
Guest MattP Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 The bloke looks like he's already cracking up watching his walk of silence. John Mcdonnell as shadow chancellor makes Ed Balls look a good selection.
Guest MattP Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Now cancelled his appearance on the today show as well according to Sky. It's starting to look 50/50 if he'll bother to turn up to PMQ'S.
Lionator Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Corbyn "Wouldn't it be good if we lived in a world of peace with military never being required" The Sun's interpretation of this; "Corbyn to abolish the army" What chance does he have?
Claridge Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Corbyn "Wouldn't it be good if we lived in a world of peace with military never being required" The Sun's interpretation of this; "Corbyn to abolish the army" What chance does he have? Not a lot if he comes out with drippy statements like that. He is leader of the opposition and needs to grow up fast. He's not at his dopey fringe meetings anymore where the world can be changed if only...
bovril Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 That's one bitch that will be sucking satans cock for the rest of eternity, rott in hell, bitch!!! I sense displeasure.
Lionator Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Not a lot if he comes out with drippy statements like that. He is leader of the opposition and needs to grow up fast. He's not at his dopey fringe meetings anymore where the world can be changed if only... Whoever thought campaigning for peace could be described as drippy?
Rincewind Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Whilst that's very kind of him to help out at a fundraiser, as leader he's going to have to accept he probably won't have as much time for that stuff any more. Sorry not a good reason imo. Jeremy Corbyn attends mental health event on first day as Labour leader Corbyn takes part in community event in London constituency as party reveals 15,000 new members have joined in past 24 hours He said: “As a society we have to recognise that one in four of us during our lifetime will suffer a degree of depression, some of it will be very severe, some of it will be less so. Many of us will become sufferers of Alzheimer’s or other forms of dementia. We all have family or friends who are going through periods of stress. “And now this can be dealt with, it can be supported, it can be treated. It can be treated by various therapies, talking therapies, as well as drug therapies. In some cases people need to go into hospital to be cared for and supported. But we have to do two things – recognise that mental health is an intrinsic part of our national health service ... it’s instrinsic, central and absolutely the main part of it for many people and their lives. “Stop the jokes, stop the cheap jibes, stop the unpleasant language to describe people who are going through a crisis in their lives and recognise that we could all be in that place.” Not a good reason?
bovril Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Whoever thought campaigning for peace could be described as drippy? Some people these days are terrified of anything that might make them look 'lefty'.
Jimothy Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Jeremy Corbyn attends mental health event on first day as Labour leader Corbyn takes part in community event in London constituency as party reveals 15,000 new members have joined in past 24 hours He said: “As a society we have to recognise that one in four of us during our lifetime will suffer a degree of depression, some of it will be very severe, some of it will be less so. Many of us will become sufferers of Alzheimer’s or other forms of dementia. We all have family or friends who are going through periods of stress. “And now this can be dealt with, it can be supported, it can be treated. It can be treated by various therapies, talking therapies, as well as drug therapies. In some cases people need to go into hospital to be cared for and supported. But we have to do two things – recognise that mental health is an intrinsic part of our national health service ... it’s instrinsic, central and absolutely the main part of it for many people and their lives. “Stop the jokes, stop the cheap jibes, stop the unpleasant language to describe people who are going through a crisis in their lives and recognise that we could all be in that place.” Like I said it's very nice of him to attend, and it's a noble cause. In time he might be able to do some of these, I imagine Cameron finds time to even as PM, but on day one of your leadership, he has other stuff to do. Sorry just being realistic. He's job has now changed to something totally unrecognisable, he can't go pissing about doing exactly what he likes anymore. He asked for the responsibility to lead the party, now he has to take it.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 I'm not up to speed on Labour MPs, can someone explain what John Mcdonnell's done is his career to earn the title of Shadow Chancellor? What did he do before he was an MP?
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Like I said it's very nice of him to attend, and it's s noble cause. In time he might be able to do some of these, I imagine Cameron finds time to even as PM, but on day one of your leadership, he has other stuff to do. Sorry just being realistic. He's job has now changed to something totally unrecognisable, he can't go pissing about doing exactly what he likes anymore. He asked for the responsibility to lead the party, now he has to take it. Indeed, So far he looks like a numpty.
MPH Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Why are so many people refusing to be in his government?
johnny the fox Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McDonnell_(politician) The new shadow chancellor .wanted "honours" for IRA terrorists.. sounds reasonable..
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 Why are so many people refusing to be in his government? He doesn't have a Government, he has an opposition front bench.
Jon the Hat Posted 14 September 2015 Posted 14 September 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McDonnell_(politician) The new shadow chancellor .wanted "honours" for IRA terrorists.. sounds reasonable.. In charge of the finances of the Greater London Council, which was abolished for massive overspending? Hmmm. What could possibly go wrong.
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