AoWW Posted 12 May 2015 Posted 12 May 2015 When I worked security one place I worked was a car showroom on Abbey Lane.There used to be a fox come and visit at night.The thing was another officer who also did the site used to feed it so it came right up to the door.Even ate cake.Not quite tame enough as to eat out of hands but close to it I tried not to encourage it partly for that reason and also it may breed with offspring also tame. Used to see a fox or two early in the morning on the way home from a night shift.Once saw one chasing a cat. Have you heard foxes howl? I hear them bark most nights - I live in the middle of the countryside. Can't say I've ever heard one howl... are you sure you're not getting them muddled up with wolves?
Rincewind Posted 12 May 2015 Posted 12 May 2015 Sort of howl. High pitch noise. I doubt it was wolves. Used to have badgers on a site too. The conservation crowd came and did their usual stuff.
Rincewind Posted 12 May 2015 Posted 12 May 2015 The Tory's are preparing for the repeal by culling the No10 cat
ozleicester Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Without wishing to let the discussion be derailed... the simple answer is that Fox hunting is cruel. There in NO defending it, Fox hunters do it for sport, that is, they derive pleasure from torturing then killing a defenseless animal. Even if you support the culling of vermin..no rational person can support the cruelty of fox hunting. In regard to ... Not entirely sure what you're getting at there, as you actually said you'd burn places down to get your point across, in a previous thread. Anyway This looks to me like Police trying to keep it under control, rather than causing aggression Oh and let's not forget this little beauty either eh? Round of applause for the civilised demonstration there. Oh the outrage... a little bit of paint on a stone.... oh the horror. I was going to put a picture of a fox being ripped apart by some hounds, but couldnt find the spoiler tab thing to hide it (because unlike a little bit of paint on a stone... that picture REALLY is offensive)
theessexfox Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Without wishing to let the discussion be derailed... the simple answer is that Fox hunting is cruel. There in NO defending it, Fox hunters do it for sport, that is, they derive pleasure from torturing then killing a defenseless animal. Even if you support the culling of vermin..no rational person can support the cruelty of fox hunting. In regard to ... Oh the outrage... a little bit of paint on a stone.... oh the horror. I was going to put a picture of a fox being ripped apart by some hounds, but couldnt find the spoiler tab thing to hide it (because unlike a little bit of paint on a stone... that picture REALLY is offensive) Nothing like a bit of hyperbole to back up your point (which I agree with). To many people, that clearly means more than a little bit of paint on a stone.
Guest MattP Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Oh the outrage... a little bit of paint on a stone.... oh the horror. Always great to see your true colours. To think you claim to be passionate about things like ANZAC day as well.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Disrespectful as it i, its probably done by some mouth breathing idiot. It looks like the scrawl of a moron. I'm not sure what relevance it has to the argument. It's like Googling a picture of some twat Chelsea or Rangers fan giving a nazi salute and saying "look, this is what all football fans do. "
Darkon84 Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Without wishing to let the discussion be derailed... the simple answer is that Fox hunting is cruel. There in NO defending it, Fox hunters do it for sport, that is, they derive pleasure from torturing then killing a defenseless animal. Even if you support the culling of vermin..no rational person can support the cruelty of fox hunting. In regard to ... Oh the outrage... a little bit of paint on a stone.... oh the horror. I was going to put a picture of a fox being ripped apart by some hounds, but couldnt find the spoiler tab thing to hide it (because unlike a little bit of paint on a stone... that picture REALLY is offensive) Wow! I'm not even going to bother with a real answer to this. You're something different, you really are.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Not really. It is a bit of paint on a stone. Done by one retard. It has little relevance to this thread other than to serve as a distraction and isn't really representative of any wider group of society. Anybody with a brain, including ozleicester, would be annoyed if they witnessed the clueless **** actually doing it. Oz himself wouldn't go out and deface a statue nor does the graffiti reflect his views. He's just pointing out (for reasons I can't quite fathom, as it's all pretty irrelevant, as stated) that spray painting a monument - whilst disrespectful and idiotic - is not quite as sickening and is butchering an animal for fun. I'm assuming you don't disagree with that point? What would you rather? Some sick **** maiming your pet or spray painting an obscenity on a wall near your house? If you're going to try and use emotive, flag waving patriotism to try and deflect from the actual issue you could at least try a bit harder.
filbertway Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 It does make me laugh, the amount of people of facebook making a statement about fox hunting and attaching a video/picture of an adorable little fox to the post. I am yet to see any photo's of foxes with blood and feathers all over their chops after they've ripped 5 or 6 chickens to pieces. I don't agree with hunting using dogs to rip foxes apart as a form of pest control though.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Foxes are predators, what's your point? We love predators when they're nowhere near us. We all think lions and tigers and bears are cool. Everyone loves a good t rex skeleton or a bit of killer shark. It'd be both a boring world and a messed up ecosystem if we culled them all. I assume people realise foxes hunt rodents as well as all these chickens that apparently everyone keeps?
leicsmac Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Not really. It is a bit of paint on a stone. Done by one retard. It has little relevance to this thread other than to serve as a distraction and isn't really representative of any wider group of society. Anybody with a brain, including ozleicester, would be annoyed if they witnessed the clueless **** actually doing it. Oz himself wouldn't go out and deface a statue nor does the graffiti reflect his views. He's just pointing out (for reasons I can't quite fathom, as it's all pretty irrelevant, as stated) that spray painting a monument - whilst disrespectful and idiotic - is not quite as sickening and is butchering an animal for fun. I'm assuming you don't disagree with that point? What would you rather? Some sick **** maiming your pet or spray painting an obscenity on a wall near your house? If you're going to try and use emotive, flag waving patriotism to try and deflect from the actual issue you could at least try a bit harder. This. And I might add that the people that this statue are commemorating died for us to have the freedom to do something like this. Freedom of expression is freedom of expression, even if it is cvntish, disrespectful and petty like whoever did this was. That's what separates us from the brutal authoritarian regimes around the world.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Pretty sure that freedom of expression doesn't counter criminal damage to public property, not that I actually want to sidetrack this thread anymore. I'm not going anywhere near condoning or welcoming that graffiti. It's retarded on every level but that's all it is.
Guest MattP Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 This. And I might add that the people that this statue are commemorating died for us to have the freedom to do something like this. Freedom of expression is freedom of expression, even if it is cvntish, disrespectful and petty like whoever did this was. That's what separates us from the brutal authoritarian regimes around the world. No they didn't, that is criminal damage, not protest, people did not die in either World War to allow people the freedom to deface public property.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Aw, check us out getting all Matt-and-Webster saying the same stuff together. If that's not pan political harmony I don't know what is. #proudofFT
Darkon84 Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Not really. It is a bit of paint on a stone. Done by one retard. It has little relevance to this thread other than to serve as a distraction and isn't really representative of any wider group of society. Anybody with a brain, including ozleicester, would be annoyed if they witnessed the clueless **** actually doing it. Oz himself wouldn't go out and deface a statue nor does the graffiti reflect his views. He's just pointing out (for reasons I can't quite fathom, as it's all pretty irrelevant, as stated) that spray painting a monument - whilst disrespectful and idiotic - is not quite as sickening and is butchering an animal for fun. I'm assuming you don't disagree with that point? What would you rather? Some sick **** maiming your pet or spray painting an obscenity on a wall near your house? If you're going to try and use emotive, flag waving patriotism to try and deflect from the actual issue you could at least try a bit harder. Perhaps you missed the post on one of the previous pages where he made his dislike of the Tories pretty clear, so it probably does reflect his views, and also the defence of burning down buildings and looting in order to prove a point, where he also said he would do the same, as well as his pride for ANZAC day, therefore making the point about the memorial pretty hypocritical. So actually, thinking about it, his views are pretty extreme...unless of course, he was just being over the top, bitchy and having a knee jerk reaction as usual. Now there goes me being all bitchy and perhaps a little over the top. I'll leave it in there though. Things like fox hunting are obviously hugely divisive and in my opinion, are worth actually debating or having a decent discussion about, but when it all starts getting a bit silly about 'turning the tables and chasing tories through the streets' etc, it tends to lose any sort of sensibility and actual discussion. And then, we find ourselves in this position
Guest MattP Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Aw, check us out getting all Matt-and-Webster saying the same stuff together. If that's not pan political harmony I don't know what is. #proudofFT I think condeming graffiti on War memorials is something all sides would come together to agree on except a very small minority. I love you though Finners. #toryby2020
leicsmac Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Pretty sure that freedom of expression doesn't counter criminal damage to public property, not that I actually want to sidetrack this thread anymore. I'm not going anywhere near condoning or welcoming that graffiti. It's retarded on every level but that's all it is. No they didn't, that is criminal damage, not protest, people did not die in either World War to allow people the freedom to deface public property. Fair enough. I think it's fvcking awful too and massively disrespectful, as well as (as you say) being criminal damage. There are far, far better ways to get your point across. I was being rather wooly with my point-making there. Apologies for the further derail. But as Finn says, there's a world of difference in offence between that and chasing a fox down before having it torn to shreds.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 I'd like to think my posts about chasing fox hunters round the new parks with staffies were taken as fairly tongue in cheek. I stand by what I said about the abject cowardice and shame of fox hunting, mind, and was being slightly more half-serious regarding sending would be fox hunters on a tour of wolf pack territory to even things out. #trotskyiteby2017
The Doctor Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 I hear them bark most nights - I live in the middle of the countryside. Can't say I've ever heard one howl... are you sure you're not getting them muddled up with wolves? Given there haven't been wolves in the UK since about the time when Scotland was its own separate country, I doubt it. Reading through this, are people seriously using the pest-control argument? Rats are pests, but you don't get a segway and an army of cats and chase them round your front room do you? Why? Because it's woefully inefficient. You lay a set of traps, and if they don't work, call in the rent-a-kill guy. If foxes are indeed a pest (and I can see why they would be for farmers), then set traps or introduce a predator in small numbers - something efficient to control the numbers. Dressing up like a berk in order to torture small things isn't pest control, and if you're that desperate to do it, just go and tag along with your kids when they go out with friends - you'll achieve the same success without risking greenpeace throwing organically sourced red paint over you.
filbertway Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Given there haven't been wolves in the UK since about the time when Scotland was its own separate country, I doubt it. Reading through this, are people seriously using the pest-control argument? Rats are pests, but you don't get a segway and an army of cats and chase them round your front room do you? Why? Because it's woefully inefficient. You lay a set of traps, and if they don't work, call in the rent-a-kill guy. If foxes are indeed a pest (and I can see why they would be for farmers), then set traps or introduce a predator in small numbers - something efficient to control the numbers. Dressing up like a berk in order to torture small things isn't pest control, and if you're that desperate to do it, just go and tag along with your kids when they go out with friends - you'll achieve the same success without risking greenpeace throwing organically sourced red paint over you.
Rincewind Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Anti-foxhunting protesters destroy and paint graffiti on walls so tjhat is agood reason to forget about foxes being torn to shreds and why fox hunting should be allowed.
Darkon84 Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Anti-foxhunting protesters destroy and paint graffiti on walls so tjhat is agood reason to forget about foxes being torn to shreds and why fox hunting should be allowed. Nope. You're miles off there, but the thread's already been derailed once (partially by myself), so I won't go in to it and take us off at a tangent again. Read it again and try to work it out.
Guest MattP Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Poor old Ken Didn't read it again Scribbled on a memorial For him it's pictorial A damn good protest These folk are repressed Unlike red jacket wankers They're worse than the bankers We can all see it, But he'll never admit, Care for the fox? I think not Driven by hatred of the Tory Toff. Tory Toff Tory Toff Tory Toff Tory Toff 'majority' (Not in my name) Tory Toff Tory Toff................majority
Darkon84 Posted 13 May 2015 Posted 13 May 2015 Poor old Ken Didn't read it again Scribbled on a memorial For him it's pictorial A damn good protest These folk are repressed Unlike red jacket wankers They're worse than the bankers We can all see it, But he'll never admit, Care for the fox? I think not Driven by hatred of the Tory Toff.
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