EnderbyFox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 That wasn't just my logic, it was comparing it to being international managers, managed in European competition/Champions league, won titles (and not just second and third division). Better managers than Pearson in premier league: - pardew - mourinho - Rodgers - pochettino - wenger - van gaal - monk - Howe - pellegrini - Bilic - mark Hughes - tony pulis Get the drift? Pearson isn't better than most premier league managers, nevermind the likes of ranieri and hiddink. Stop being delusional. By the way some go on about him on here he will be offered the man utd job after van gaal. He will be fortunate to pick up a desperate premier league club. Eddie Howe
Dan Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 That wasn't just my logic, it was comparing it to being international managers, managed in European competition/Champions league, won titles (and not just second and third division). Better managers than Pearson in premier league: - pardew - mourinho - Rodgers - pochettino - wenger - van gaal - monk - Howe - pellegrini - Bilic - mark Hughes - tony pulis Get the drift? Pearson isn't better than most premier league managers, nevermind the likes of ranieri and hiddink. Stop being delusional. By the way some go on about him on here he will be offered the man utd job after van gaal. He will be fortunate to pick up a desperate premier league club. Pardew is debatable, he's had more years and he's definitely had worse lows than Pearson. Monk has had one full season managing a very well run and stable side. There's no proof he's better than Pearson. What hasEddie Howe achieved that Pearson hasn't? Bilic is very debatable as well.
Finnaldo Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 He did, and I think that was excellent from him. His downfall wasn't achievements on the pitch though was it? It was dragging the clubs name through the mud throughout the season with his arrogance. So he called a journalist an ostrich, and the aforementioned journalist said it was wrong to be sacked and obviously wasn't a big deal, got into a spout with Lineker, who also criticised the decision to be sacked, so wasn't a big deal, and whilst not a good decision, had a play fight with a player who himself said, guess what, it's not a big deal. That leaves the FOAD incident, in which the fan sounded like he richly deserved it for being a tw@t, and calling a journalist a pr!ck, probably the only one I can see him being held account for. On top of that, pretty much all of them were old news after a week, the only reputation we got was that of an excellent team spirit and a decent side that was unlucky for a large period of the season, Pearson's faults were only briefly mentioned in articles which largely praised his managerial prowess. If you're really that bothered about the PR the club gets from journos looking for a quick scoop and back page coverage that means very little compared to what matters, the on-field results, then I'm slightly shocked.
Dan Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 He only "dragged the club's name through the mud" if you're a bit soft, easily offended and enjoy being taken in by Twitter overreactions. Are we going to appoint managers based on whether they've read fvcking Debrett's or not now or something? Seems like most are more bothered by what people who have no connection to us think of us, rather than ourselves. Too many of our fans have zero pride. Happy to obey the media.
The Doctor Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Ranieri been spotted at Heathrow arrivals apparently, with an OVERNIGHT bag So we all know what that means! Off to Wimbledon? He did, and I think that was excellent from him. His downfall wasn't achievements on the pitch though was it? It was dragging the clubs name through the mud throughout the season with his arrogance. Oh for ****s sake. I'll ask you the same question I've asked everyone else who's made this claim. How is he arrogant?
Fox92 Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 That wasn't just my logic, it was comparing it to being international managers, managed in European competition/Champions league, won titles (and not just second and third division). Better managers than Pearson in premier league: - pardew - mourinho - Rodgers - pochettino - wenger - van gaal - monk - Howe - pellegrini - Bilic - mark Hughes - tony pulis Get the drift? Pearson isn't better than most premier league managers, nevermind the likes of ranieri and hiddink. Stop being delusional. By the way some go on about him on here he will be offered the man utd job after van gaal. He will be fortunate to pick up a desperate premier league club. I'd say 7 out of that list are better than Pearson, and that's including the likes of Wenger and Mourinho. Bilic and Pardew debatable. Howe has achieved nothing more than Pearson. Monk took over a very good squad at a stable club.
Guest LCFC_World Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 The thing that is annoying me about this situation is that no one has an idea about what is going on. There has been no rumors or nothing.
SecretPro Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 The thing that is annoying me about this situation is that no one has an idea about what is going on. There has been no rumors or nothing. This. It's ****ing woeful. Ive spent the last week of work refreshing FT. It's time I got round to doing some actual work but it's just not possible until an appointment is made.
Dan Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 I'd say 7 out of that list are better than Pearson, and that's including the likes of Wenger and Mourinho. Bilic and Pardew debatable. Howe has achieved nothing more than Pearson. Monk took over a very good squad at a stable club. They're just awful comparisons. I wouldn't even say Van Gaal did a better job than Pearson last season considering what he spent. You cannot compare managers of top clubs to managers of Leicester. It's a different ball game. It's possible that Mourinho is better for Chelsea than Pearson and Pearson's better for Leicester than Mourinho - that is exactly why the likes of Hiddink and Ranieri don't fill me with loads of excitement.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 You love twisting words don't you? Yet go all arsey when someone does it to you. No need to get grumpy at Col, Charlie boy! Your over reacting to the situation, and all doom and gloom. I thought it was me who was supposed to be "negative" Actually I'm feeling very positive. Calm down, it will work out fine at the end of the day.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 I'd say 7 out of that list are better than Pearson, and that's including the likes of Wenger and Mourinho. Bilic and Pardew debatable. Howe has achieved nothing more than Pearson. Monk took over a very good squad at a stable club. Put it another way. If an average prem side job came available tomorrow, as you gave fans of that club the choice from that list and added Pearson, he would be about bottom every time. It's only the unhealthy obsession of the pearsonites on here that think the sun shines from his back side. Monk took over a settled side? No. A side in decline having won one of like 11 games and near relegation. Most tipped them to be down there in his first full season too. Lost the likes of Michu, Bony and Flores. Why do we try to play down what other managers do to make Pearson look better?
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 They're just awful comparisons. I wouldn't even say Van Gaal did a better job than Pearson last season considering what he spent. You cannot compare managers of top clubs to managers of Leicester. It's a different ball game. It's possible that Mourinho is better for Chelsea than Pearson and Pearson's better for Leicester than Mourinho - that is exactly why the likes of Hiddink and Ranieri don't fill me with loads of excitement. no you cannot compare managing a small club with little expectation with a manager of a champions league club. The pressure is different. Pearson had 3 seasons to get us promoted. Quite frankly, a top team expected to be at the top and you don't get that time. And that's the only reason he survived being bottom all of last season, because there is little expectation
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Off to Wimbledon? Oh for ****s sake. I'll ask you the same question I've asked everyone else who's made this claim. How is he arrogant? 'What went on with James mcarthur on the touch line' 'I can handle myself, don't you worry about that'
Corky Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 If an average prem side job came available tomorrow, as you gave fans of that club the choice from that list and added Pearson, he would be about bottom every time. Who cares? He was doing a good job for us, not anybody else. If he struggles elsewhere I don't care, it's what he did with us that's important. And, like it or not, he improved us. You probably thought he would fail and can't admit you were wrong. So yeah, play down his seasons by saying he only achieved what was expected. Why did no-one else in the last 15 years manage it then if Pearson is not very good?
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Who cares? He was doing a good job for us, not anybody else. If he struggles elsewhere I don't care, it's what he did with us that's important. And, like it or not, he improved us. You probably thought he would fail and can't admit you were wrong. So yeah, play down his seasons by saying he only achieved what was expected. Why did no-one else in the last 15 years manage it then if Pearson is not very good? I'm not getting into playing down what Pearson has done. He was given a task and delivered it. My point is there are managers out there that can take us to a higher level, like it or not. We may have a lot of loyalty to Pearson on here, but without the tinted specs, he isn't as desirable as you may think he is.
The Doctor Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 'What went on with James mcarthur on the touch line' 'I can handle myself, don't you worry about that' Anything other than one joke with a player? **** sake, Tim "The sun shines out my bellend" Sherwood is arrogant, Sean "We're rubbish because of the board, I'm so great" Dyche is arrogant, Nigel isn't, he had a tendency to push all the credit on to his players.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Anything other than one joke with a player? **** sake, Tim "The sun shines out my bellend" Sherwood is arrogant, Sean "We're rubbish because of the board, I'm so great" Dyche is arrogant, Nigel isn't, he had a tendency to push all the credit on to his players. The media and footballing fans like Sherwood and Dyche though. They hate Pearson?
The Doctor Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 The media and footballing fans like Sherwood and Dyche though. They hate Pearson? Who the **** cares what the media or opposing fans think? How is Pearson arrogant when he shies away from praise regularly and tries to give it to his players. How is a man so reluctant to receiving praise arrogant?
Fox92 Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Put it another way. If an average prem side job came available tomorrow, as you gave fans of that club the choice from that list and added Pearson, he would be about bottom every time. It's only the unhealthy obsession of the pearsonites on here that think the sun shines from his back side. Monk took over a settled side? No. A side in decline having won one of like 11 games and near relegation. Most tipped them to be down there in his first full season too. Lost the likes of Michu, Bony and Flores. Why do we try to play down what other managers do to make Pearson look better? "Pearsonites" fvck me the man guided us to two league championships, two play off campaigns and survival in the top flight. I wouldn't say he'd be bottom of your list. What has Howe achieved over Pearson, for example? Nothing. I'm not trying to make Pearson look better than Monk but Swansea had the squad built up. Previous managers signed the majority - Ladraup signed Bony and Michu for instance - it's not as if Monk had to get rid of a load of deadwood. Sigurdsson was an excellent signing, but a player that was at the club under Rodgers.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 "Pearsonites" fvck me the man guided us to two league championships, two play off campaigns and survival in the top flight. I wouldn't say he'd be bottom of your list. What has Howe achieved over Pearson, for example? Nothing. I'm not trying to make Pearson look better than Monk but Swansea had the squad built up. Previous managers signed the majority - Ladraup signed Bony and Michu for instance - it's not as if Monk had to get rid of a load of deadwood. Sigurdsson was an excellent signing, but a player that was at the club under Rodgers. I'd say Howe would be more desirable to any club than Pearson. Done everything this Pearson did, but quicker, with less money and smaller club and without making himself look like a circus clown. Monk last a lot of laudrups players, and signed his own, montero/gomis for example. And led them to there highest points total ever in the premier league.
Fox92 Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 I'd say Howe would be more desirable to any club than Pearson. Done everything this Pearson did, but quicker, with less money and smaller club and without making himself look like a circus clown. Monk last a lot of laudrups players, and signed his own, montero/gomis for example. And led them to there highest points total ever in the premier league. He has spent a fair bit. Wilson cost £3.5million, didn't he? No disrespect but managing Bournemouth is different to managing the expectation at Leicester City.
biggs Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Pearson was fired presumably because of the image he reflects on the team as seen by the owners and how he defended his son. Can't see how it had anything to do with what he accomplished and how he managed the players on the pitch. It looks to be a moral decision not one based on his ability to make a winner.
oxford blue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Pearson was fired presumably because of the image he reflects on the team as seen by the owners and how he defended his son. Can't see how it had anything to do with what he accomplished and how he managed the players on the pitch. It looks to be a moral decision not one based on his ability to make a winner. I disagree; the incident in Thailand (& subsequent sackings) happened weeks ago. If NP had disagreed with that decision I'm sure he would make his thoughts clear at the time and the sacking would have happened then. The fact the owners have no-one ready to appoint shows to me it was unrelated to that incident.
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