inckley fox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 If there's any truth in this Preki and/or Bradley business I'll do something I've never ever done. I'll close my eyes, cover my ears and pretend there's no such thing as Leicester City until someone nudges me to say Khun Vichai has sodded off and Nigel Pearson's been appointed again. Or pretty much any other faintly competent football manager, for that matter. I doubt the board will miss me, or anyone else in Leicestershire seeing as they clearly think they've got far more Leicester fans in Bangkok than they have here. I'll be looking forward to the next racist orgy (at Leicester City, that is, not my house) if it helps speed things along. I wonder how good the King Power Leicester City Foxes would be for their business if they became known worldwide as the most appallingly incompetent football club owners in English history. I doubt Blackburn Rovers is the best advert for Venky's.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 If there's any truth in this Preki and/or Bradley business I'll do something I've never ever done. I'll close my eyes, cover my ears and pretend there's no such thing as Leicester City until someone nudges me to say Khun Vichai has sodded off and Nigel Pearson's been appointed again. Or pretty much any other faintly competent football manager, for that matter. I doubt the board will miss me, or anyone else in Leicestershire seeing as they clearly think they've got far more Leicester fans in Bangkok than they have here. I'll be looking forward to the next racist orgy (at Leicester City, that is, not my house) if it helps speed things along. I wonder how good the King Power Leicester City Foxes would be for their business if they became known worldwide as the most appallingly incompetent football club owners in English history. I doubt Blackburn Rovers is the best advert for Venky's. If you had supported where you were from, your true hometown club might not have gone under. Don't wait to close your eyes etc, do it now and do us all a favour.
CosbehFox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Hinckley didn't go under due to a lack of support. Poor cheap shot.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Hinckley didn't go under due to a lack of support. Poor cheap shot. He should though remember the importance of investment in clubs before slagging off the owners..
inckley fox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 If you had supported where you were from, your true hometown club might not have gone under. Don't wait to close your eyes etc, do it now and do us all a favour. I am from Leicester, actually. Mum, Dad, all the grandparents, I've lived there nearly all of my life. Inckley is one of the family surnames, and I worked there for a bit, hence the name. But please do go on.
CosbehFox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 He should though remember the importance of investment in clubs before slagging off the owners.. Yeh at Hinckley the owner allowed overpaying at an unsustainable rate. He always had the upper hand though as he owned parts of the ground. A situation which could quite easily happen at Leicester. The owners might sell the club but not the stadium which is wrapped up in a different company.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 I am from Leicester, actually. Mum, Dad, all the grandparents, I've lived there nearly all of my life. Inckley is one of the family surnames, and I worked there for a bit, hence the name. But please do go on. I just thought your couldn't find the 'H' key when making your username..
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 I just thought your couldn't find the 'H' key when making your username.. Like you can't find the apostrophe in I'm. Unless of course your name is Im.
inckley fox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 He should though remember the importance of investment in clubs before slagging off the owners.. Do you know how much money Peter Ridsdale lost at Cardiff, Milan Mandaric at Leicester? A long line of outstandingly wealthy idiots financially sustaining your club is hardly a reason to be exceptionally grateful, not in modern football. You'll find thirty or forty owners in English football alone who have contributed their personal wealth to a football club, including the likes of Cardiff and Hull. Just because they're rich and they blithely burn money in the name of your football club doesn't mean they're a good thing. Thank you for the advice, though. It's quite funny that you've taken my criticism of the owners as such a personal slight. I'll refrain from saying anything else, just in case there's some special personal reason for your loyalty to them - maybe they pulled you from a burning office block or helped you out when stranded on the moors - but it did make me smile.
Mark_w Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 He should though remember the importance of investment in clubs before slagging off the owners.. Literally the only reason anyone backs the owners is because Nigel Pearson got them out of a massive hole of their own making, and now they've ditched him seemingly for a manager in the third tier in the United States of America and you're still bending over backwards to praise them. Didn't you have the audacity to have a go at people for failing to acknowledge Nigel Pearson's failings not that long ago?
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Literally the only reason anyone backs the owners is because Nigel Pearson got them out of a massive hole of their own making, and now they've ditched him seemingly for a manager in the third tier in the United States of America and you're still bending over backwards to praise them. Didn't you have the audacity to have a go at people for failing to acknowledge Nigel Pearson's failings not that long ago? The owners are the ones putting there own money in, and risking millions, not Nigel. They put the facilities there, supported wages for expensive players and backed him in the transfer market. Not to mention they actually recruited him in the first place? And paid hull a fee for him. He didn't get anyone out of a hole, he did his job, and well done to him. Just unfortunately he embarrassed himself and the club while doing I and paid the price. The love for him on here is unhealthy.
ImBlue Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Do you know how much money Peter Ridsdale lost at Cardiff, Milan Mandaric at Leicester? A long line of outstandingly wealthy idiots financially sustaining your club is hardly a reason to be exceptionally grateful, not in modern football. You'll find thirty or forty owners in English football alone who have contributed their personal wealth to a football club, including the likes of Cardiff and Hull. Just because they're rich and they blithely burn money in the name of your football club doesn't mean they're a good thing. Thank you for the advice, though. It's quite funny that you've taken my criticism of the owners as such a personal slight. I'll refrain from saying anything else, just in case there's some special personal reason for your loyalty to them - maybe they pulled you from a burning office block or helped you out when stranded on the moors - but it did make me smile. Not personal at all.. Only banter
inckley fox Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 The owners are the ones putting there own money in, and risking millions, not Nigel. They put the facilities there, supported wages for expensive players and backed him in the transfer market. Not to mention they actually recruited him in the first place? And paid hull a fee for him. He didn't get anyone out of a hole, he did his job, and well done to him. Just unfortunately he embarrassed himself and the club while doing I and paid the price. The love for him on here is unhealthy. Well, they re-recruited him. He left the club shortly after their little meeting with Mandaric and Sousa, while we were still in the FLC play-offs. Like I said, football is littered with examples of people who give a small but weighty slice of their vast wealth to clubs only to display little sign of knowing what to do with it. Frequently the clubs in question flash money about as they sink down the table (as was our case until they re-appointed Pearson), with some fans pointing out that they've taken the club backwards and others whooping with joy that so much money is being spent, regardless of how it's spent or what's gained from spending it. There's no reason for Cardiff fans to be grateful to Ridsdale - who lost tens of millions at the club - or, particularly, to Tan. Nor should Hull fans or Blackburn fans be too grateful for their saviours, regardless of how much money they have wasted. But on the back of the last decade-and-a-half, I'd have thought Leicester fans - above all others - should be able to avoid confusing heavy spending with effective club management. And our concern, really, should be with effective club management. Why should we care, after all, how much money our squad has taken to assemble? The league position and the trophy cabinet always take precedence. For me at least!
Dan Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 No need to get grumpy at Col, Charlie boy! Your over reacting to the situation, and all doom and gloom. I thought it was me who was supposed to be "negative" Actually I'm feeling very positive. Calm down, it will work out fine at the end of the day. I'm sure you'd be saying that if I'd twisted his words. Yes it is you who is negative. You're the one who goes against the grain for the sake of it on here when things are going well. One fluke in your favour doesn't change your true colours.
Dan Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 no you cannot compare managing a small club with little expectation with a manager of a champions league club. The pressure is different. Pearson had 3 seasons to get us promoted. Quite frankly, a top team expected to be at the top and you don't get that time. And that's the only reason he survived being bottom all of last season, because there is little expectation Pearson took us forward every single year he was here. Every one without fail. I'll concede he was lucky to still have his job by around mid-March time, but there you go. Maybe they saw no viable alternative (a bit like now by the looks of things).
The Railway Man Posted 8 July 2015 Posted 8 July 2015 Pearson took us forward every single year he was here. Every one without fail. I'll concede he was lucky to still have his job by around mid-March time, but there you go. Maybe they saw no viable alternative (a bit like now by the looks of things). They didn't, if they had they would probably have got rid and we'd be the Championship now. The only good decisions these morons make are clearly by total fluke.
ImBlue Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 Pearson took us forward every single year he was here. Every one without fail. I'll concede he was lucky to still have his job by around mid-March time, but there you go. Maybe they saw no viable alternative (a bit like now by the looks of things). He did, but my point about top managers is that while Pearson got time with that 17 game streak in the championship, and the 11 games in the premier league, top managers just get sacked. The further you go up, the more cut throat it becomes. So to discard a managers that have managed at the top level over being sacked isn't really fair.
thybluefox Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 I bet Nigel's having a right good old chuckle to himself this evening.
shailen Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 Please no one try to soften the blow by questioning what NP has achieved. Look where we were under Holloway to where we are now. We have even managed to get a lcfc player an England cap. For me he's our best ever manager over the last 30 years or so because he has transformed the club from top to bottom in an era whereby it's harder to do so. And I'm pretty sure hed have continued to do so. Shame that he's been sacked.
ImBlue Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 I bet Nigel's having a right good old chuckle to himself this evening. Why? He's unemployed, I'm sure he would rather be working.
thybluefox Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 Why? He's unemployed, I'm sure he would rather be working. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be taking some enjoyment out of current events.
Webbo Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 Well, they re-recruited him. He left the club shortly after their little meeting with Mandaric and Sousa, while we were still in the FLC play-offs. Like I said, football is littered with examples of people who give a small but weighty slice of their vast wealth to clubs only to display little sign of knowing what to do with it. Frequently the clubs in question flash money about as they sink down the table (as was our case until they re-appointed Pearson), with some fans pointing out that they've taken the club backwards and others whooping with joy that so much money is being spent, regardless of how it's spent or what's gained from spending it. There's no reason for Cardiff fans to be grateful to Ridsdale - who lost tens of millions at the club - or, particularly, to Tan. Nor should Hull fans or Blackburn fans be too grateful for their saviours, regardless of how much money they have wasted. But on the back of the last decade-and-a-half, I'd have thought Leicester fans - above all others - should be able to avoid confusing heavy spending with effective club management. And our concern, really, should be with effective club management. Why should we care, after all, how much money our squad has taken to assemble? The league position and the trophy cabinet always take precedence. For me at least! Hull, a team that's always been a lower league club until recently had 2 years in the premier league and a cup final. I think you're being a little hard on the owners there.
MC Prussian Posted 9 July 2015 Posted 9 July 2015 That wasn't just my logic, it was comparing it to being international managers, managed in European competition/Champions league, won titles (and not just second and third division). Better managers than Pearson in premier league: - pardew - mourinho - Rodgers - pochettino - wenger - van gaal - monk - Howe - pellegrini - Bilic - mark Hughes - tony pulis Get the drift? Pearson isn't better than most premier league managers, nevermind the likes of ranieri and hiddink. Stop being delusional. By the way some go on about him on here he will be offered the man utd job after van gaal. He will be fortunate to pick up a desperate premier league club. Better managers than Pearson? Yeah, right. Most of those names have years of PL experience under their belt (some ten, fifteen years older than Pearson), others have somewhat managed to stay in the game for whatever reason due to lucky circumstances, helping top division clubs to survive. Which of these managers has really constantly managed to push for a Europa place or managed a team that was competitive over a longer period of time? Only a handful and even there are a few lucky ones who were able to take over a team filled with (exceptional) talent, like Pochettino or Pellegrini. Bilic has done nothing of note on a club level ever since his exploits with the Croatian national team, a job hardly comparable to managing a PL team (or any club for that matter). What has Tony Pulis done other than being mediocre? Titles, cup wins - where are they? Even his Europa League stint was down to reaching a cup final only. The recipe here is a board smart enough giving managers time by being patient. Right now, it appears as if long-term planning has been sacrificed for the desire of short-term success. I just have to at your suggestion of Howe.
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