foxes21 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 What we've done is something that other clubs have been searchinng for for years. Man Utd found it under Ferguson all those years ago. That something is the perfect formula for success. Owners, backroom staff, management, playing staff. Now that we've found that formula, all we need to do, is enhance and repeat. The cost is meaningless because of the wealth of the owners and the tv and prize money we'll now get. Deeney enhances the formula so £30m buys you that enhancement. We need to stop looking at the name of a player, rather the skill set he brings. Deeney is Okazaki but with greater physical attributes. Its as simple as that. Just as Keane is a younger Morgan and Dunk is a younger Huth. The formula stays the same, you just look for the same skills to match the formula and hopefully enhance them with additional attributes or a younger age. All this talk of £30m being too much for Deeney is now irrelevant. He upgrades the team. Case closed. Let Arsenal or whoever buy someone else for £10m that people would see as better business. They'll still ultimately fail as their overall model is wrong whereas ours is right. We'll win something else next year and this talk of overspending will be long forgotten. great post !
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 We're actually quite keen on keeping our captain. What will happen on Deeney Day? Will you be crying instead of celebrating an ultimately pointless goal against the team he has just joined?
dbtcity Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 What we've done is something that other clubs have been searchinng for for years. Man Utd found it under Ferguson all those years ago. That something is the perfect formula for success. Owners, backroom staff, management, playing staff. Now that we've found that formula, all we need to do, is enhance and repeat. The cost is meaningless because of the wealth of the owners and the tv and prize money we'll now get. Deeney enhances the formula so £30m buys you that enhancement. We need to stop looking at the name of a player, rather the skill set he brings. Deeney is Okazaki but with greater physical attributes. Its as simple as that. Just as Keane is a younger Morgan and Dunk is a younger Huth. The formula stays the same, you just look for the same skills to match the formula and hopefully enhance them with additional attributes or a younger age. All this talk of £30m being too much for Deeney is now irrelevant. He upgrades the team. Case closed. Let Arsenal or whoever buy someone else for £10m that people would see as better business. They'll still ultimately fail as their overall model is wrong whereas ours is right. We'll win something else next year and this talk of overspending will be long forgotten. Great post unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears though, most won't see past the price and will prefer a pretty import over a tried and trusted in this league player! 30m is massively ott but unfortunately u will have to pay over the odds for any prem teams top players
Dames Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 We're actually quite keen on keeping our captain. Fans are yes but at board level they might be very tempted to cash in especially for that amount of money. Perhaps you could list the internationals and consistent performers at a very high level (Premier League Winners, World cup winners/runners up etc) that you would like us to buy, would come to us and cost $30M or less? I was talking about in regards to that list where it was pointed out that they are worth 30 million + and why. We aren't going to sign any players of that standard realistically but it doesn't mean that we should start throwing 30 million at above average Premier League players. At least Andy Carroll will be worth over £30m again. Absolute madness.
Daz93 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 What we've done is something that other clubs have been searchinng for for years. Man Utd found it under Ferguson all those years ago. That something is the perfect formula for success. Owners, backroom staff, management, playing staff. Now that we've found that formula, all we need to do, is enhance and repeat. The cost is meaningless because of the wealth of the owners and the tv and prize money we'll now get. Deeney enhances the formula so £30m buys you that enhancement. We need to stop looking at the name of a player, rather the skill set he brings. Deeney is Okazaki but with greater physical attributes. Its as simple as that. Just as Keane is a younger Morgan and Dunk is a younger Huth. The formula stays the same, you just look for the same skills to match the formula and hopefully enhance them with additional attributes or a younger age. All this talk of £30m being too much for Deeney is now irrelevant. He upgrades the team. Case closed. Let Arsenal or whoever buy someone else for £10m that people would see as better business. They'll still ultimately fail as their overall model is wrong whereas ours is right. We'll win something else next year and this talk of overspending will be long forgotten. The thread should just be closed at this point.
Fox_in_DCFC land Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 What we've done is something that other clubs have been searchinng for for years. Man Utd found it under Ferguson all those years ago. That something is the perfect formula for success. Owners, backroom staff, management, playing staff. Now that we've found that formula, all we need to do, is enhance and repeat. The cost is meaningless because of the wealth of the owners and the tv and prize money we'll now get. Deeney enhances the formula so £30m buys you that enhancement. We need to stop looking at the name of a player, rather the skill set he brings. Deeney is Okazaki but with greater physical attributes. Its as simple as that. Just as Keane is a younger Morgan and Dunk is a younger Huth. The formula stays the same, you just look for the same skills to match the formula and hopefully enhance them with additional attributes or a younger age. All this talk of £30m being too much for Deeney is now irrelevant. He upgrades the team. Case closed. Let Arsenal or whoever buy someone else for £10m that people would see as better business. They'll still ultimately fail as their overall model is wrong whereas ours is right. We'll win something else next year and this talk of overspending will be long forgotten. Well put! We are still the Leicester of old but with tons £££! £30m spent is not just for a proven goal scorer but for a player that works his socks, demonstrates leadership and passion for the game, loyalty to his club. We're still buying the same but just paying Premier League Champions' rates. Don't expect any of this quality to come at bargain basement rates!
aefevans Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 What will happen on Deeney Day? Will you be crying instead of celebrating an ultimately pointless goal against the team he has just joined? Get you Fans are yes but at board level they might be very tempted to cash in especially for that amount of money. There is every possibility that the board could cash-in, but it would certainly be through gritted-teeth. It's not the money we need - it's the player himself, or at least someone with his leadership, drive, level-headedness, and most importantly, commitment to the club. You can't just recruit that sort of thing.
Countryfox Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 It's not the money we need - it's the player himself, or at least someone with his leadership, drive, level-headedness, and most importantly, commitment to the club. You can't just recruit that sort of thing. Sounds good ... we'll have him !
weller54 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 After the meeting today the Watford board have reiterated that Deeney is not for sale... Wonder what the player thinks?
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 After the meeting today the Watford board have reiterated that Deeney is not for sale... Wonder what the player thinks? They were never going to say anything different. They cannot lose favour with the fans and sanction the move as the aftermath from the support would really dent their relationship. This way, the player and only the player can appear to be the one to push the move through. This really makes it more straightforward. If he now asks to leave, everything will happen much more quickly.
foxes21 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 in all honesty if watford keep deeney i can see them surprising a few people this season. walter mazzarri is a very good, underrated manager. his reputation hasn't been helped due to the pressure of managing big clubs like inter.
aefevans Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 in all honesty if watford keep deeney i can see them surprising a few people this season. walter mazzarri is a very good, underrated manager. his reputation hasn't been helped due to the pressure of managing big clubs like inter. To be honest, it's very difficult to be successful at Inter right now, due to the environment. There's a very high expectation to replicate Mourinho's treble. I wouldn't look too far into his Inter record - which wasn't actually all that bad.
sylofox Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 We're actually quite keen on keeping our captain.Just been told this deal is on the line just need Troy to say yes.Also maybe cash plus player.
aefevans Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Just been told this deal is on the line just need Troy to say yes. Also maybe cash plus player. Depends which player. I'm hearing a few conflicting reports, so am keeping tabs on everything right now.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Just been told this deal is on the line just need Troy to say yes. Also maybe cash plus player. Ulloa?
weller54 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Knowing Watford they'll want Kante, Mahrez plus £10m!!!
aefevans Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Knowing Watford they'll want Kante, Mahrez plus £10m!!! Yep, that'll do.
MGLCFC Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Depends which player. I'm hearing a few conflicting reports, so am keeping tabs on everything right now. Benny?
foxes21 Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Just been told this deal is on the line just need Troy to say yes. Also maybe cash plus player. maybe Inler, Watfords manager managed him at Napoli
aefevans Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 Benny? Hill! ...and the Jets. maybe Inler, Watfords manager managed him at Napoli I would actually be pretty happy with this. He's captained the Swiss team (as has Behrami, who we already have). Could work out nicely. All conjecture on my part, mind.
Finnegan Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 When is Deeney day? Is the prem still going then? Could we realistically sign him and see him score to relegate them on Deeney day? Because you know Stringer would spuff himself screaming DEENEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY.
Max Power Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 We value Inler at £29m so £2m + Inler should seal the deal thanks lads
sylofox Posted 21 June 2016 Posted 21 June 2016 maybe Inler, Watfords manager managed him at Napoli Really not sure Ulloa is a good shout too. Comes from the Chelsea fan that told me we was after an under 21. We then signed the sultan nephew. Yes I did post it here. Seems if deeny don't happen we are talking to Chelsea but he won't say who yet.
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