lgfualol Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I think May will win and probably would **** up the least. Always thought she was an evil witch but actually seems like the best option.
lifted*fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 I think May will win and probably would **** up the least. Always thought she was an evil witch but actually seems like the best option. She's probably the best of a bad bunch but really they're all just turds that can't be polished. May is incensed on turning the UK into a nanny state - a CCTV-ridden, internet-tracking, information gathering haven. She will want to know when you take a shit, what colour it was and how much it weighed. She'll tell you it's because it'll help them catch the terrorists but it's really just trying to control the people. She's also got very backwards views on the 'war on drugs' - that it's still a war worth fighting as opposed to a big waste of time / money. She's a dangerous lady, but then Gove is a dangerous man. People will be looking back fondly on the Cameron days in a few years, without a doubt.
Spiritwalker Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 May looks like a baddie out of a Disney film, she has a face that could curdle milk. That said, like it or not we now need someone to negotiate well during our Brexit and I think she could be the best bet.
AKCJ Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 She's probably the best of a bad bunch but really they're all just turds that can't be polished. May is incensed on turning the UK into a nanny state - a CCTV-ridden, internet-tracking, information gathering haven. She will want to know when you take a shit, what colour it was and how much it weighed. She'll tell you it's because it'll help them catch the terrorists but it's really just trying to control the people. She's also got very backwards views on the 'war on drugs' - that it's still a war worth fighting as opposed to a big waste of time / money. She's a dangerous lady, but then Gove is a dangerous man. People will be looking back fondly on the Cameron days in a few years, without a doubt. If you don't think that a "war on drugs" is a good thing then you've either not seen how it affects families and crime rates or it's YOU with the "very backwards views".
lifted*fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 If you don't think that a "war on drugs" is a good thing then you've either not seen how it affects families and crime rates or it's YOU with the "very backwards views". I'm not even going to get into it with you; you clearly don't understand the nuances of the 'war on drugs' and why it's a failed model that more forward-thinking governments around the world are starting to write-off as they try new methods.
inckley fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 The advantage of May from the Tories' perspective might be that, even as the most reluctant of Remainers, she could reach out to more of the public than Gove. She may well seal a passable deal with the EU and face an electorate which - smarting from the hangover of Brexit and dissatisfied with the terms of the settlement - would have roundly turned on Gove, but is willing to give May a little longer. If the country's in a mess of sorts then the wider public will accept it as a mess which was more of Johnson's and Gove's making than Theresa May's. As for Gove, it's possible but not guaranteed that he'll have the Tory press behind him. In spite of this, he's going to have to shake off all of the damage caused to his reputation by stabbing a Prime Minister and the most popular politician (once upon a time, at least) in the country in the back. Johnson is also the most popular politician, supposedly, in the wider Tory party, so Gove may need to secure his endorsement if he intends to win. I've heard that he has some 'big hitters' behind him - if Osborne and, somehow or other, Johnson can end up among them, it could swing it for him. And yes, like others, I'm sure as PM he'd end up blamed for plunging the country into chaos and deeper chaos, regardless of how much more 'organised' he is than Johnson. He could cost the Tories dearly for a long time to come if Labour sorts itself out, or even if a breakaway block joins forces with the Liberals and lends traction to their 'stay in the EU at all costs' project. If May takes over, they might just get away with it.
Dr The Singh Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Teresa May, hopefully will start wearing low cut tops again, I enjoy politics more when she does that
GingerrrFox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Still feel that out of the lot of the MPs linked with the top job, Boris would have been the best for this current moment in time. All of those now running look unhinged and untrustworthy.
Jon the Hat Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Crabb looks a good bet at around 20/1. Worth a fiver. Needs to come out of his shell, so to speak, but he's fresh and has no major baggage that i'm aware of. Crabb by the looks of it is a bit too Christian nutter in his views, at least from my atheist perspective. Not keen on people who think their religion should have anything at all to do with their politics. Voted against same sex marriage? Connected with "curing gays?" Not for me thanks. If nothing else it marks him out as a deluded fool.
Jon the Hat Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Still feel that out of the lot of the MPs linked with the top job, Boris would have been the best for this current moment in time. All of those now running look unhinged and untrustworthy. Boris has been well and truly ****ed over, and it sounds like it was planned. Doesn't make Gove look like the nice guy does it? I can give some credence to the idea that Boris didn't really expect to win, and had essentially no idea what to say this week, and that made some of his / Gove's backers rethink what Boris outside of campaign mode really looked like. To be honest, he has done in his own career here - there is only so long you can play the fool - it wont get you the top job.
Guest Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 But how can a Remain voter lead the leave parliament. I can imagine what MattP and others would say if this was labour.
GingerrrFox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Boris has been well and truly ****ed over, and it sounds like it was planned. Doesn't make Gove look like the nice guy does it? I can give some credence to the idea that Boris didn't really expect to win, and had essentially no idea what to say this week, and that made some of his / Gove's backers rethink what Boris outside of campaign mode really looked like. To be honest, he has done in his own career here - there is only so long you can play the fool - it wont get you the top job. I agree. He's essentially had the rug pulled from under his feet. I say I felt Boris was the right man for this current moment in time as I feel the country needs a figure that people can relate to and warm to, now more than ever. All of those running for the Conservative leadership don't strike you as "good people", I don't think anybody hand on heart can say Boris strikes them as a bad person. He had the ability to appeal to all walks of society and this is something that is needed in this fragile time in British politics. I genuinely feel the Conservative party have missed a golden opportunity in this situation with the Labour party appearing ready to sink. Boris would have appealed to voters.
Spiritwalker Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Still feel that out of the lot of the MPs linked with the top job, Boris would have been the best for this current moment in time. All of those now running look unhinged and untrustworthy. Don't you think the Europeans would have had his pants down during negotiations?
johnny the fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Teresa May, hopefully will start wearing low cut tops again, I enjoy politics more when she does that grab a granny night at the co op club nuneaton would be right up your street..
Dr The Singh Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 grab a granny night at the co op club nuneaton would be right up your street..What night would that be, and will Teresa be there??
johnny the fox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 What night would that be, and will Teresa be there?? think she is slightly too old for it.... mind you ...you can hear the zimmer frames knocking out back in the car park..
Izzy Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Crabb by the looks of it is a bit too Christian nutter in his views, at least from my atheist perspective. Not keen on people who think their religion should have anything at all to do with their politics. Voted against same sex marriage? Connected with "curing gays?" Not for me thanks. If nothing else it marks him out as a deluded fool. Yeah, but he'd get on great with with Donald Trump. Gotta think about the 'special relationship' and all that
Stadt Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Crabb by the looks of it is a bit too Christian nutter in his views, at least from my atheist perspective. Not keen on people who think their religion should have anything at all to do with their politics. Voted against same sex marriage? Connected with "curing gays?" Not for me thanks. If nothing else it marks him out as a deluded fool. Fox voted against Gay marriage as well, no surprise as he's a Christian This is unfair on christians actually but I really don't like politicians to be influenced by religion
Izzy Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Cameron's a practicing Christian too isn't he? Didn't do badly for himself....
enmac Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 What an absolute shower! I'd rather have Roy Hodgson as PM! Finally, things are looking up for JC. Sent from my BNTV600 using Tapatalk
Jon the Hat Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Cameron's a practicing Christian too isn't he? Didn't do badly for himself.... One who pushed through the equal marriage bill, no problem with that. Not that Cameron hasn't turned out to be a massive disappointment.
GaelicFox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 LOL "Fatally stabbed by the bespectacled dwarf he used to call his ally, Michael Gove" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3668695/KATIE-HOPKINS-Surely-British-people-just-voted-future-deserve-better-bunch-stabbing-political-pygmies.html
GingerrrFox Posted 30 June 2016 Posted 30 June 2016 Seen this posted on Boris's self-removal from the Leadership race. Do we think it's likely that the man has the foresight for this? If anyone commenting negatively on here had actually read the history books (as Boris clearly has), or had the slightest incling of strategy (again, as Boris clearly has) you would see what has happened here today. In the space of one week, Boris has been instrumental in securing British independence from the EU. As a result, he has indirectly thrown the Labour party into total disarray. Additionally, he has revealed his "ally", Gove, to be a treacherous backstabber and left May to pick up Cameron's poisoned chalice. This was a masterpiece in political chess. As the Remainiacs did during the referendum, the Conservative establishment have monumentally underestimated Boris. The BBC have called this an undignified withdrawal from the leadership race - it is Gove, May et al who are undignified, scrabbling for power like hyenas over a carcass. No doubt, Boris will be back to lead the Conservatives, once the chaff have been blown away. For today, he just dropped the mic.
ozleicester Posted 1 July 2016 Posted 1 July 2016 What have you people done to my country?... I leave you alone for 5 minutes...
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