davieG Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Quote Plans designed to reduce "intolerable behaviour" by players and managers in English football have been announced. In a statement, the Premier League, English Football League and Football Association said poor conduct has reached "unacceptable levels". Starting this season, red cards will be issued to players who confront match officials and use offensive language or make gestures towards them. Behaviour within the technical areas will also be more rigorously enforced. Not one player has been sent off in the Premier League for insulting or abusive language towards a match official in the last five seasons. But Premier League chairman Richard Scudamore said there has been concern "for some time" that players have been "overstepping the mark". "It is our collective position that these types of behaviour should no longer be tolerated," he added. "Things happen in the heat of the moment during fast and highly competitive football. We still want to see the passion fans enjoy and demand, but players and managers have to be aware there are lines that should not be crossed." Offences which could earn players a yellow card Visibly disrespectful behaviour to any match official; An aggressive response to decisions; Confronting an official face to face; Running towards an official to contest a decision; Offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures towards match officials; Physical contact with any match official in a non-aggressive manner; A yellow card for at least one player when two or more from a team surround a match official. New red card offences If a player confronts match officials and uses offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures towards them; Physical contact with match officials in an aggressive or confrontational manner. Reaction to the new guidelines Match of the Day presenter Gary Lineker BBC commentator Guy Mowbray Cue arguments on what should be / shouldn't be yellow/red cards. Oh well another thing for fans and pundits to talk about rather than the actual football.
davieG Posted 20 July 2016 Author Posted 20 July 2016 Hope they have a list of words that are considered offensive and where to draw the line, not that i disagree with the principal but we all know there will be a wide interpretation of it. Fool Idiot Blind Twat Shit **** ****
leicsmac Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 About time. Should mic the refs up and instigate retrospective bans for any abusive language directed towards officials that isn't caught in the match itself, too. Hearing the conversations ala rugby would be interesting.
RobHawk Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 I agree with this completely - however, the FA need to work to make referrees more accountable for their decisions as well. Mic them up - It works brilliantly in Rugby, even when they get decisions wrong!
Beliall Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 mainly good. but most players tell the linesman to **** off when they get called offside or a throw is given to the other team, i hope they wont get sent off for spur of the moment reactions. john moss would have a field day
RobHawk Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 2 minutes ago, Beliall said: mainly good. but most players tell the linesman to **** off when they get called offside or a throw is given to the other team, i hope they wont get sent off for spur of the moment reactions. john moss would have a field day To be fair its pretty disgraceful the way players talk to officials. You can call it spur of the moment but its completely disrespectful whether the official is right or wrong! They need to clamp down on it properly in my opinion!
Berlinfox Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 7 minutes ago, Beliall said: mainly good. but most players tell the linesman to **** off when they get called offside or a throw is given to the other team, i hope they wont get sent off for spur of the moment reactions. john moss would have a field day I know football players have a reputation for being a bit dim, but surely they can't be so stupid that they will to fail to learn that specific behaviour will have a specific consequence. Even a dog can learn that. The rules just need to be applied consistently.
davieG Posted 20 July 2016 Author Posted 20 July 2016 Typically on Sky they show Drinky having a go at the ref when reporting this, our behaviour last season was spot on until the Vardy incident.
davieG Posted 20 July 2016 Author Posted 20 July 2016 10 minutes ago, Berlinfox said: I know football players have a reputation for being a bit dim, but surely they can't be so stupid that they will to fail to learn that specific behaviour will have a specific consequence. Even a dog can learn that. The rules just need to be applied consistently. But they wont be and what level of aggressive is unacceptable ever ref will have different interpretation. Cue lots of jobs for professional lip readers. I lip read a lot and especially on the TV there's very few games where at least one player doesn't use an expletive from being a casual throwaway 'oh **** of' to in your face '**** off' and every shade in between.
LAprice_ Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Reminds me of Charlton away a few years back when Matty James received a second yellow for "running aggressively" towards the referee.
stevelcfc Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 1 hour ago, LAprice_ said: Reminds me of Charlton away a few years back when Matty James received a second yellow for "running aggressively" towards the referee. Nige had an absolute fit over it as well if I recall.
pSinatra Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Arsenal won't like this idea .......but they'll get away with it anyway
jammie82uk Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Come on keep up davie already being discussed here
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 2 hours ago, RobHawk said: I agree with this completely - however, the FA need to work to make referrees more accountable for their decisions as well. Mic them up - It works brilliantly in Rugby, even when they get decisions wrong! This is the right thing to do, and does work very well in Rugby.
AyewJoking Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Looking forward to some 5-aside matches this season!!
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 All very well in principle but when refs give performances such as the one Moss gave against West Ham in a game of that magnitude then reactions like the ones now listed as offences are perfectly understandable. Rather than clamping down on people's reactions in an emotional game, maybe they should clamp down on awful refereeing first.
Guest ttfn Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 2 hours ago, sphericalfox said: Let's hope Musa finds form quickly. Vardy gets closer to Moss every time I see that picture
Dan Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 Good in theory. In reality I'd imagine it won't be applied properly.
Jattdogg Posted 20 July 2016 Posted 20 July 2016 This wont be enforced perfectly all the time which i can see some getting sent off and others not. Im fine with the changes buttttt the 4th official shud have discretion to confirm sending offs are warranted annddd that noncalls which are missed or not given are indeed made so no unfair advantage is given. Now with that said wat about the classic yellow or red card gesturing from players trying to influence a ref. That shud be an instant yellow.
TiffToff88 Posted 21 July 2016 Posted 21 July 2016 For me, the simple option to deal with this would be to implement a Rugby Union style ruling where only the team captain can communicate with the referee. this would solve a lot of the problems.
davieG Posted 21 July 2016 Author Posted 21 July 2016 47 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said: For me, the simple option to deal with this would be to implement a Rugby Union style ruling where only the team captain can communicate with the referee. this would solve a lot of the problems. Didn't they have that for a short time like the moving freekicks forward when obstructed. I think this abuse thing should be linked with a sin bin allowing players to cool off not yellow/red cards.
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