Mendy is our best hope

[weller54]

49 minutes ago, RastaDog said:

And he couldn't shoot for toffee. Best off rid imho.  (Btw, I'm not taking the piss MP, I'm agreeing with you)

 

I do wish folk would stop this 'replacement for Kante' stuff. Only Kante is Kante - we won't find another. Move on, Our 'dilemma' is not to replace him but to find a way of playing that works for us again.

 

Tbf, I do think the club did try to find a midfield signing (and probably someone that didn't get a mention too) - it's just that none of them came off for us. Maybe we'll have to reshape, maybe we'll make do until Jan, but either way we'll sort something out. Claudio will suss it. 

We could very well be out of the CL and in a relegation dog fight come January!.. Can't see the likes of Adrien Silva wanting to join us then? 

[Nick]

What's Mendy's injury situation?

[RastaDog]

16 minutes ago, weller54 said:

We could very well be out of the CL and in a relegation dog fight come January!..

We could well be, yes. You deal with things as they happen. We know what our squad is until then so it's a matter of getting on with what we have rather than bemoaning what we don't. 

[Nick]

17 minutes ago, weller54 said:

We could very well be out of the CL and in a relegation dog fight come January!.. Can't see the likes of Adrien Silva wanting to join us then? 

 

Adrien Silva's wage would double and he already said he wants to come.

 

You don't even sound like a glass half empty kinda guy, more like a guy rolling on smashed glass on the floor!

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, Monsell1976 said:

Amartey was like a rabbit in headlights, he's a young kid, who is gaining experience in English football.

I should imagine anfield being intimidating for a young lad, he will learn to deal with the big game, but your right, a bit early to right him off.

I think he will do well this season, he might be inconsistent early on, but we must remember that's what young players do.

The problem with this mate is that we are the current Champions of England. Should we really be fielding a player who was 'like a rabbit caught in headlights', away at Anfield? The opposite argument could be true...the experience could have scarred him and he'll pretty surely now be dropped.

I'm all for developing our younger players but it must be done in the right way and in the right games. See Ferguson for details.

We have left ourselves short in the central mid area, unless Mendy proves to be very good.

[Manwell Pablo]

Amartey was the second coming and the savior of our midfield after the Swansea game never mind a developing talent.  

[Nick]

2 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Amartey was the second coming and the savior of our midfield after the Swansea game never mind a developing talent.  

It's like we spent nearly two decades learning about disappointment, hope and how to cope with being a football supporter of LCFC and then had a season of dreams winning week in week out and now we have forgotten everything. If a player has a bad game we write them off - we've taken football heroin and now we are going to be in recovery for the rest of our lives.

[Guest]

4-3-1-2 is our only chance

 

Simpson Huth Wes Fuchs

Amarty Drinkwater Mendy/Musa

              Mahrez

        Slimani Vardy

[foxy boxing]

mendy is still not the finished article and is still learning while amartey has more of a pysical presence, we perhaps should have gone for a more experienced midfielder but these two will learn and adapt. if mendy is our best hope where does that leave us?

[BenTheFox]

1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Amartey was the second coming and the savior of our midfield after the Swansea game never mind a developing talent.  

In fairness though a few of us were saying that shouldn't just be pinning all of our hopes on him. I said to my mate during the Swansea game that my only concern with Amartey's performance is that it could result in us not going out and signing another midfielder, which was needed even if Amartey carried on in great form. 

[Guest Col city fan]

I said straight after the Swansea game that Amartey played well...he did. BUT that Swansea was the perfect game to introduce him. We had the bulk of possession, he wasn't put under too much pressure.

I also said...lets see him and how he does when we ARE put under pressure. And Liverpool certainly did that.

I feel Ranieri got his selection wrong for this one. As soon as they got their first goal, I'd have considered taking Amartey off. He was being ripped to shreds and had no clue what to do about it. Was King on the bench? If so, I'd have got him on sooner rather than later. King I don't think is the long term answer but he'd have had the experience to calm things down. Probably for just about the first time since he became manager, I think Don Claudio didn't sort out what was obvious in this game.

 

[Nick]

2 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I said straight after the Swansea game that Amartey played well...he did. BUT that Swansea was the perfect game to introduce him. We had the bulk of possession, he wasn't put under too much pressure.

I also said...lets see him and how he does when we ARE put under pressure. And Liverpool certainly did that.

I feel Ranieri got his selection wrong for this one. As soon as they got their first goal, I'd have considered taking Amartey off. He was being ripped to shreds and had no clue what to do about it. Was King on the bench? If so, I'd have got him on sooner rather than later. King I don't think is the long term answer but he'd have had the experience to calm things down. Probably for just about the first time since he became manager, I think Don Claudio didn't sort out what was obvious in this game.

 

 

Col in 'I told you so' shocker

[Guest Col city fan]

32 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

 

Col in 'I told you so' shocker

Now now Nick...I did honest...

And it really was obvious mate. 

[benpicko]

We should have signed Gueye really

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

3 hours ago, Monsell1976 said:

Amartey was like a rabbit in headlights, he's a young kid, who is gaining experience in English football.

I should imagine anfield being intimidating for a young lad, he will learn to deal with the big game, but your right, a bit early to right him off.

I think he will do well this season, he might be inconsistent early on, but we must remember that's what young players do.

 

He had a better game than Drinkwater, who just gave it away the whole time. Amartey was man of the match against Swansea so lets not write him off after one game.....

 

Also all this we should have signed Gueye, based on what? a performance against a poor sunderland team playing in a 3 man midfield? He was good yes, but then so was Amartey against Swansea, and Mendy is meant to be a better player too but clearly isn't fit.

[Thracian]

13 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Amartey is too young to say what he is and what we can and cannot do.

To all of you coming out with what our new players are capable of.

DD/Morgan/Simpson/Vardy etc you have all been wrong on their capabilities..L E A R N from it.!!

DD, would of been pushed out of it, if management were as poor as the pundits on this forum,

Vardy and Morgan, wouldnt of started last season.

 

Amartey, Musa, Mendy and soon to carry our badge Slimani, it will take 4-5 months before we can

Judge their worth to the team, whether they show pure magic or sheer dross, even a pik n mix of form

And skills.

Yes like the topic insinuates, we need not just Mendy and the other 3 but all the squad to help quell the

obvious nervous stress eminating from this forum.

 

These 4 need now our support and importantly our patience. We need Amartey ,Chilwell Hernandez, Gray to

Come out Showing some positive form, they are the natural replacements.

Then Musa, Mendy and Slimani, by Middle of October should be Showing why we invested in them.

BUT they must be shown patience and supp o rt from the terraces,Show them the fairness from our terraces and within this forum.

 

Of course, there is nothing wrong in expressing the failings or positives from the individual match days, even expressing your opinions on what in your opinions where we could improve.

Its what a forum is about...There is however no logic in jizzing the individuals before they have

even had some type of a decent run in the team. I deny anyones right of  opinion before any of

Our players have had a chance to show their bad, ugly, positive, brilliant, pathetic, fantastic side

in a long stretch of games..Look at Kante,  this time last year he was too small and weak(according to some)

 Look now at  Sterling, young and now slowly starting to prove to us his potential, plus the Questions we had on albrighton and Mahrez.

Yes Mahrez could be starting this season on Slow  and Low  burner, like kane last year.

 

I reckon all of us the posos the neggies and watencees, are all aprehensiveon how its

all Gonna pan out, worried that we might implode , anxious that our critics will have a field day..

But and again but, after picking up and munching  the title by 10pts,

Let us our own fans, we the foxes after our history, should hang back

more so now on, imediate kneejerk negatives on All the Newbies,

Whether from within or our new summer buys.

Lets enjoy 1st being champions for awhile before weeling the axes

of negative attitudes .

Dont forget gnawing at many abone on any player is totally worthless, we cant change it

We have what we have, So we want, we need, The  permatations and individuals to click and work...........give it a chance..

 

 

You talk about this player and that coming through but I don't see it happening. I don't see pre-season as having been particularly beneficial either. Bit-part appearances between lots of travelling which, in itself, might have been a factor in all the injuries we've been getting is not ideal, especially when many first teamers were involved in the Euros. 

 

Big clubs are far more used to the kind of pre-season we've had and I do understand the marketing benefits. But I don't see it being the fastest way to develop players.

 

Saturday offered an opportunity for at least one of either Gray or Chilwell to get half-an-hour or so. But there's so many people needing match-time now you can't please everyone.     

 

Trouble is, by the time they do play, they'll be less than  their sharpest when, really, all our players should be close to their best. Instead there's no signs we're anywhere near. And Mendy as much,or more, than anyone else. 

 

    

[okie fox]

Drinkwater would be wasted as a defensive midfielder (e.g., when he played base of the diamond for England).  He is more of a box-to-box type.  Let Amartey or Mendy grow as defensive midfielders and stop comparing them to Kante, who is world class. 

[CosbehFox]

Opinions of Mendy have been very harsh considering he's played 50 minutes of football against the best possession team in the country. His record in France says he will eventually adapt and be a success. 

[dhermon]

5 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

What's Mendy's injury situation?

Back on 17th same as schlupp 

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c13

[crazyleicester]

We need to start defending as a team again and we also need our attacking players to do more in the final third to keep the pressure away from our midfield.

 

This season has been so strange for a number of reasons because a lot of the things we were doing so well last season we seem to have forgotten how to do it this time around. Our ball retention has been woeful. I know Kasper isnt the best with his distribution but it has seemed worse this season. Then working from the front our attackers with the exception of Okazaki dont seem to be working as hard and our talented players from Gray at the start of the season to Albrighton and Mahrez seem to be losing it way quicker. So we now give the ball away more often and put more pressure on the midfield and defence and they are not coping yet. They all need to improve.

 

As for Mendy. I have seen quite a lot of him and he is certainly much better going forward than Kante. He is has some great passing ability especially long balls to wide areas and when we bought him I thought he would do a great job, especially if we can win the ball deep and now we have him and Drinky able to set Mahrez and Vardy away. Unfortunately the little bits Ive seen of him in a Leicester shirt stinks of a player almost in awe of where he is and he looked a couple of pounds away from being sharp.

 

Id like us to try a different formation for the Champs League match. Id like to see a 451 that turns into a 433 when we attack and would play both Amartey and Mendy if the later is fit.

 

GK - Kasper

RB - Simpson

LB - Chilwell (I know Fuchs has done very little wrong but I think its time to get a more forward thinking full-back in)

CB - Huth

CB - Wes

DMC - Mendy

MC- Drinky

MC - Amartey

MR - Mahrez

ML - Musa

CF- Vardy

 

I think we have too many strikers for this formation though and buying Slimani to me makes us too predictable and forces us into a 442. Im not even convinced that CR wanted Slimani listening to his interview the other day when we didnt know where he was after AFCON duty. I could be reading this all wrong but dont understand why we bought Musa and then hear CR talk about they can play together and then Slimani turns up. If we have to play both Vardy and Slimani as strikers then as a 442 we put too much pressure on the wide midfielders to defend and get over ran in midfield. We have to change things as Kante did the job for two people and we have to be realistic that we will keep getting over run in midfield and need Mahrez especially concentrating on the final third of the pitch and not like he does now where at times he is playing RB.

[thursday_next]

3 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

It's like we spent nearly two decades learning about disappointment, hope and how to cope with being a football supporter of LCFC and then had a season of dreams winning week in week out and now we have forgotten everything. If a player has a bad game we write them off - we've taken football heroin and now we are going to be in recovery for the rest of our lives.

 

Or, we're a bunch of East Midlands cynical bastards. When was the last time a player had a bad game and didn't get ripped to pieces on here, let alone on Bentley's Roof or in the pub? It was better when we were shit, and half way down the Championship table, then you could carve a player a new arse just for fun. Nowadays it seems to matter more, because we're high profile and get our shitness eagerly debated for a long time on MOTD. That's what hurts, along with falling down the stairs and getting your hand trapped in industrial machinery or a car door.

 

"What's the matter, my sweetness and light?"

 

"I can't get an erection because I'm worried about our midfield. Use your vibrator"

 

"Oh, that's all right then, I thought it was another woman. Maybe Mendy will come good"

 

"If you're planning to shag Mendy then for God's sake make sure he doesn't get injured"

 

  

[inckley fox]

Mendy may well be the answer. I doubt many of us have seen enough to make us believe that this is the case, but it might be.

 

There's no doubt that 4-4-2 will be tricky for this set of players without a CM who can get through a lot of work and ease pressure on our defence. Amartey did a good job against Swansea, but he's very young and as soon as the pace of the game stepped up a notch at Liverpool he was lost.

 

I'm not sure that we can comfortably play two in the middle because we lack a guy who can do the 'blood, sweat, toil and tears' stuff. Equally, I'm not convinced we can go to three. The three that worked in 2014/15 contained Cambiasso at his best and a fully-fit James. I've got no cause to be confident that Amartey or Mendy will be able to do such a good job in a three, or Andy King for that matter. Neither do we know how well Danny will adapt to a change of formation.

 

Something could slot into place, even if there is no reason now to believe it will. I just hope we're not struggling in the bottom six or seven at Xmas, desperately regretting that - when we had the greatest opportunity in our club's history to build a side which could consistently compete in the top 7 or 8 - we let go of our team-builder, failed to replace our key man and spent an unprecedented load of money on attackers we didn't particularly need.

 

Leicester have a great tradition of shooting themselves in the foot, and this would be up there with the best of them. Or, out of the blue, it could all go beautifully right all over again. Who knows? A good start would be getting half a dozen of our players fully fit and not tolerating the sort of casually unconcerned approach they seemed to have to the Liverpool game. With or without Kante, you won't win games like that.

[jim5000]

I thought Amartey would be the answer when he signed, but against Liverpool he barely touched the ball and when he did he did nothing with it.

 

I remember when he joined that the highlights videos showed him tackling players then driving 30-40 yard runs up the pitch before spraying it off to another player. He's looked nothing like that unfortunately :\

 

Something needs to happen in midfield though, Drinkwater is amazing but it's like he's playing as a solo midfielder now, he has to ping it long because he has no options around him

[WigstonWanderer]

Mendy looks rather portly to me. I hope it's all muscle.

[Monsell1976]

5 hours ago, Col city fan said:

The problem with this mate is that we are the current Champions of England. Should we really be fielding a player who was 'like a rabbit caught in headlights', away at Anfield? The opposite argument could be true...the experience could have scarred him and he'll pretty surely now be dropped.

I'm all for developing our younger players but it must be done in the right way and in the right games. See Ferguson for details.

We have left ourselves short in the central mid area, unless Mendy proves to be very good.

Probably shouldn't have played, but midfield options are a real problem, with Mendy injured.

In an ideal world, we should bring him in for the likes of of Liverpool away, etc to gain experience, not start, but start him against teams in the cup, lower premier league.

I like the kid, but he's been given little or no game time since coming, for obvious reason's, but think in time, he will do a job.

Without writing amartey off, I think for now, with the midfield options we have, Mendy looks more comfortable, when he's played, without setting the world on fire.