tickler28 Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 Admittedly we haven't seen loads of him yet but it's fair to say that Kante is playing within himself in the same role that Idrissa Gana Gueye plays for Everton. Just sat in front of the back four recycling play...not relied on to win the ball all the time and given freedom to follow play to the edge of the opposition box when appropriate is what we are missing. This allows Drinkwater to receive the ball and dictate play partnered by Mahrez in behind a loan striker and Musa/Schlupp/Kaputzska/Albrighton out wide. I think this can be changed to King instead of Mahrez and of course a second striker replacing a central midfielder if were chasing the game. Its working for Everton a treat and similarly to us they have 2 aging central defenders. Barry is a little bit like Drinkwater and maybe even Slimani instead of Vardy on occasions could work for headers from crosses. Thoughts?
tickler28 Posted 12 September 2016 Author Posted 12 September 2016 To add to this it would also stop Wes hoofing it forward with Mendy receiving the ball deep
tickler28 Posted 12 September 2016 Author Posted 12 September 2016 2 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Surely so Obi-Wan is our only hope? Was tempted to use this in the title but seriously 'help me Nampalys Mendy...you're our only hope'
brucey Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 Who knows what strategies Ranieri will even consider without Walsh's input?
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 Confused as it was Amartey about four days ago. the amount of things said about our sports science team you'd think they'd be able to organise a simple midi-chlorian test.
tickler28 Posted 12 September 2016 Author Posted 12 September 2016 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Confused as it was Amartey about four days ago. the amount of things said about our sports science team you'd think they'd be able to organise a simple midi-chlorian test. Amartey is not suited to that role as his distribution is not good enough...he could play in front of Mendy but not a holding midfielder at all...likely to lose us possession. Amartey is more like Matic or Barry .
Strokes Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 10 minutes ago, tickler28 said: Amartey is not suited to that role as his distribution is not good enough...he could play in front of Mendy but not a holding midfielder at all...likely to lose us possession. Amartey is more like Matic or Barry . Kantes distribution wasn't always great, we need to give players time to settle into roles. One bad game and they are written off, king, Amertey, Mendy will be next.
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 4 minutes ago, Strokes said: Kantes distribution wasn't always great, we need to give players time to settle into roles. One bad game and they are written off, king, Amertey, Mendy will be next. Kante is relative to the rest of his game, a terrible passer of the ball.
Guest Col city fan Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 I never thought Kante to be a bad passer of the ball. He was pretty incisive, kept it short and quick. Many counters were setup by Kante winning it and rapidly giving it.
smiley Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 Kante will be missed this season without a doubt but given time i believe both Mendy and Amartey will be fantastic players for us. Not many players arrive and preform to there best straight the way as Kante did, most need time and games to adapt.
Russell sprout Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 58 minutes ago, tickler28 said: Admittedly we haven't seen loads of him yet but it's fair to say that Kante is playing within himself in the same role that Idrissa Gana Gueye plays for Everton. Just sat in front of the back four recycling play...not relied on to win the ball all the time and given freedom to follow play to the edge of the opposition box when appropriate is what we are missing. This allows Drinkwater to receive the ball and dictate play partnered by Mahrez in behind a loan striker and Musa/Schlupp/Kaputzska/Albrighton out wide. I think this can be changed to King instead of Mahrez and of course a second striker replacing a central midfielder if were chasing the game. Its working for Everton a treat and similarly to us they have 2 aging central defenders. Barry is a little bit like Drinkwater and maybe even Slimani instead of Vardy on occasions could work for headers from crosses. Thoughts? I hope your right,but I don't think we've seen enough of Mandy to decide if he's what we're missing,imo he looks overweight and hasn't stood out in the games we've played, thats not a critism of him as such cuz as I said we haven't seen much of him,though his weight could be a problem
BenTheFox Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 14 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I never thought Kante to be a bad passer of the ball. He was pretty incisive, kept it short and quick. Many counters were setup by Kante winning it and rapidly giving it. Fully agree.
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 20 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I never thought Kante to be a bad passer of the ball. He was pretty incisive, kept it short and quick. Many counters were setup by Kante winning it and rapidly giving it. More to do with the winning it and the area he won it in than the giving it part. im not saying he is incapable of passing the ball he is a professional footballer, as original stated relatively speaking, he gives the ball away a lot more than a lot of players in his position, it's not a key part of his game. A lot of the balls he plays are not particularly difficult and the damage they do is more often or not setup by the fact he's won something he shouldn't of as opposed to any great passing ability.
Wymsey Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 Kante's only real weakness is shooting, just stabs at it and can go anywhere in the stand. He doesn't seem a leader as well as he rarely communicated with teammates at Swansea.
fuchsntf Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 1 hour ago, tickler28 said: Amartey is not suited to that role as his distribution is not good enough...he could play in front of Mendy but not a holding midfielder at all...likely to lose us possession. Amartey is more like Matic or Barry . Amartey is too young to say what he is and what we can and cannot do. To all of you coming out with what our new players are capable of. DD/Morgan/Simpson/Vardy etc you have all been wrong on their capabilities..L E A R N from it.!! DD, would of been pushed out of it, if management were as poor as the pundits on this forum, Vardy and Morgan, wouldnt of started last season. Amartey, Musa, Mendy and soon to carry our badge Slimani, it will take 4-5 months before we can Judge their worth to the team, whether they show pure magic or sheer dross, even a pik n mix of form And skills. Yes like the topic insinuates, we need not just Mendy and the other 3 but all the squad to help quell the obvious nervous stress eminating from this forum. These 4 need now our support and importantly our patience. We need Amartey ,Chilwell Hernandez, Gray to Come out Showing some positive form, they are the natural replacements. Then Musa, Mendy and Slimani, by Middle of October should be Showing why we invested in them. BUT they must be shown patience and supp o rt from the terraces,Show them the fairness from our terraces and within this forum. Of course, there is nothing wrong in expressing the failings or positives from the individual match days, even expressing your opinions on what in your opinions where we could improve. Its what a forum is about...There is however no logic in jizzing the individuals before they have even had some type of a decent run in the team. I deny anyones right of opinion before any of Our players have had a chance to show their bad, ugly, positive, brilliant, pathetic, fantastic side in a long stretch of games..Look at Kante, this time last year he was too small and weak(according to some) Look now at Sterling, young and now slowly starting to prove to us his potential, plus the Questions we had on albrighton and Mahrez. Yes Mahrez could be starting this season on Slow and Low burner, like kane last year. I reckon all of us the posos the neggies and watencees, are all aprehensiveon how its all Gonna pan out, worried that we might implode , anxious that our critics will have a field day.. But and again but, after picking up and munching the title by 10pts, Let us our own fans, we the foxes after our history, should hang back more so now on, imediate kneejerk negatives on All the Newbies, Whether from within or our new summer buys. Lets enjoy 1st being champions for awhile before weeling the axes of negative attitudes . Dont forget gnawing at many abone on any player is totally worthless, we cant change it We have what we have, So we want, we need, The permatations and individuals to click and work...........give it a chance..
Russell sprout Posted 12 September 2016 Posted 12 September 2016 40 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Kante's only real weakness is shooting, just stabs at it and can go anywhere in the stand. He doesn't seem a leader as well as he rarely communicated with teammates at Swansea. But I bet you wish we still had him
fuchsntf Posted 13 September 2016 Posted 13 September 2016 50 minutes ago, The_77 said: Everybody. Chill. Out. Wait until Winter, then it will really hot up. The only Chill we will experience on this forum, is our very own.. Chilwell
lgfualol Posted 13 September 2016 Posted 13 September 2016 If we can learn how to do 433 I'd like to see Mendy in front of the back 4 with Drinkwater and Kapustka (new signing bias) playing in front and Kappy getting forward. If only we signed Silva *cries into a pillow*
RastaDog Posted 13 September 2016 Posted 13 September 2016 8 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said: Kante is relative to the rest of his game, a terrible passer of the ball. And he couldn't shoot for toffee. Best off rid imho. (Btw, I'm not taking the piss MP, I'm agreeing with you) I do wish folk would stop this 'replacement for Kante' stuff. Only Kante is Kante - we won't find another. Move on, Our 'dilemma' is not to replace him but to find a way of playing that works for us again. Tbf, I do think the club did try to find a midfield signing (and probably someone that didn't get a mention too) - it's just that none of them came off for us. Maybe we'll have to reshape, maybe we'll make do until Jan, but either way we'll sort something out. Claudio will suss it.
Monsell1976 Posted 13 September 2016 Posted 13 September 2016 9 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said: Confused as it was Amartey about four days ago. the amount of things said about our sports science team you'd think they'd be able to organise a simple midi-chlorian test. Amartey was like a rabbit in headlights, he's a young kid, who is gaining experience in English football. I should imagine anfield being intimidating for a young lad, he will learn to deal with the big game, but your right, a bit early to right him off. I think he will do well this season, he might be inconsistent early on, but we must remember that's what young players do.
chili_con_carne Posted 13 September 2016 Posted 13 September 2016 In my opinion drinkwater should be playing deeper, more as a defensive midfielder, and Mendy to be the more attacking player.
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