Mendy is our best hope

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Thracian said:

 

You talk about this player and that coming through buggft I don't see it happening.ames I don't see pre-season as having been particularly beneficial either. Bit-part appearances between lots of travelling which, in itself, might have been a factor in all the injuries we've been getting is not ideal, especially when many first teamers were involved in the Euros. 

 

Big clubs are far more used to the kind of pre-season we've had and I do understand the marketing benefits. But I don't see it being the fastest way to develop players.

 

Saturday offered an opportunity for at least one of either Gray or Chilwell to get half-an-hour or so. But there's so many people needing match-time now you can't please everyone.     

 

Trouble is, by the time they do play, they'll be less than  their sharpest when, really, all our players should be close to their best. Instead there's no signs we're anywhere near. And Mendy as much,or more, than anyone else. 

 

    

In that case, we are fked, lets just give up on them...Save your money go down the pub..

You speak as we have a massive injury  list.

We have the squad of players we have, the summer tournament and Kante are history...finished

99.9% OF THE TEAM/SQUAD are still here, they are the ones that a couple of months ago

Won us the league.

I for one refuse to throw in the towel, and start tolling the bells of doom.You lot left in Leicester are

weird, strange scaremongers...Trying to over analyse the Situation (where there isnt one) to death after 4 Games.

 

According to many.....

We were crap last year and won the league, we were short in this and that position and won the league,

Forum experts telling why we couldnt c do this or that..we won the league!!!

Despite yours and many others negative prancing we won the league.

You can tell me has many times as you like...'I told you so' , but I no matter how it pans out,

I accept the moment, and now in  this  Never before experienced   period of the season, I will not

Listen to the negative   rantings of a few, I will sit back and enjoy 1st the Taste the feel Of my club being involved

in this incredible part of our history.

All the negative numpties, will be so busy seeking and foraging for things to criticise and show their football-manager skills,

they will all miss, the point of  'why'     they are set to miss the journey and ride of their lives.

OFF -field business is over, nothing to change ,its now to the business we do on the pitch, there will ups and downs, I will dream like last

season with no logical reason, that our ups Come out on top..We cant change it now, but we can  support those guys

Who go over the whitewash wearing our fox on their chest Without nagging before a ball is kicked in REAL anger.

 

 

 

[Master Fox]

Which is NO hope, because he's crap. 

 

Why we ended up with this oaf instead of Gueye is outrageous. 

[Pete Campbell]

I still think its Amartey.

[lgfualol]

17 minutes ago, Master Fox said:

Which is NO hope, because he's crap. 

 

Why we ended up with this oaf instead of Gueye is outrageous. 

Lmao

[filbertstreet]

pretty sure matty james has eaten kante hopefully he absorbed the little man's powers

[Thracian]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

In that case, we are fked, lets just give up on them...Save your money go down the pub..

You speak as we have a massive injury  list.

We have the squad of players we have, the summer tournament and Kante are history...finished

99.9% OF THE TEAM/SQUAD are still here, they are the ones that a couple of months ago

Won us the league.

I for one refuse to throw in the towel, and start tolling the bells of doom.You lot left in Leicester are

weird, strange scaremongers...Trying to over analyse the Situation (where there isnt one) to death after 4 Games.

 

According to many.....

We were crap last year and won the league, we were short in this and that position and won the league,

Forum experts telling why we couldnt c do this or that..we won the league!!!

Despite yours and many others negative prancing we won the league.

You can tell me has many times as you like...'I told you so' , but I no matter how it pans out,

I accept the moment, and now in  this  Never before experienced   period of the season, I will not

Listen to the negative   rantings of a few, I will sit back and enjoy 1st the Taste the feel Of my club being involved

in this incredible part of our history.

All the negative numpties, will be so busy seeking and foraging for things to criticise and show their football-manager skills,

they will all miss, the point of  'why'     they are set to miss the journey and ride of their lives.

OFF -field business is over, nothing to change ,its now to the business we do on the pitch, there will ups and downs, I will dream like last

season with no logical reason, that our ups Come out on top..We cant change it now, but we can  support those guys

Who go over the whitewash wearing our fox on their chest Without nagging before a ball is kicked in REAL anger.

 

 

 

First, the title. It's not a matter of "giving up". When I saw us play in The Premiership last season it quickly became apparent that we had good balance, a special chemistry and were seriously difficult to beat. But it also became clear that we were benefitting from the good fortune of so many top teams being way below the standards they'd set at their best - including Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

That's not to say we were in any way "lucky", we won the title on merit and by a well-deserved distance. But it's wholly different this season fighting on several fronts with a squad that's not even nececessarily improved from anything I've seen and against opposition who seem to be considerably improved.

 

I can't recall ever being negative about last season once it started but really cannot believe that we let Kante go without having a sound replacement lined up. I'd sooner have taken a  court case. 

 

But, worse than that is we've made ourselves vulnerable in other places to by simply not considering the balance of our signings even if some of them do turn our to be good value which I'm not yet convinced of, although I've not seen anything of Slimani so there's nothing to pass judgement on.

 

My main concern is that we've got an abundance of attackes and very little defensive cover or even any defensive options at right-back that offer a contribution going forward.

 

Even at left back the highly promising Chilwell has not yet convinced me he's a "clean sheet" defender, more that he would have flourished under a genuinely attack-minded manager like Klopp.

 

Klopp seems to understand the benefits of attacking as a unit and using constant movement and fast-passing to dismantle defences.

 

We, instead, don't seem to be evolving, quite the contrary, we were singularly reliant Saturday on one entirely predicatble ploy relating to one play from the array of attackers on our books. If you can explain that, go ahead, but it didn't make sense to me. We ended up like amateurs lost in No Man's Land.                 

[m4DD0gg]

my mate dave reckons we will struggle to get 40 points this year

[sm1]

Thracian's hit the nail on the head. We've got an unbalanced team due to some poor business in the transfer window. Why we didn't get a specialist RB and top class CM is beyond me. People talk about buying in January, but how many top class players will want to come to us if we're out of Europe and near the bottom of the prem. The summer was the time to improve the squad with top quality players in positions we were weak in. 

 

[m4DD0gg]

In a way it reminds of pimp my car. Got a shit loada bling done to parts of the team and through media exposure but no engine

[Thracian]

What with having to make so many changes to cope with all the football;-

The likelihood of being more disrupted by injuries this season than last:-

The loss of Kante without an even-nearly-adequate replacement:-

Noticably stronger opposition:-

The loss of players to the ACN in January:-

The potential psychological blow of sustaining performance levels without the adrenalin-fueled benefit of all the praise we won last season:-

And my belief that some of our squad are simply incapable of improving on what they did last season, makes survival in The Premiership by no means a certainty.

And yet this season is massively important. 

Not because of our Champions League appearance and opportunity to grow our international "brand".

But because a third season in The Premiership would give us a brilliant chance of cementing our membership.

And we'll sure need to focus to achieve that.   

 

     

[Sionnach gorm]

i said it at the beginning of the season that we needed 4-5 games before we got up to snuff.  I think all this doom and gloom is greatly premature. It seems clear to me that we are rebuilding this team by the purchases at hand.  I like our manager did not expect a repeat of last year.  We need to build slowly into a powerful team.  I like our purchases and once they become settled in you will not see this game again.  Bloody hell, I just can't believe we get so discouraged so easily.

[Thracian]

We've already lost two of those four games and drawn another. Our team looks a shadow of the one that started last season and is still not settled, if it ever will be.

 

.Any hope of retaining the title has already gone.  

 

Our challenges this season are to survive in The Premiership, to adapt to European football and to perhaps pinch a Cup success.  

[sylofox]

The best chance we have of turning this around would be.

Kasper cf swap the midfield around with the defence and Vardy in goal.

[biggs]

16 minutes ago, Thracian said:

We've already lost two of those five games and drawn another. Our team looks a shadow of the one that started last season and is still not settled, if it ever will be.

 

.Any hope of retaining the title has already gone.  

 

Our challenges this season are to survive in The Premiership, to adapt to European football and to perhaps pinch a Cup success.  

Rubbish, we are no way this poor a team. You and others are taking 4 league games out of perspective.

[Nick]

18 minutes ago, Thracian said:

We've already lost two of those five games and drawn another. Our team looks a shadow of the one that started last season and is still not settled, if it ever will be.

 

.Any hope of retaining the title has already gone.  

 

Our challenges this season are to survive in The Premiership, to adapt to European football and to perhaps pinch a Cup success.  

That's true, I guess - decent post. Not that we stood much of a chance of ever retaining the title this season considering the pedigree of players and managers brought in to the division with war chests and the fact that a couple of massive clubs sole focus will be the premiership due to no CL football.

 

Ive not given up hope of a top six finish though, keep the faith and step up Mr Slimani....

[crazyleicester]

There are way too many knee-jerk and negative reactions in here sometimes.

 

We are 4 games in, won one, drew one with the draw coming against one of the so called big clubs and have messed up twice away from home, once on the season opener which is always a tricky fixture and the other a battering against a club playing their first home game of the season and another side going for the prem title.

 

To read some of the crap in here at times it makes you wonder if we are not 20 games in and ten points adrift of the side above us.

 

I cant believe anyone could write off either Amartey or Mendy yet as they havent had a chance to contribute over a decent period of time. Lets judge them when they have had a chance and if they prove to be not at the standard expected Im sure we will try to develop them or get someone else in instead.

[Thracian]

1 hour ago, biggs said:

Rubbish, we are no way this poor a team. You and others are taking 4 league games out of perspective.

 

1 hour ago, crazyleicester said:

There are way too many knee-jerk and negative reactions in here sometimes.

 

We are 4 games in, won one, drew one with the draw coming against one of the so called big clubs and have messed up twice away from home, once on the season opener which is always a tricky fixture and the other a battering against a club playing their first home game of the season and another side going for the prem title.

 

To read some of the crap in here at times it makes you wonder if we are not 20 games in and ten points adrift of the side above us.

 

I cant believe anyone could write off either Amartey or Mendy yet as they havent had a chance to contribute over a decent period of time. Lets judge them when they have had a chance and if they prove to be not at the standard expected Im sure we will try to develop them or get someone else in instead.

 

Did I say we were a poor team? No. 

So far we've taken four points from a possible 12 and, if we continue at that rate we'll be in a relegation fight without question.

Most of us knew we'd be up against it this season.

You mistake negativity for realism if you wish but when I looked at last seasons team and bench I saw strength, pace, a determined sense of purpose and organisation.

Now i don't see anything special.

I thought we'd use the close season to expand our capabilities and strengthen our depth.

Instead we've sacrificed nearly half the pace that made us dangerous, have dug ourselves a great big hole in our central midfield and become more predictable than the chimes of Big Ben.

You sound as if one small Elastoplast will fix our problems but it won't.

And neither will Mendy or Amartey, even at their best.

We need a lot more than that.

But first, and above all, we need our attitude back. 

 

 

 

                  

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

7 hours ago, Abrasive fox said:

 

He had a better game than Drinkwater, who just gave it away the whole time. Amartey was man of the match against Swansea so lets not write him off after one game.....

 

Also all this we should have signed Gueye, based on what? a performance against a poor sunderland team playing in a 3 man midfield? He was good yes, but then so was Amartey against Swansea, and Mendy is meant to be a better player too but clearly isn't fit.

Re: Amartey had a better game....

 

0 tackles 0 interceptions for Amartey was the stat I read. 

 

Cant quite verify that but he was terrible - at least Drinkwater had the ball at some point

[foxinsocks]

We have a few things to sort out following the test by liverpool.... these are short term issues.  Medium term we have to have a pool of midfield players who can bring various talents.... just as we require a tange of strikers.   Mendy and anarty will both be important. ... if mendys injury means amarty gets game time then that will help him id the issues he needs to work on. We will all have to be patient while mendy and amarty sort their games out. ... and hopefully james comes back.   In the long term we will always have a group including established players and emerging ones.  This is natural.

I think that in the meantime the coaches can sort out some of our issues with tactical instructions

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

7 hours ago, Abrasive fox said:

 

He had a better game than Drinkwater, who just gave it away the whole time. Amartey was man of the match against Swansea so lets not write him off after one game.....

 

Also all this we should have signed Gueye, based on what? a performance against a poor sunderland team playing in a 3 man midfield? He was good yes, but then so was Amartey against Swansea, and Mendy is meant to be a better player too but clearly isn't fit.

We should have bought Gueye because his stats in tackles and interceptions were second only to Kante last season. 

 

That's why Everton bought him. 

 

Baffling that we did not given we know this type of profiling got us Kante. 

[foxinsocks]

29 minutes ago, Thracian said:

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Instead we've sacrificed nearly half the pace that made us dangerous, have dug ourselves a great big hole in our central midfield and become more predictable than the chimes of Big Ben.

 

Agree.... these things we can address while the new guys settle. Wingers are going to have to work harder to support defence and attack roles.  On receiving and controlling the ball they have to head forward not pass back and squander momentum.  This is the attitute and edge we need to get back.  The cms cant hold hands... one goes one stays etc etc

[Thracian]

29 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

We have a few things to sort out following the test by liverpool.... these are short term issues.  Medium term we have to have a pool of midfield players who can bring various talents.... just as we require a tange of strikers.   Mendy and anarty will both be important. ... if mendys injury means amarty gets game time then that will help him id the issues he needs to work on. We will all have to be patient while mendy and amarty sort their games out. ... and hopefully james comes back.   In the long term we will always have a group including established players and emerging ones.  This is natural.

I think that in the meantime the coaches can sort out some of our issues with tactical instructions

 

Please don't mention our coaching. Some of the basics we were lacking against Liverpool were embarrassing.

  

I'll just mention one thing out of many - movement.

 

Even at throw ins there was no space made and no movement, let alone in open play.

 

Klopp had runners zipping off in all directions and some with the specific purpose of making space for others to run into. 

 

Sometimes he even had two players on the same pass line with one acting as a decoy.

 

Without elaborating that's the technical level of coaching I expect at Premiership level but we showed none of it - not even a basic willingness to pass and move. 

 

It was like watching the closing stages of a pass-the-parcel round, with Leicester so desperate to be rid of the ball we hit it anywhere and too often nowhere.

 

[foxinsocks]

Yes when i said the coaches can sort things out i should have said MUST.... yrs liverpool were well drilled. ... we MUST be similarly prepared.

This was a bigger problem than the personalities

[Stevosevic]

We used to get off to starts like this under MON all the time - I bet people weren't saying we would be relegated then. In fact we would regularly take a thrashing from the top sides - we were still a top half team.

 

In the first 6 games we play 3 of the likely top 6 - that's a tough start.

 

Judge us in November

[Thracian]

38 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Agree.... these things we can address while the new guys settle. Wingers are going to have to work harder to support defence and attack roles.  On receiving and controlling the ball they have to head forward not pass back and squander momentum.  This is the attitute and edge we need to get back.  The cms cant hold hands... one goes one stays etc etc

 

We've talked of this many times on here. I tend to favour fast, attacking full-backs and interlinking wingers. Ronaldo/Neville for instance or, more modestly Fuchs/Schlupp.

 

However, the trend I see is for attackers to aid the defence while rarely do the defenders support the attack. 

 

It's a major problem for our team if we're ever going to compete against the best because we have virtually no forward momentum or threat from the back.other than at corners or, occasionally from free-kicks  .  

 

It often means there's too much space between players, leading to hit-and-hope passes, limited passing options for recipients because of too few players in support, too few potential scorers in the team and more exhaustive work for the forwards than is necessary if the team passes and supports each other closely.